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[GandiBaat]

Hi,

I was thinking about moving to Australia and was wondering if it was a good idea after reading the news about the difficulty of finding a job and the current housing crisis there. I got my canadian PR but I am hesitating to move back into the country because of the rent and I couldnt find a job. Now I can move to Australia (with immigration visa) but since the rent is also as expensive and job market is not particularly active ( for network admin / support role ).

I would be grateful for your advice and experience on finding jobs and living in Australia, especially in regional areas such as Newcastle, Goldcoast, Adelaide, Perth. I am really concerned about the rent and whether I will be able to find any accommodation, if I decide to move to Australia. I am also wondering if it is easy to find any part-time jobs there to, at least cover the rent.

Thanks for reading this.

I have not really held any job in Australia so my opinion about it will be a speculation at best. Sydney and Melborne are very expensive places to live. You may want to live there only if you got some good job. Network admin / support roles are often found in IT departments of large enterprises like banks etc. But this space is becoming consolidated and smaller than what it was.

I will suggest to get a job before you end up in Australia. The other way round is simply too .... expensive. I made my resume in Australian format and got myself an australian number through call forwarding. You may consider getting a similar service or may be an australian mobile sim. The recruiters in Australian typically do not call foreign numbers. This helps to break down that wall.

Secondly, most jobs in Australia are not advertised. So having someone vouch for you in a company or something goes way long. It helps you to get infront of hiring people. Most likely you will be looking for jobs in traditional companies with a IT department so it becomes doubly important.

Lastly, a lot of companies are just offering contract jobs for the kind of roles you want. Many are advertised but most are not. During my time in 2010s, Perth was like a backwater of a city. It was cheap(er) and had some jobs. I do not know what is its situation now. But give it try. It will be easier to live into than Sydney and Melbourne.

 

[GandiBaat]

Is this for real? I don't try to open/read worthless news articles, but can anyone validate if it is?

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/17nlpxc

Yes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720755331947741286

It has a video and in Punjabi he is saying that sikhs will blow up airports in India on 19th Nov when world cup in India closes. He is cautioning Sikhs not to fly Air India on 19th Nov or they will do same what Parmar did. Apparently, this flies as freedom of expression in Canada and USA. No pun intended.

Here what he is saying literally, I quote :

"We are asking the Sikh Pant (Community) not to fly Air India.
On 19 Nov, Air India due to global blockade, Air India will not be allowed to fly.
People of Sikh Pant do not travel on Air India on 19th Nov, it is a mortal danger.
And this is our warning and order to Indian government that on 19th Nov IGI Airport will be closed.
This 19th Nov is the same date on which world "terror" cup (I think he means world cricket cup)'s final is there."

And then he goes to say all the usual Khalistani stuff. Like how "India tried to genocide Sikhs, we will free Punjab, How our marteyars blah blah blah. We will blah blah blah India"

In the end he reiterate the same warning to Sikhs on 19th Nov as mortal danger. His words "Jannu da Khatra ho sagda hei". "It could be a thread to life".

I am sure @abhiram.kumar will even rationalise and justify this as a wrong doing of India and Indians and will consider this as a constructive criticism of India because otherwise one is a Modi loving nationalist.

All the idiots in Surrey and Brampton voted in the unofficial referendum are supporting these kinds.


Now here is the biggest Kicker.............

AIR INDIA IS NOT A BLOODY INDIAN GOVERNMENT'S AIRLINE! ITS A BLOODY PRIVATE AIRLINES OWNED BY PARSIS BUSINESSMEN IN INDIA!

The owners of Air India are actually long arrived refugees in India who arrived in India seeking refuge from Iran. They have since successfully started a major businesses conglomerate and now own this Airlines (again).

This is no different than threatening Delta Air for whatever someone's issue are with US government.

