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Visit Visa for Mother in Law and Brother in Law (My wife pregnant)

shahzadpir

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Jun 12, 2014
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Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
25-06-2014
AOR Received.
PER (21-10-2014)
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
03-12-2014
Med's Done....
14-12-2014
Interview........
Waived (Alhamdulilah)
Passport Req..
29-12-2014
VISA ISSUED...
29-12-2014
LANDED..........
29-07-2015
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice/compassionate-entry-limited-release-from-quarantine.html

Just to add. A doctor’s note is not sufficient. Your doctor has to fill out the PHAC from and agree for the need of your wife’s care.
By the way, Naturgrl, I really appreciate your help as you have answers and to most of the questions and you provide not only answer but direction with detail links and guidelines. I truly appreciate your positive help to this forum and please keep up this good work. Stay blessed.
 

Naturgrl

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Yes, I just saw it, unbelievably horrific and complicated process now. And interestingly, it says the letter is valid only for 3 months. I don't understand do they not trust a doctors note alone so this process is required? Secondly, I don't see it related in any way with the time line of visa application because for my home country the processing time of visitor visa appears to be over 400 days now, which again is unbelievably long. I mean if someone is applying for visitor visa then why they again have to request for this travel for exemption letter, other wise why do we need to apply visitor visa at the first place. Really frustrating.
I agree it is a flawed process but it wasn’t intended to be permanent solution. PHAC is designed for compassionate and end of life care but many people are applying for it for normal pregnancies. In this case, your visas may not be processed any faster.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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I agree it is a flawed process but it wasn’t intended to be permanent solution. PHAC is designed for compassionate and end of life care but many people are applying for it for normal pregnancies. In this case, your visas may not be processed any faster.
There is actually no need to apply for PHAC and many doctors will refuse to fill out the form for a normal pregnancy. As long as you flag the application as travel exempt and do your biometrics it should be processed in a reasonable amount of time especially for the mother. The brother will have a harder time getting approved. They both need to apply separately in different accounts. A doctor's note is evaluated for the content not just the fact that is a medical note. Most doctors don't know anything about immigration and are willing to write a simple note saying that their patient would benefit from family support for any patient. That isn't really a medical necessity.
 
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Naturgrl

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There is actually no need to apply for PHAC and many doctors will refuse to fill out the form for a normal pregnancy. As long as you flag the application as travel exempt and do your biometrics it should be processed in a reasonable amount of time.
Agree. Many people are applying for PHAC for normal pregnancies thinking it bypasses the need for a visitor visa or biometrics. They receive an approved PHAC letter but still need biometrics and a visa.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Agree. Many people are applying for PHAC for normal pregnancies thinking it bypasses the need for a visitor visa or biometrics. They receive an approved PHAC letter but still need biometrics and a visa.
You could just apply for a TRV and likely get a better visa or a longer period of time with less conditions.
 

shahzadpir

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Jun 12, 2014
324
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124
Canada
Category........
Other
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
25-06-2014
AOR Received.
PER (21-10-2014)
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
03-12-2014
Med's Done....
14-12-2014
Interview........
Waived (Alhamdulilah)
Passport Req..
29-12-2014
VISA ISSUED...
29-12-2014
LANDED..........
29-07-2015
There is actually no need to apply for PHAC and many doctors will refuse to fill out the form for a normal pregnancy. As long as you flag the application as travel exempt and do your biometrics it should be processed in a reasonable amount of time especially for the mother. The brother will have a harder time getting approved. They both need to apply separately in different accounts. A doctor's note is evaluated for the content not just the fact that is a medical note. Most doctors don't know anything about immigration and are willing to write a simple note saying that their patient would benefit from family support for any patient. That isn't really a medical necessity.
The exemption letter PHAC would still be required to allow them to board the flight, without this letter they will not be allowed to board the flight despite of having valid travel visa. That's what my understanding is so far after researching and reading many posts so if we don't get this letter, then they will not allow neither immediate family member nor siblings, let me know if anyone think otherwise.
The process of PHAC is very tedious, the form that they are asking to get filled by doctor, I don't know and even think doctor will fill it, so not sure what to do.. :(
 

Naturgrl

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The exemption letter PHAC would still be required to allow them to board the flight, without this letter they will not be allowed to board the flight despite of having valid travel visa. That's what my understanding is so far after researching and reading many posts so if we don't get this letter, then they will not allow neither immediate family member nor siblings, let me know if anyone think otherwise.
The process of PHAC is very tedious, the form that they are asking to get filled by doctor, I don't know and even think doctor will fill it, so not sure what to do.. :(
If you are PR or a citizen, and your parents have a visitor visa then they don't need a PHAC or written authorization to travel. Your brother in law needs a visa and written authorization to travel. No PHAC required. People are applying for them thinking it skips the visa/biometrics process which in most cases it doesn't. Do your family members have biometrics because if from India, offices are close and you must travel outside the country for them.
 
