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Yeah, I am planning on moving to Toronto and was making calculations. My current salary is 50k and it would be barely possible to survive if I don’t have a car for car payments/insurance. To not have a pay cut, I need to earn an extra 10k just for the extra 500-600 in rent. It sucks though because in pharmaceutical, they don’t pay that much more in Toronto, compared to other Ontario cities.
Just FYI. You will have hard time affording a place at 60K. During the background check, many landlords can and will refuse you because you don't make enough. You can make a deal with them by signing a lease on their terms (more upfront rent, deposits, etc.) but those landlords are greedy and some terms would be borderline illegal.
 
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Oh yeah, I totally agree - like I said a couple of posts above - it's going to be rough for a while but eventually it will lead to a more normal situation and plenty of great opportunities (not just in the property market). But I'm under no illusion that the near future is going to be a pretty bumpy ride.
**sigh** Like my coach used to say: "God save us from having this type of fun"
 
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Housing prices will never go down until it stops being treated as an only up investment. Politicians all own multiple houses and love that prices go up at the expense of others, so they come into power to protect that status quo. Liberal party of Ontario being a pure nimby group trying to reduce housing supply from being built.
Correct. There is also a thing about private equity firms and foreign capitals. Both of those things will not allow prices to go down. UNLESS, the government will do something about it. And they won't
 

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Which results in increase in rent. Which will worsen already crappy situation.
Unfortunately, there are only crappy and crappier solutions now. 1980s was really painful for a while... We are in a similar situation.
 
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Unfortunately, there are only crappy and crappier solutions now. 1980s was really painful for a while... We are in a similar situation.
Yup. I really hope whoever moves to Canada will not make stupid financial decisions like buying a new car or something similar. Met a guy in 2017 who was a new PR. He bought a new Range Rover with insane APR.
 

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Housing prices will never go down until it stops being treated as an only up investment. Politicians all own multiple houses and love that prices go up at the expense of others, so they come into power to protect that status quo. Liberal party of Ontario being a pure nimby group trying to reduce housing supply from being built.
Here is the trouble. A vast majority of Canada's population is OLD AF and OWNs houses.. multiple of them. We are talking primary, vacation and investment homes. And these folks will hate if prices of houses will go down. And ..... they vote.

So..... True-dough will do whatever it takes to get their votes.

The only thing that can screw his plans over is massive inflation and food price crisis. Nothing makes you more unpopular than "Single Mom can not afford to feed babies". And thats why BoC is raising rates to keep gas and hence food prices in check. Housing prices correction is a side effect. No real policies are underway to check rising housing prices.
 
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Here is the trouble. A vast majority of Canada's population is OLD AF and OWNs houses.. multiple of them. We are talking primary, vacation and investment homes. And these folks will hate if prices of houses will go down. And ..... they vote.

So..... True-dough will do whatever it takes to get their votes.

The only thing that can screw his plans over is massive inflation and food price crisis. Nothing makes you more unpopular than "Single Mom can not afford to feed babies". And thats why BoC is raising rates to keep gas and hence food prices in check. Housing prices correction is a side effect. No real policies are underway to check rising housing prices.
That's a fantastic answer. Pretty much what new immigrants need to know about the current real estate market in Canada (at least, in Toronto and Vancouver).

Prices won't go down. But when/if they will, oh boy. It will be painful.
 

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That's a fantastic answer. Pretty much what new immigrants need to know about the current real estate market in Canada (at least, in Toronto and Vancouver).

Prices won't go down. But when/if they will, oh boy. It will be painful.
Rents will be up.
Food and Gas prices will be brought under control.
House prices will correct but likely not crash. Two components of housing crash is lack of demand and excess supply. Right now, supply is very very constrained in major cities of canada except for Alberta. So that gives owners a lot of holding power in form of rents. It sucks to be renter right now! I know I am one. Trying to escape rentals. A mortgage taken right now will get easier with time.
 

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Yup. I really hope whoever moves to Canada will not make stupid financial decisions like buying a new car or something similar. Met a guy in 2017 who was a new PR. He bought a new Range Rover with insane APR.
One reason people live in big cities is their public transport infra....
If you are living in small cities, then I guess buying an pre-owned cheap toyota or honda is not a bad idea.
 
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Rents will be up.
Food and Gas prices will be brought under control.
House prices will correct but likely not crash. Two components of housing crash is lack of demand and excess supply. Right now, supply is very very constrained in major cities of canada except for Alberta. So that gives owners a lot of holding power in form of rents. It sucks to be renter right now! I know I am one. Trying to escape rentals. A mortgage taken right now will get easier with time.
Agree about the rents.

Disagree about food and gas prices. They will keep climbing and since they are both interconnected, one will cause an increase for other. Whether it slows down or not depends a lot on Russia vs. Ukraine situation. Don't forget; OPEC is on Russia side.

Housing prices won't crash for a while. However, they will sooner or later. However, it will require the government to step in and limit foreign investment and private equity contributions. Cannot see that happening with liberals.
 
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One reason people live in big cities is their public transport infra....
If you are living in small cities, then I guess buying an pre-owned cheap toyota or honda is not a bad idea.
Big cities have good public infra WITHIN the city. Toronto has good public transport; Markham doesn't. Waterloo is shit. Good thing about Waterloo is that Uber won't cost more than 20-30 bucks.