Why Canada while Australia is easier?

[Pippin]

A +1 to Abhijeet for such a strong comment (and to sweeten your lemonade!)

 

[dbss]

Hiteshdand, having Canadian and Australian residencies, I can say that you really need to brush up your knowledge about Australia. Little knowlege is a dangerous thing. Do you know the strength of an Australian passport ?. All the countries you have mentioned can be travelled on an Aussie passport without a visa. I don't think a 14 hr flight to US can really end the options of job exploration and business.

Canadian passport also has the same value and the same does for the US passport.

 

[donutbox]

Unfortunately, after reading through all the comments, we are still nowhere closer to knowing any specific details about the Australia's "Skilled Worker" process.

I dug the following info. from the web, hopefully someone who is familiar with Australia and it's visa process will be able to comment further in detail:

If you are interested in the Points Tested skilled migration you must use SkillSelect to submit an Expression of Interest for a skilled visa. You are able to submit an Expression of Interest from anywhere in the world.
See: SkillSelect




The benefits of SkillSelect

SkillSelect is a major change to how Australia manages its skilled migration program.

SkillSelect helps to ensure the skilled migration program is based on the economic needs of Australia. It will support the Australian Government in managing who can apply for skilled migration, when they can apply and in what numbers. As a result, the Department of Immigration and Citizenship expects to significantly reduce the time taken to process a visa application.

SkillSelect will also help address regional skill shortages. SkillSelect allows intending migrants to indicate if they are willing to live and work in regional Australia. This will be of particular benefit to employers experiencing regional skill shortages and state and territory governments attempting to settle migrants in regional Australia.


How SkillSelect works

SkillSelect is an online service that enables skilled workers and business people interested in migrating to Australia to record their details to be considered for a skilled visa through an Expression of Interest (EOI).

Intending migrants can then be found and nominated for skilled visas by Australian employers or state and territory governments, or they may be invited by the Australian Government to lodge a visa application.

From 1 July 2012, all intending migrants interested in the points based skilled migration or business investment and innovation visa programs will be required to submit an EOI and receive an invitation in order to lodge a visa application.





***After taking a look at the various visas available, the Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa seems to be Australia's equivalent to Canada's FSW visa, here is some more info. on

Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa

>> This points-based visa is for skilled workers who are not sponsored by an employer, a state or territory, or a family member.
>> A visa holder can live and work permanently anywhere in Australia.
>> Certain family members can be included in the application.



There are also other visa types available at the SkillSelect link.

 

[donutbox]

Visa programs in SkillSelect (for Australia)

From 1 July 2012, if you are interested in the following visas, you will need to submit an EOI and receive an invitation before you can apply for a visa:

• Subclass 189 Skilled – Independent (Permanent)
• Subclass 190 Skilled – Nominated (Permanent)
• Subclass 489 Skilled – Regional Nominated or Sponsored (Provisional)
• Subclass 132 Business Talent (Permanent)
• Subclass 188 Business Innovation and Investment (Provisional)


You can also express interest in the following visa programs on your EOI to be contacted by an employer.


• Subclass 186 – Employer Nomination Scheme (ENS)
• Subclass 187 – Regional Sponsored Scheme (RSMS)
• Subclass 457 – Temporary Business (Long Stay)

You can express interest in a range of skilled migration visas in one EOI.

 

[abhijeet9k]

Yes u are absolutely right with the EOI & Skill Select.... But your occupation still needs to be on the SOL for submitting an EOI.... And I was in Australia all this time where Employers were briefed to give preference for Local employment first...Any employer going through Skill Select has a very long process to follow...they need to satisfy immigration office regarding non-availability of local talent for any given position on SOL ... tough call for prospective immigrants...My Brother in law though got state sponsorship last year in 3 months with PR only because his occupation was on State SOL...

 

[donutbox]

Yes u are absolutely right with the EOI & Skill Select.... But your occupation still needs to be on the SOL for submitting an EOI.... And I was in Australia all this time where Employers were briefed to give preference for Local employment first...Any employer going through Skill Select has a very long process to follow...they need to satisfy immigration office regarding non-availability of local talent for any given position on SOL ... tough call for prospective immigrants...My Brother in law though got state sponsorship last year in 3 months with PR only because his occupation was on State SOL...

Skilled Occupation List (SOL)

The current SOL (schedule 1) – applies to all new Points based skilled migration applications, including applicants eligible for transitional arrangements if they prefer to use it. It is also used by Temporary Graduate (subclass 485) visa applicants in the Graduate Work stream.
See: Skilled Occupation List (SOL) – Schedule 1 ( 37KB PDF file)





Assessing Authorities for Skilled Occupations

Applicants who require a skills assessment as part of their visa application must contact a relevant assessing authority directly to obtain a skills assessment, before they lodge their visa application.

