When is 5th draw ????

[Aust-Canada]

680! So 80 life skill point. That is poor

I'd have to agree. I would of thought that if the cut off was to drop under 700 then it would have to drop below 600. Anything in the range of 600 - 700 would mean an applicant has a very low life skill points...

 

[Sulafa_78]

Another update email from CIC, the profile is exactly the same nothing changed!!! so maybe a final review before the 5th draw.

let's wish for the best

 

[AndreasChen]

Another update email from CIC, the profile is exactly the same nothing changed!!! so maybe a final review before the 5th draw.

let's wish for the best

What's your score?

 

[aaro27]

I'd have to agree. I would of thought that if the cut off was to drop under 700 then it would have to drop below 600. Anything in the range of 600 - 700 would mean an applicant has a very low life skill points...

true...i mean in that case people without LMIA or pnp are way better

 

[Lammawitch]

Nothing is wrong with having LMIA/PNP, but there are people on OWP and PGWP who holds full-time jobs who have and is currently contributing to the economy. Some of these ppl earn two to three time more than some of the persons with LMIA, however, their jobs are not considered arranged employment by CIC, so don't go mouthing off about why shouldn't person with LMIA/PNP be considered first.

BUT, with all due respect, it's not about earnings. It's about the reality of what and who is necessary/required on the Canadian job market.

Ask yourself this: if your work permit expired tomorrow, would your employer be able to replace you? (Hint: perhaps with another PGWP holder?)

If the answer to the above question is no, then I see no reason why your employer would not be actively seeking to apply for and obtain an LMIA to retain you and support your PR application.

 

[buckobob]

If somebody is able to find job that pays salary...that means the job is required by the economy. LMIA is different thing, it is used to prevent deliberate low wage payment by employers and safeguard the interest of Canadians. The point of LMIA is correct, but the procedure of getting is so tedious that it burdens the HR of an organization particularly large one just impossible. So even if an employer wants getting LMIA is hard to obtain.

 

[mf4361]

@Lammawitch It's not only meeting LMIA requirements set by the government (Its not easy on its own), it's the paperworks and liabilities it involves are so intense that HR departments don't want to go through on top of their normal everyday duties. Companies like open work permit holders because they don't need LMIA. One worker may have warrant for LMIA, but s/he never got one because HR won't do it.

LMIA set out to prevent businesses exploiting foreign workers for lower pays and less benefits than locals (sometimes down right unethical). It should not have been a hurdle to force businesses to hire Canadians.

 

[Lammawitch]

@ Lammawitch It's not only meeting LMIA requirements set by the government (Its not easy on its own), it's the paperworks and liabilities it involves are so intense that HR departments don't want to go through on top of their normal everyday duties. Companies like open work permit holders because they don't need LMIA. One worker may have warrant for LMIA, but s/he never got one because HR won't do it.

LMIA set out to prevent businesses exploiting foreign workers for lower pays and less benefits than locals (sometimes down right unethical). It should not have been a hurdle to force businesses to hire Canadians.

So, am I to extrapolate from your comment that a company which NEEDS to fill a job vacancy, but is unwilling to go though the LMIA procedure, can fill said job vacancy (probably multiple times over) with citizens, PRs, OWP/PGWP etc holders? If so, I rest my case.

 

[faizal3788]

draw might be today? lets see after 5 and half hour..

 

[PedDoc]

draw might be today? lets see after 5 and half hour..

What makes you think so

 

[faizal3788]

What makes you think so

jus an guess....

 

[PedDoc]

Hope it comes true

 

[mf4361]

So, am I to extrapolate from your comment that a company which NEEDS to fill a job vacancy, but is unwilling to go though the LMIA procedure, can fill said job vacancy (probably multiple times over) with citizens, PRs, OWP/PGWP etc holders? If so, I rest my case.

Not sure if I understand you right.
Yes of course the company CAN replace the existing PGWP employee when it expires (obviously s/he has to quit and stop working by the time WP expires, no other option) with another PGWP or Canadian. But the turnover cost for the company to rehire and retrain another person is large. So as a company, almost in any case, retaining the existing employee is more preferred. Now they can't do that anymore.

One step back, the PGWP wins the position over other job candidates is a prove that the company needs him/her more than any other available Canadian. Now, because they know PGWPs getting PR are rare and s/he is bound to leave Canada after 2-3 years, the company is forced to hire less-preferred Canadians. Is that fair to Canadian businesses?

 

[mrwait]

Hope it comes true

Just dont predict anything for heaven sake guys...nothing is going to come true. Its a trick ....honestly they dont need immigrants and this system is brought out just to slow down immigration process. Look at...all in the pool qualifies to apply as per the previous system..now that all looking forward to the draw date etc....stop this smart game ....

 

[sy_123]

My score is only 83. I don't have LMIA/PNP. I applied under CEC in EE

Will i get ITA from cic?

please assume and let me know

thank you