WARNING: INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS IN CANADA

[princedaku]

HELLO folks,

i started this forum to discuss further steps.
intenational students who have spent more than 30,000 $ to earn canadian degrees and diplona have been completely ignored by stupid candian immigration laws (express entry).

even after having a full time job which falls under NOC o,a,b no points have been allocated.

lets discuss here and take some steps to aware canadian gov, and future asipirants who wants to come to canada on student visa.
please share and discuss your valuable opinions.

thanks

 

[Hemi427]

HELLO folks,

i started this forum to discuss further steps.
intenational students who have spent more than 30,000 $ to earn canadian degrees and diplona have been completely ignored by stupid candian immigration laws (express entry).

even after having a full time job which falls under NOC o,a,b no points have been allocated.

lets discuss here and take some steps to aware canadian gov, and future asipirants who wants to come to canada on student visa.
please share and discuss your valuable opinions.

thanks

Is it fair to lash out on the Canadian government? They provided you with good education and never promised a permanent residency. I think it should be earned and not claimed.

 

[Auone]

Honestly, I feel for the students. Those $30k would have been much better spent if they had received their degrees from other developed countries. Like I said in another post, Canadian universities do not provide the kind of standards maintained by the universities across US, UK, Europe. Im sure many international students chose Canada because of PR, and they were lead into believing this by the Canadian universities, who attracted international students under the pre-text of easy road to PR.

 

[dobes]

I'm not in this situation, but know people who are, and I also believe it's a little unfair for those who are currently in or recently graduated from Canadian institutions. The people I know chose to spend $20,000 a year or more in tuition for a Canadian school, often at great sacrifice, in part because it also offered a path to permanent residence. US schools, which often rank higher globally, cost the same or more, but offer no reliable pathway to permanent residence.

If the current situation doesn't change, I would advise prospective foreign students to check into US or British schools, since the education is better and more recognized globally, and now the chances for permanent residence afterwards are evening out.

 

[digitalnavneet]

i don't really agree with you on this, as I believe many students can apply for PNP once they pass out, if they have 3 years of work permit. They will have enough time to get PNP and apply fro EE.

 

[tymix]

International students should study only in provinces with immigration streams for masters, PhD etc. and stay in that province after graduation to get a Provincial Nomination. You follow this rule, you'll never have a problem.

Do not go to Britain or UK to study

 

[Ivan.Galv]

Students came here to get a great education and they have got it. No bygones, nobody promised PR to students.
It is natural process when bad immigration rules have bad consequences for economy. Once these consequences are detected by government, they will grant more benefits to international students.
All students should do now, is to find a good work, if Canada cannot give it to them,. then USA, Australia, Germany or other good country can. The world needs the most talented people, therefore, do not worry; if you are a skilled professional with great education, then you will be on demand, no matter what CIC thinks about you.

Your education allows you to advance any leading country to the next level of wealth and technologies. Just use it where it is demanded.

 

[princedaku]

Is it fair to lash out on the Canadian government? They provided you with good education and never promised a permanent residency. I think it should be earned and not claimed.

pls take it in a positive way my answer.
i agree with you. it has to be earned but
why canadian misinters and politicians go out in the media and says we want to retain international graduates who have degrees and skills who can contributes in the canadian economy.
internatiomnal studenst work hard and pay same taxes as canadian but when it comes to earn some privlegae like permanent residency don;t you think it is fair to put them on side and attract immigrants from other countries who never been to canada and dont know canadian work culture and have no experience, rather than picking up those people who are well incorported in canadian enviorment.
think twice pls

 

[princedaku]

i don't really agree with you on this, as I believe many students can apply for PNP once they pass out, if they have 3 years of work permit. They will have enough time to get PNP and apply fro EE.

many students can apply not all. what about for those students who are graduated from a province which wants only students with master degree or phd.
another things many provinces have rejected pnp application because applicant was graduate from another province.
in this country it feels like neither province like each other. when it comes to immigratiom, obtaining a health card or job. etc. looks like canada dont have 10 province it has 10 different countries under one name so called Canada.

