What are the do's and dont's for MODERN INLAND COMMON-LAW sponsorship applications(NOV2018)?

[NHLNFL]

There are a host of factors in play during the immigration process. One big factor is the person reviewing a file. The bureaucrat wields a whole lot of power.

When you apply for Restoration, it does not have to be for the same status you held previously, i.e. a person who was a worker can apply for Restoration as a worker, student or visitor, provided they qualify for that status at the time of Restoration.

In this situation, many people apply just for Restoration as a worker with the PR app. You would not be applying to restore your PGWP; you would be applying to restore your legal status as a worker based on the inland PR app.

The Restoration app is not different from the "application to change status". IMM5710, the OWP form, has the option to apply for Restoration on it.

No one knows why some are approved and some aren't.

It all makes sense. So ,canuck, either way I applied for more than what I needed to, technically. When I submit the OWP app with the PR, I am not missing any documents. They will be provided with all the documents they would need in any combination.

The day after I got refusal letter, I applied with 5710 which I was told the wrong form and will automatically be denied because you cannot extend/renew/obtain a new OWP from a 3-year post-grad work permit. The restoration form IMM5708 is different. When applying to restore you even have to show proof of financial support because you're not allowed to work anymore so you must show all that, as if you were at the point of entry with a one-way ticket. I understand it is not black and white. I am not trying to undermine your information, I just ask many questions!

Fees are paid and applications will be in. They will refund me whichever does not apply less the processing fee unless they do not even need to process one of the work permit-related applications. It is hard for me to explain because I have gotten SOOO many answers online with people claiming experience and getting different opinions. Regardless, nothing is guaranteed. I will explain everything in my supporting document letter in both applications. The officer will get all of the information he needs. I believe it will come down to him believing whether or not I will leave when if I am supposed to. But with my background history in Canada, there is no sign/flags showing I am uncooperative. Canuck, in another thread a few years ago you said American Citizens are treated differently (for better or worse IDK) related to immigration.

Somewhere else people were saying officers do not care where you are from and they look at everything with fresh eyes(which doesn't make sense).

 

[canuck_in_uk]

The day after I got refusal letter, I applied with 5710 which I was told the wrong form and will automatically be denied because you cannot extend/renew/obtain a new OWP from a 3-year post-grad work permit. The restoration form IMM5708 is different. When applying to restore you even have to show proof of financial support because you're not allowed to work anymore so you must show all that, as if you were at the point of entry with a one-way ticket. I understand it is not black and white. I am not trying to undermine your information, I just ask many questions!

What have you applied for and when were you refused? When did your status actually expire and what date were you given for the 90 day period in which to apply for Restoration? Please provide a timeline.

It has nothing to do with the status that you previously held. IMM5710 was the wrong form because you did not have any grounds to apply as a worker at that time. You now have grounds because you are submitting an inland PR app that allows for people to be granted OWPs.

IMM5708 is not a Restoration form. It is the application to extend visitor status. It has the exact same purpose as IMM5710 except for visitors. And IMM5709 is the exact same except it is for student extensions. All 3 forms offer Restoration as an option.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Canuck, in another thread a few years ago you said American Citizens are treated differently (for better or worse IDK) related to immigration.

Without knowing what post you are referring to, I can guess that this was in reference to the burden of proof of a genuine relationship and the processing times. Americans are not a Marriage of Convenience risk, along with most other developed nations, so their burden of proof is less than those from less developed countries where MOCs are more common. For Americans, because of the level of information sharing between our countries, things like background/security checks are generally significantly faster. This results in outland American apps being processed faster than pretty much any other country.

 

[NHLNFL]

What have you applied for and when were you refused? When did your status actually expire and what date were you given for the 90 day period in which to apply for Restoration? Please provide a timeline.

It has nothing to do with the status that you previously held. IMM5710 was the wrong form because you did not have any grounds to apply as a worker at that time. You now have grounds because you are submitting an inland PR app that allows for people to be granted OWPs.

IMM5708 is not a Restoration form. It is the application to extend visitor status. It has the exact same purpose as IMM5710 except for visitors. And IMM5709 is the exact same except it is for student extensions. All 3 forms offer Restoration as an option.

I applied for BOWP because I thought I was eligible since I am awaiting ITA for express entry. I thought I did not realize the BOWP is ONLY when you have submitted your final application for PR. This was denied because I did not even qualify. I got the refusal for that in the middle of Nov. 2 weeks ago. In that refusal letter was reminder that my status expired and I cannot work or study and I am advised to apply for restoration.

You say I now have grounds to submit an OWP application because I am submitting with PR but I am currently out of status which puts the OWP up in the air? I am 14 days into my 90-day period. The restoration application was submitted almost 1.5weeks ago.

I have been told by another person that I can apply for ONLY the PR and then OWP when I receive a decision of the restoration. But that pushes my timeline to receive the permit even further back anyway.

 

[np08]

Thanks for clarifying, np08. Yes, put both the sponsor and principle applicant's names and dates of birth at the top of each additional page for the PR application . For the OWP though, I think you can just put the applicant's name.