 

[Hopeful007]

Lol Aus people trying to move to Canada, Canada folks trying to move to Australia. It's the same shit. If you can't hustle in one, you won't do much better in the other

I don't think Aus people are trying to move to Canada, which is becoming a sh*t hole. Aus is better in every way except for the proximity to the US.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Yes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720755331947741286

It has a video and in Punjabi he is saying that sikhs will blow up airports in India on 19th Nov when world cup in India closes. He is cautioning Sikhs not to fly Air India on 19th Nov or they will do same what Parmar did. Apparently, this flies as freedom of expression in Canada and USA. No pun intended.

Here what he is saying literally, I quote :



And then he goes to say all the usual Khalistani stuff. Like how "India tried to genocide Sikhs, we will free Punjab, How our marteyars blah blah blah. We will blah blah blah India"

I am sure @abhiram.kumar will even rationalise and justify this as a wrong doing of India and Indians and will consider this as a constructive criticism of India because otherwise one is a Modi loving nationalist.

These clowns think that this will make them look stronger or influential. But they just armed Jai Shankar with another thing to talk about: https://twitter.com/search?q="Air India"&src=trend_click&vertical=trends. This closes Najjar's case forever as no one will now want to be a part of it. JT is as usual isolated again. Also, will put most Canadians who supported Najjar in the other side of the bucket as they would also want to stay away from terrorists.

They have been doing it for a while without getting significant media attention, but with Najjar this won't be able to fly under the radar this time: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/delhi-airport-terror-threat-khalistan-commando-force-air-india-flights-london-1737969-2020-11-04

The biggest issue with geo-politically influenced refugee programs is that you end up with child murderers, former PM assassins, Nazis, terrorists, etc - not too hard to see how that could make a country look so bad in the long run.

He made a terrorist threat. Let's see if Canada or America does what they are usually expected to do in the case of an active terrorist threat. We should make a petition on our part to tackle these terrorists at home, I'll write to my MP.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Yes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720755331947741286

It has a video and in Punjabi he is saying that sikhs will blow up airports in India on 19th Nov when world cup in India closes. He is cautioning Sikhs not to fly Air India on 19th Nov or they will do same what Parmar did. Apparently, this flies as freedom of expression in Canada and USA. No pun intended.

Here what he is saying literally, I quote :



And then he goes to say all the usual Khalistani stuff. Like how "India tried to genocide Sikhs, we will free Punjab, How our marteyars blah blah blah. We will blah blah blah India"

In the end he reiterate the same warning to Sikhs on 19th Nov as mortal danger. His words "Jannu da Khatra ho sagda hei". "It could be a thread to life".

I am sure @abhiram.kumar will even rationalise and justify this as a wrong doing of India and Indians and will consider this as a constructive criticism of India because otherwise one is a Modi loving nationalist.

All the idiots in Surrey and Brampton voted in the unofficial referendum are supporting these kinds.


Now here is the biggest Kicker.............

AIR INDIA IS NOT A BLOODY INDIAN GOVERNMENT'S AIRLINE! ITS A BLOODY PRIVATE AIRLINES OWNED BY PARSIS BUSINESSMEN IN INDIA!

The owners of Air India are actually long arrived refugees in India who arrived in India seeking refuge from Iran. They have since successfully started a major businesses conglomerate and now own this Airlines (again).

This is no different than threatening Delta Air for whatever someone's issue are with US government.

He is just warning passengers regarding the curry that is going to get served on that flight. The meat is being sourced from Pakistan

#boycottPakistanimeat

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

I don't think Aus people are trying to move to Canada, which is becoming a sh*t hole. Aus is better in every way except for the proximity to the US.

I mean @GandiBaat and @lord Tony are 2 examples

Check out this guys youtube

Australia is same as Canada in many ways.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

I just pray this won't turn the 3-year citizenship requirement back to 4-year especially should the Conservatives win on 2025

I hope they make it like 6-8 years to get citizenship. That is how they can prevent 'onward immgration'. After I get my passport in 2025 that is

 

[GandiBaat]

I mean @GandiBaat and @lord Tony are 2 examples

I never moved to Australia for long time, just visited there. I did choose Canada over Australia because opportunities for me were limited there and my friend could not find a career opportunity there.

 

[GandiBaat]

He is just warning passengers regarding the curry that is going to get served on that flight. The meat is being sourced from Pakistan

Dont go around warning a certain community about hot ovens because that will indeed make you a pariah. I guess some folks are more equal.