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shahzadpir

Hero Member
Jun 12, 2014
324
37
124
Canada
Category........
Other
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
25-06-2014
AOR Received.
PER (21-10-2014)
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
03-12-2014
Med's Done....
14-12-2014
Interview........
Waived (Alhamdulilah)
Passport Req..
29-12-2014
VISA ISSUED...
29-12-2014
LANDED..........
29-07-2015
If you are PR or a citizen, and your parents have a visitor visa then they don't need a PHAC or written authorization to travel. Your brother in law needs a visa and written authorization to travel. No PHAC required. People are applying for them thinking it skips the visa/biometrics process which in most cases it doesn't. Do your family members have biometrics because if from India, offices are close and you must travel outside the country for them.
No, my in law's are from pakistan, and they do not have approved visitor visa as I need to apply for them. Now, you brought a good point about biometric, a friend of mine from india had to travel to dubai for biometric, now I am not sure what would be the situation in pakistan, I am not sure if biometric is open there or not. But good point, I will look into it, seems like things are further getting complicated if biometric is not open.
 

shahzadpir

Hero Member
Jun 12, 2014
324
37
124
Canada
Category........
Other
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2133
App. Filed.......
25-06-2014
AOR Received.
PER (21-10-2014)
IELTS Request
Submitted with application
Med's Request
03-12-2014
Med's Done....
14-12-2014
Interview........
Waived (Alhamdulilah)
Passport Req..
29-12-2014
VISA ISSUED...
29-12-2014
LANDED..........
29-07-2015
If you are PR or a citizen, and your parents have a visitor visa then they don't need a PHAC or written authorization to travel. Your brother in law needs a visa and written authorization to travel. No PHAC required. People are applying for them thinking it skips the visa/biometrics process which in most cases it doesn't. Do your family members have biometrics because if from India, offices are close and you must travel outside the country for them.
so just to be clear, if I am applying for my mother in law and father in law visitor visa, do I still need to get this PHAC form filled? If no, then once visa is approved, will they be allowed to board flight without exemption letter?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice/compassionate-entry-limited-release-from-quarantine.html
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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so just to be clear, if I am applying for my mother in law and father in law visitor visa, do I still need to get this PHAC form filled? If no, then once visa is approved, will they be allowed to board flight without exemption letter?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice/compassionate-entry-limited-release-from-quarantine.html
Yes parents of PRs and Canadian citizens are part of the travel exemptions. They will need to show proof that their child is a PR or citizen at the airport. The brother needs special authorization to travel. With a bank statement of 5k I think it will be very difficult for the brother
 

moosavi_69

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1. Same.
2. Doctor’s note is not a PHAC exemption. You have to apply. The exemption is for compassionate reasons and doesn’t necessarily speed up the process. Do your family members need biometrics.
3. Moving is not an issue.
Hi,
I have a very similar situation. I would like to apply for a temporary visa for my mother and brother. My brother is around 40 years old (so not dependent.) To be honest, I am a bit confused whether I need two separate applications (with different logins) or I can apply with the same account and application. Note that I am an international student. Thanks a lot for your help.
 

Naturgrl

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Hi,
I have a very similar situation. I would like to apply for my mother and brother. My brother is around 40 years old (so not dependent.) To be honest, I am a bit confused whether I need two separate applications (with different logins) or I can apply with the same account and application. Thanks a lot for your help.
Your mother and brother have separate accounts showing their own ties, funds, travel history etc.
 
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wisdom7

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Feb 7, 2014
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Hello,
Thanks for all your help on this post. Trying to resubmit the TRV Application for my mother in-law too for the same reason mentioned above. We are expecting our second baby next year January 2022. I am a Canadian Citizen and my wife is a Permanent Resident. We applied for mother in law since last year. She did her Biometrics in October 5th 2020. Since then, the online update has been on "In Process".
Now trying to submit a fresh application knowing application was submitted before September 7th 2021.

And I am just confused about the Application forms. I have completed the IRCC TRV form with lots of question and supporting document to uploads.
Does immidiate family member need to also completed Form #: - imm0006e-2020-10-09 - Application for authorization and statutory declaration for the purpose of entry into Canada for extended family member’s COVID-19 Emergency?,
I couldn't located that form for Immediate family member. My mother In-law is an immediate family member, because her daughter is the one inviting her.
Should I use form IMM006E-2020-10-09 - Application for Authorization and statutory declaration for extended family member for her as immediate family member? I am confused, Please I need clarification on this.

Secondly! Having done that;
A. Should I also complete TRV Application Form #: IMM5257e after completing IRCC form online?
Thanks for all the help.
Thanks,
Wisdom7