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Tavensektor

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Hi All,
In my SINP application, I claimed 10 years of experience and got the nomination. However, my current job is 7 years old and I don't need to add my previous jobs in the Express entry work history section because it already maxed out my experience points and selection factors. So, can I omit it as it will increase the number of documents to submit and the possibility of more ADR.
 

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Regardless, as I have mentioned before, 500K is not sustainable rate without scaling up everything else. I can see that Canadian government is not scaling up or reworking other parts of the process; just keep pumping those numbers up. That won't end well. Before inviting 500K people: 1) Need enough medical professionals (need to rework the licensing); 2) Need to have affordable housing (ban private equality and massive foreign investments).
500 K is a reaction from birthrate and death rate and retirement or leaving the work force data. It will be there TILL this weird situation of high death rate and low birth rate and great resignation will remain.

Immigration and mass immigration in general are NEVER the default state of any country. They are reactions to the situation at home. Any country with decent population replacement and growth are very conservative about immigration. Take Japan or example. Japan was very very very conservative till the reality of workforce reduction dawned upon them. Now even they have a skilled immigration program. And they do not really have points for knowledge of japanese : https://www.isa.go.jp/en/publications/materials/newimmiact_3_system_index.html.
 
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The conversations are getting very interesting here.

We all know that 500k people will not be sustainable in any freaking way possible, but hey immigration will push the economy right ? Man, it is clear as day that with the current way immigration is handled, at least economic is to make students defacto buy PR. That is also one of the reasons for too many worthless universities around the country. Remember 700k students. They might start inviting based on NOC in 2023, but I really don't see how that would help short term since the effects will be seen probably in 2024-2026.

What is more interesting is seeing @GandiBaat leaning conservative one step at a time. The quote of Pierre Poilivre "Mom not being able to afford baby milk and mixing it with water" seems you are following him closely. The guy is hitting Justin and liberals very hard.

About the birth rates. I don't really see how they will change in the future. Personally, I don't see myself having more than 2 kids there no matter what and most probably end up having just one. Talking as an immigrant here. I wouldn't think a lot of immigrants, especially the economic category, will just land in Canada and start mass reproducing. A declining birth rate is not a new phenemon in the developped countries already. Nothing surprising there.
 
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The conversations are getting very interesting here.

We all know that 500k people will not be sustainable in any freaking way possible, but hey immigration will push the economy right ? Man, it is clear as day that with the current way immigration is handled, at least economic is to make students defacto buy PR. That is also one of the reasons for too many worthless universities around the country. Remember 700k students. They might start inviting based on NOC in 2023, but I really don't see how that would help short term since the effects will be seen probably in 2024-2026.

What is more interesting is seeing @GandiBaat leaning conservative one step at a time. The quote of Pierre Poilivre "Mom not being able to afford baby milk and mixing it with water" seems you are following him closely. The guy is hitting Justin and liberals very hard.

About the birth rates. I don't really see how they will change in the future. Personally, I don't see myself having more than 2 kids there no matter what and most probably end up having just one. Talking as an immigrant here. I wouldn't think a lot of immigrants, especially the economic category, will just land in Canada and start mass reproducing. A declining birth rate is not a new phenemon in the developped countries already. Nothing surprising there.
I am having 0 kids. At least, in Canada. It's way too expensive. If I want to have kids, I would move either back to Russia, or somewhere else.

Correct about students. Canada is not hiding that fact anymore. It's getting harder to be accepted into a strong public university (UWaterloo, McGill, UBC, UToronto) but majority of students won't aim for those schools anymore. This is one of the reasons why government is not doing anything about bogus universities and as a matter of fact, the latest unicorn is focused on exactly that; bring more students into the country.

P.S.: I hope conservatives will win. However, I doubt that it will be much better. Ford is conservative. Not like he is fantastic at his job.
 

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Rents will be up.
Food and Gas prices will be brought under control.
House prices will correct but likely not crash. Two components of housing crash is lack of demand and excess supply. Right now, supply is very very constrained in major cities of canada except for Alberta. So that gives owners a lot of holding power in form of rents. It sucks to be renter right now! I know I am one. Trying to escape rentals. A mortgage taken right now will get easier with time.
In Windsor there are older bungalows with 2-3B for less than 200k. Only problem is the city sucks lol. But if you don’t mind that and the place checks out okay, it’s a good spot to gain equity.
 