You can use this same principle for the organizing folders/envelopes, too. Names and dates of birth clearly labeled on the outside. We also wrote something indicating what type of application the contents were for (something like "Spouse - Inland," don't quite remember).

I applied for BOWP because I thought I was eligible since I am awaiting ITA for express entry. I thought I did not realize the BOWP is ONLY when you have submitted your final application for PR. This was denied because I did not even qualify. I got the refusal for that in the middle of Nov. 2 weeks ago. In that refusal letter was reminder that my status expired and I cannot work or study and I am advised to apply for restoration.

You say I now have grounds to submit an OWP application because I am submitting with PR but I am currently out of status which puts the OWP up in the air? I am 14 days into my 90-day period. The restoration application was submitted almost 1.5weeks ago.

I have been told by another person that I can apply for ONLY the PR and then OWP when I receive a decision of the restoration. But that pushes my timeline to receive the permit even further back anyway.

Wait a minute. They told you, in your Nov 2 refusal, that they're reminding you that your status had already expired. And now, on Nov 29, you're two weeks into your 90 day restoration period? How is that possible? When did your status expire? The 90 day period to apply for restoration starts on the day you lose your status.

EDIT: I see it was in the middle of Nov, not Nov 2. My bad. Still, your status expired just two weeks ago?

 

[NHLNFL]

Wait a minute. They told you, in your Nov 2 refusal, that they're reminding you that your status had already expired. And now, on Nov 29, you're two weeks into your 90 day restoration period? How is that possible? When did your status expire? The 90 day period to apply for restoration starts on the day you lose your status.

I was just stating that in my refusal for BOWP letter they also said your status is now expired. Sorry not "reminded". In the mid-november my status expired with my refusal letter. I am just saying they did not only say "you do not qualify for BOWP" but also "now your status is expired, here is what you should do.."

I am not sure how that context really applies to our conversation. I have been out of status for 2 weeks. I applied for restoration(1 week after expiration of status). Now I am about to send in my sponsorship PR (2 weeks after expiration). I was told to submit my OWP app with my PR app and explain it all since my restoration is "being processed". That's it. The "." after Nov in my quote was finishing the sentence and not shortening the word "November".

 

[np08]

I was just stating that in my refusal for BOWP letter they also said your status is now expired. Sorry not "reminded". In the mid-november my status expired with my refusal letter. I am just saying they did not only say "you do not qualify for BOWP" but also "now your status is expired, here is what you should do.."

I am not sure how that context really applies to our conversation. I have been out of status for 2 weeks. I applied for restoration(1 week after expiration of status). Now I am about to send in my sponsorship PR (2 weeks after expiration). I was told to submit my OWP app with my PR app and explain it all since my restoration is "being processed". That's it. The "." after Nov in my quote was finishing the sentence and not shortening the word "November".

I see. No worries, just wanted to clarify as a) it seemed like they were reminding you that your status had expired at some previous time (which you clarified just now), b) I mistakenly thought you said Nov 2 so the two weeks made no sense and c) I wasn't sure if with your refusal they count status expiration from said refusal or from when your status actually expired according to whatever document granted you status in the first place (passport stamp, expiration of previous permits, etc).

Just wanted to make sure you (and anyone else reading) knows 90 days starts when the status expires.

 

[NHLNFL]

I see. No worries, just wanted to clarify as a) it seemed like they were reminding you that your status had expired at some previous time (which you clarified just now), b) I mistakenly thought you said Nov 2 so the two weeks made no sense and c) I wasn't sure if with your refusal they count status expiration from said refusal or from when your status actually expired according to whatever document granted you status in the first place (passport stamp, expiration of previous permits, etc).

Just wanted to make sure you (and anyone else reading) knows 90 days starts when the status expires.

Gotcha. Well really guys thanks for all of your input. I picked up some long 9 x 12 inch office envelopes to separate my sections. Since I am sending via UPS I will make sure to send this to the courier-specific address and they will have a packing envelope to stick my 3 sections into.

 

[NHLNFL]

I see. No worries, just wanted to clarify as a) it seemed like they were reminding you that your status had expired at some previous time (which you clarified just now), b) I mistakenly thought you said Nov 2 so the two weeks made no sense and c) I wasn't sure if with your refusal they count status expiration from said refusal or from when your status actually expired according to whatever document granted you status in the first place (passport stamp, expiration of previous permits, etc).

Just wanted to make sure you (and anyone else reading) knows 90 days starts when the status expires.

Hey thought I'd update. So I just got my approval through CIC portal for my visitor status. I have not yet received anything regarding my PR application but i sent it out Dec 9th.

Should I send another work permit application to arrive before the deadline now that I have my visitor status? Is it a risk if I think they haven't even gotten to my PR application and when they look at my OWP notes that I was awaiting restoration?

I hope this makes sense. I am fine paying the work permit fee again and sending a separate OWP application so it would be with a valid status at time of submission.

Also IF they refuse my inland PR, how would I know? Would they send it back to the address stated in the application? Email?

We had our mailboxes broken into early January but I am thinking they wouldn't have sent anything back anyway as they were processing late November applications. Thanks.