The assessing authority will provide all necessary applications forms and associated information relating to the assessment. There will be a charge by the assessing authorities for the assessment.
See: Assessing Authorities

 

[harry_aussie]

I believe recent immigrants are better positioned in Australia as compared to Canada. I personally didn't find Canadian public offices as efficient as their Australian counterparts.

 

[myluckyprincess]

based on your profile details and your posts here, would you consider going back to australia? i know my queries could be considered too personal but i was really wondering why an australian national (is this correct?) would apply under FSW1...

I believe recent immigrants are better positioned in Australia as compared to Canada. I personally didn't find Canadian public offices as efficient as their Australian counterparts.

 

[myluckyprincess]

thanks for sharing this, donutbox. +1 for you. i checked their point system. i didn't even get 50. ;D i could say it is harder for me to apply to au PR based on my educational background and work experience.

Unfortunately, after reading through all the comments, we are still nowhere closer to knowing any specific details about the Australia's "Skilled Worker" process.

I dug the following info. from the web, hopefully someone who is familiar with Australia and it's visa process will be able to comment further in detail:

If you are interested in the Points Tested skilled migration you must use SkillSelect to submit an Expression of Interest for a skilled visa. You are able to submit an Expression of Interest from anywhere in the world.
See: SkillSelect


...

***After taking a look at the various visas available, the Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa seems to be Australia's equivalent to Canada's FSW visa, here is some more info. on

Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa

>> This points-based visa is for skilled workers who are not sponsored by an employer, a state or territory, or a family member.
>> A visa holder can live and work permanently anywhere in Australia.
>> Certain family members can be included in the application.



There are also other visa types available at the SkillSelect link.

 

[donutbox]

thanks for sharing this, donutbox. +1 for you. i checked their point system. i didn't even get 50. ;D i could say it is harder for me to apply to au PR based on my educational background and work experience.

Points test table - Subclass 189 Skilled – Independent (Permanent)

You must score at least 60 points (the pass mark) to be eligible to apply for a Skilled Migration visa (subclasses 189, 190 and 489).


The points indeed seem difficult to get....I got exactly 60.



Looking at the variety of visa available though, there are more options to submit an EOI for one of the other visa categories (unlike Canada, where there is practically only FSW):

• Subclass 189 Skilled – Independent (Permanent)
• Subclass 190 Skilled – Nominated (Permanent)
• Subclass 489 Skilled – Regional Nominated or Sponsored (Provisional)
• Subclass 132 Business Talent (Permanent)
• Subclass 188 Business Innovation and Investment (Provisional)
• Subclass 186 – Employer Nomination Scheme (ENS)
• Subclass 187 – Regional Sponsored Scheme (RSMS)
• Subclass 457 – Temporary Business (Long Stay)

 

[harry_aussie]

based on your profile details and your posts here, would you consider going back to australia? i know my queries could be considered too personal but i was really wondering why an australian national (is this correct?) would apply under FSW1...

Please feel free to ask questions, I will try my best to answer them. I'm already back to Australia and did all this to help my wife. She was on a student visa in Canada and paying hefty fee, so i applied for both of us and "voila!"almost nothing to pay. I'm an Indian national having Permanent Residency in Australia and Canada.

 

[myluckyprincess]

that's good to know, an immigrant to both countries. which nation would you recommend to foreign workers like me to apply to for immigration if for example i only have 2-3 years of work experience? application processing wise and work environment wise?

Please feel free to ask questions, I will try my best to answer them. I'm already back to Australia and did all this to help my wife. She was on a student visa in Canada and paying hefty fee, so i applied for both of us and "voila!"almost nothing to pay. I'm an Indian national having Permanent Residency in Australia and Canada.

 

[abhijeet9k]

New SOL for Australia released today applicable from 1st July....... http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/skilled-occupation-list.htm

 

[Trick]

OK DEAR. MAYBE I AM WRONG ABOUT AUSTRALIA.

So snakes and reptiles also travel with you on the same passport or they have another passport.One of the most racists countries in the world unlike Canada(might have some but not up to the level of Australia).

 

[myluckyprincess]

what made you say that aussies are racists? some people say emiratis (UAE) are also ones of the most racists. are australians worse than emiratis? please comment if they have bad experiences them.

So snakes and reptiles also travel with you on the same passport or they have another passport.One of the most racists countries in the world unlike Canada(might have some but not up to the level of Australia).

thanks for sharing, abhijeet9k.

New SOL for Australia released today applicable from 1st July....... http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/skilled-occupation-list.htm