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One reason people live in big cities is their public transport infra....
If you are living in small cities, then I guess buying an pre-owned cheap toyota or honda is not a bad idea.
Any okayish 10 year old Honda/Toyota are over 10k so if you don’t have that money available, it’s better to buy new because the rates they are offering in older car dealers are ridiculous.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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Are you using the profession with the toughest licensing process to support your argument? When you say that 500K immigrants are needed to replace those doctors/nurses, are you taking in consideration how many of them WILL ACTUALLY become doctors and nurses in Canada? I don't think that many will. For every other profession, I can partially agree; the partially is due to the fact that Canadian market just doesn't pay enough. For many, Canada is a temporary stop before they head down the south for some major salary hike.

Regardless, as I have mentioned before, 500K is not sustainable rate without scaling up everything else. I can see that Canadian government is not scaling up or reworking other parts of the process; just keep pumping those numbers up. That won't end well. Before inviting 500K people: 1) Need enough medical professionals (need to rework the licensing); 2) Need to have affordable housing (ban private equality and massive foreign investments).
Hire them from uk. Apparently they pay almost min wage over there
 

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About the birth rates. I don't really see how they will change in the future. Personally, I don't see myself having more than 2 kids there no matter what and most probably end up having just one. Talking as an immigrant here. I wouldn't think a lot of immigrants, especially the economic category, will just land in Canada and start mass reproducing. A declining birth rate is not a new phenemon in the developped countries already. Nothing surprising there.
The trouble is many people here are NOT even having two kids or delaying children to early to mid 40s. Immigrants typically either come with their kids or have kids. Canada's fertility rate is a mess at 1.40 kids per female. Your two kids will be over and above that number. So will be for many other folks.
 
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GandiBaat

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We all know that 500k people will not be sustainable in any freaking way possible, but hey immigration will push the economy right ?
Canada's long term plan is to grow to 100 million by 2100. For that it will need a 1.2% annual growth rate. That can only happen with 400K+ immigrants a year if Canada only adds 60K or so per year by itself. Given that majority of population is old, it will see increase in deaths going forward. Baby boom of 40s-50s will be depression of heads by 2030-40. So 500K presently is NOT really a unrealistic number.
 

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What is more interesting is seeing @GandiBaat leaning conservative one step at a time. The quote of Pierre Poilivre "Mom not being able to afford baby milk and mixing it with water" seems you are following him closely. The guy is hitting Justin and liberals very hard.
Trust me, I did not know this example from any political debate. I have decided to stay out of popularity based politics of this country for the time being. I still follow policies but I stay out of "politics".
 
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Canada's long term plan is to grow to 100 million by 2100. For that it will need a 1.2% annual growth rate. That can only happen with 400K+ immigrants a year if Canada only adds 60K or so per year by itself. Given that majority of population is old, it will see increase in deaths going forward. Baby boom of 40s-50s will be depression of heads by 2030-40. So 500K presently is NOT really a unrealistic number.
It’s an unrealistic number for the current Canada.
 

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It’s an unrealistic number for the current Canada.
If you want 100M by 2100, you need this kind of number. More so if you are seeing accelarated deaths and suppressed birth rates.

Canada has that goal.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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More people is good for existing homeowners, business owners and the elite. For those that aren't... well tough luck... you'll be competing with the immigrants fore the 600 sq ft 1 bedroom
 

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Oh boy. Canadians are not happy.
On immigration, majority of Canadians are supportive of these levels.

Here is a survey from 2022 : https://www.environicsinstitute.org/docs/default-source/project-documents/focus-canada---fall-2022---immigration-refugees/focus-canada-fall-2022---canadian-public-opinion-about-immigration-refugees---final-report.pdf?sfvrsn=b31e22c9_2

69% disagree that level is too high.

Environics is a Toronto based research firm established in 1970 collecting this survey since 1976. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environics