 

[GandiBaat]

We should make a petition on our part to tackle these terrorists at home, I'll write to my MP.

I will too. Ask them to ban his entry in province of BC as he is disturbing peace here and brining terrorism. Hope he gets banned from visiting Surrey.

 

[Hopeful007]

I mean @GandiBaat and @lord Tony are 2 examples

Check out this guys youtube

Australia is same as Canada in many ways.

Gandi is a special case. Also, IT people with decent skills can go anywhere. So his case does not apply to that of an average Joe/Jill. Tony could not get a PR, no offense to him lol.

Things I remember. Drugs, homelessness are much worse in Canada. I searched, I could not find anything like what you see in Vancouver etc in Aus. Salaries are 10k lower in Canada per year after conversion. Better weather and life expectancy is longer in Aus. Cost of living used to be lower in Canada, no longer. Their PR is harder to get in Aus, I would say it's more secure, easier to kick out temporary residents. I kind of worry that when shit hits the fan, we will have huge crime rate in Canada, too many people are let in without much security checks.

Update. Looked at the channel and comments. People agree Aus is better, but very hard to immigrate permanently. My impression.

 

[GandiBaat]

You know folks, some may think I am over reacting to Pannun's stupidity or threat, for me it hits pretty close home. My parents always fly Air India because it is the only flight that is direct one between India and Vancouver. My mom has slight mobility issue due to old age and changing flights in Germany or Japan is hard for her. So she prefers a direct flight where she does not have an issue of changing one while dad drag all the cabin luggage.

 

[peter38wan]

I have not really held any job in Australia so my opinion about it will be a speculation at best. Sydney and Melborne are very expensive places to live. You may want to live there only if you got some good job. Network admin / support roles are often found in IT departments of large enterprises like banks etc. But this space is becoming consolidated and smaller than what it was.

I will suggest to get a job before you end up in Australia. The other way round is simply too .... expensive. I made my resume in Australian format and got myself an australian number through call forwarding. You may consider getting a similar service or may be an australian mobile sim. The recruiters in Australian typically do not call foreign numbers. This helps to break down that wall.

Secondly, most jobs in Australia are not advertised. So having someone vouch for you in a company or something goes way long. It helps you to get infront of hiring people. Most likely you will be looking for jobs in traditional companies with a IT department so it becomes doubly important.

Lastly, a lot of companies are just offering contract jobs for the kind of roles you want. Many are advertised but most are not. During my time in 2010s, Perth was like a backwater of a city. It was cheap(er) and had some jobs. I do not know what is its situation now. But give it try. It will be easier to live into than Sydney and Melbourne.

Thank you so much for your detailed reply. Does having physical presence in Australia increase the chance of getting a job? And I know that it costs a lot each time to move to another country, so thats why I am carefully contemplating each options. I dont mind having a contract job so long as I get one, but sadly it is very hard to even get an interview. Most job openings are located in Sydney and Melbourne but my visa conditions only allow me to stay and work in regional area (everywhere except sydney, melborune and brisbane). Also the immigration invitation quota has been cut back this year and the competition for immigration visa is high.

 

[peter38wan]

In both countries finding the initial job will be a challenge which is where networking and currying favors from old pals, bosses etc...matters. Just for the rent if you move the smaller cities again finding a job in such smaller places will be a challenge. If you are not married you could try PGs in bigger cities also where you have a network to favor you getting a job is a better bet. Also, see GoldCoast and Perth rents are high, remember that as well.

Thanks for your reply. I dont have any connections in Australia. I might consider studying some vocational courses to change my career.

 

[GandiBaat]

Does having physical presence in Australia increase the chance of getting a job?

It does or atleast it used to be the case in 2010s. Pandemic might have changed that dynamics.

I was rejected by an Australian company called "Kwickie" because I was not in Australia and my wife's visa situation was not sorted out. They felt it as a risk. Though I dodged a bullet there. The company was a major fraud and closed soon. It was among the bigger fraud in Australia back then.