 

[princedaku]

Students came here to get a great education and they have got it. No bygones, nobody promised PR to students.
It is natural process when bad immigration rules have bad consequences for economy. Once these consequences are detected by government, they will grant more benefits to international students.
All students should do now, is to find a good work, if Canada cannot give it to them,. then USA, Australia, Germany or other good country can. The world needs the most talented people, therefore, do not worry; if you are a skilled professional with great education, then you will be on demand, no matter what CIC thinks about you.

Your education allows you to advance any leading country to the next level of wealth and technologies. Just use it where it is demanded.

very postive attitude.
thanks

 

[Jhenall]

I have applied to both Memorial University of Newfoundland (because of the tuition rate) and University of Manitoba to do my Masters.

I had planned to attend MUN and move to another province (such as Manitoba or Saskatchewan) after completing my studies and then applying under CEC or the PNP but based on discussions I have seen, it appears as if other provinces will not be in such a hurry to nominate you.

I need guidance on where to choose as I wish to go and apply for the student visa soon.

 

[princedaku]

I have applied to both Memorial University of Newfoundland (because of the tuition rate) and University of Manitoba to do my Masters.

I had planned to attend MUN and move to another province (such as Manitoba or Saskatchewan) after completing my studies and then applying under CEC or the PNP but based on discussions I have seen, it appears as if other provinces will not be in such a hurry to nominate you.

I need guidance on where to choose as I wish to go and apply for the student visa soon.

i want to share to my experiece with you. i came to ontario and studied for 2 years and paid 26000 $ in tuition and find out this province does not have pnp for international students except students with master or phd degrees. with such hard guidelines which is almost impossible to full fill.
i have been living in canada since 2010 and still struggling to get pr due to on going amendments in rules. finally i have to move another province in search of pnp.
my advice from my experience here would be choose carefully your province of destination. as i feel now each and every international students will rush to those province which is capable of providing pnp. moreover every province is setting up fixed number of pnp for international students and priority will given to those who studied in same province. so it would be hard for student graduating from another province and get pnp in different province.
rest also depends upon your qualification and past experience. if you are confident that you are capable of finding a high skilled job after your master and your employer is willing to support you and situation might be different.
i personally dont trust immigration rules which are just like canadian weather changes every fukin day. Canadian experience :'( class is the most ignorant class under express entry. none of immigration minister gives a shit about international students who have spent thousands of $$$ to earn degrees and yet ignored under current laws.
sorry for my words but that's how i feel after going through this :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

 

[kateg]

To be fair, they want Canadian jobs to go to Canadians.

You paid a bunch of money to get your degree. You got your degree.

With a LMIA, they have to prove that no qualified Canadians applied for the job. If that's the case, welcome - you're bringing in skills Canada needs. Without an LMIA (on something like a PGWP), you are taking jobs from Canadians. You're not welcome, unless you're the best of the best (high CRS score).

It used to be easier to come as a student, it's true. Under the old rules, they wanted a demonstration that would succeed. Having a PGWP (and finding a job) was enough. Now, they want a demonstration not just that you won't succeed, but that you aren't hurting someone else in the process.

 

[Omosexy]

International students...what a beautiful name!

 

[BankingExpressE]

To be fair, they want Canadian jobs to go to Canadians.

You paid a bunch of money to get your degree. You got your degree.

With a LMIA, they have to prove that no qualified Canadians applied for the job. If that's the case, welcome - you're bringing in skills Canada needs. Without an LMIA (on something like a PGWP), you are taking jobs from Canadians. You're not welcome, unless you're the best of the best (high CRS score).

It used to be easier to come as a student, it's true. Under the old rules, they wanted a demonstration that would succeed. Having a PGWP (and finding a job) was enough. Now, they want a demonstration not just that you won't succeed, but that you aren't hurting someone else in the process.

Well, currently even the best of the best are being screwed over by the new system. I also disagree with the whole "hurting someone else in the process argument". If a PGWP holder gets a job because of superior skills or qualifications, then the economy is better off having that person get the job in my opinion. The issue for a lot of PGWP holders working professional jobs is actually getting a LMIA. Sure, if you look at the basic qualifications to do the job (degree in a certain field for example) lots of Canadians qualify, however, that doesn't necessarily mean that they will do a better or similar job compared to the PGWP holder who got the job because of superior skills in the first place.