Victim of Marriage Fraud - Please Help

[zardoz]

Or, you could inform them that the conversation will be recorded as soon as you pick up the phone. Then it's up to them if they wish to continue the call or hang up. Most big companies record calls after informing the caller.

 

[mikeymyke]

Start every conversation with "This call may be monitored for quality assurance purposes"

 

[zardoz]

Start every conversation with "This call may be monitored for quality assurance purposes"

Indeed... However, in Canada it's not actually required to inform the other party in a conversation that you are involved in. See http://www.legaltree.ca/node/908 So, the call can be recorded.

 

[Kayaker]

Indeed... However, in Canada it's not actually required to inform the other party in a conversation that you are involved in. See http://www.legaltree.ca/node/908 So, the call can be recorded.

Although, doesn't that apply to cases where both parties are in Canada? I'm a journalist and the legal advice I got (in the U.S.) was to state that I am recording the phone call because some states in the U.S. allow you to record without informing them, while others don't, and if the other party on the line happens to be in a state (or country, I suppose) where it's not allowed, I would be recording them illegally.

But recording them is a good idea - and also a good idea to tell them you are recording them. That way, they will know that you are serious, that you are not going to negotiate. They will know you are prepared to fight in court - and they know that they don't have a case to win. They don't want to go to court, because they will lose. Their one hope is to scare you and make you do what they want!

Stay strong and good luck!

 

[Rob_TO]

Very first step here is simply to cancel the PR application. The last thing you want is it being approved and her getting COPR, and then coming to land in Canada as a PR. After that point you can't cancel, you are financially liable for her for 3 years.

See here how to cancel your sponsorship: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=732&t=14

By cancelling, you are complying with all Canadian rules and laws about sponsoring and absolutely nothing can be done against you legally by her or her family. It would be a crime if you continued with the "marriage of convenience" application as per your in-laws wishes, so they are actually the ones that want to break the law here.

 

[Kayaker]

I think he said he didn't submit an application for his "wife" yet. So right now his main problem is his in-laws, not CIC.

I guess he just wanted assurance that his "wife" and her family can't force him to sponsor her, or find some way to get into Canada regardless of his refusal to go along with the sham.

 

[Rob_TO]

I think he said he didn't submit an application for his "wife" yet. So right now his main problem is his in-laws, not CIC.

I guess he just wanted assurance that his "wife" and her family can't force him to sponsor her, or find some way to get into Canada regardless of his refusal to go along with the sham.

Ahh yes, in that case there really is no problem for the OP (except for going through the divorce process).

Also if the family keeps harassing him, I would recommend to tell them that you will report the fraudulent marriage to CIC yourself, and that the daughter tried to marry a Canadian only to get PR status. Should tell the family this will make it much more difficult for her to get PR (or even a TRV) in the future either through a new marriage or some other way.

 

[keesio]

Thank goodness the OP's wife showed her true cards before she landed as a PR. (though the condition 51 thing may have helped).

I'm not sure how the OP's wife's lawsuit would go anywhere. He didn't even file an application so there is no "misrepresentation" there. What could they possible sue over?

 

[Rob_TO]

What could they possible sue over?

Absolutely nothing. They are just desperate for her to get PR, and are trying to scare the OP into going along with their fraud.

As I said, it's the OP that should be reporting them to CIC, not the other way around.

 

[keesio]

Also if the family keeps harassing him, I would recommend to tell them that you will report the fraudulent marriage to CIC yourself, and that the daughter tried to marry a Canadian only to get PR status. Should tell the family this will make it much more difficult for her to get PR (or even a TRV) in the future either through a new marriage or some other way.

TO OP: Yes, do this! If they resort to threats, throw this at them. See how they like this! And don't give in to threats or attempts of reconciliation.

 

[Trust Him]

Thank you so much guys for your replies and keeping me positive!!!

You Rock!!!

 

[canadianwoman]

Ahh yes, in that case there really is no problem for the OP (except for going through the divorce process).

Also if the family keeps harassing him, I would recommend to tell them that you will report the fraudulent marriage to CIC yourself, and that the daughter tried to marry a Canadian only to get PR status. Should tell the family this will make it much more difficult for her to get PR (or even a TRV) in the future either through a new marriage or some other way.

I second this suggestion. Probably the family will just go looking for a new sponsor.

 

[Helpme11]

Hi Brother,

I am in more worst situation then you. My wife got visa at the same time my marraige breakdown. I inform CIC immidiately about it and they have requested to return landing paper. But luckily it was with me. Which I have returned it. But she has visa and she is trying to travel. Do you have any idea if I can do something. I am waiting for time of separation then I will apply for divorce. Can you please help me..........Please Thank you

 

[zardoz]

Hi Brother,

I am in more worst situation then you. My wife got visa at the same time my marraige breakdown. I inform CIC immidiately about it and they have requested to return landing paper. But luckily it was with me. Which I have returned it. But she has visa and she is trying to travel. Do you have any idea if I can do something. I am waiting for time of separation then I will apply for divorce. Can you please help me..........Please Thank you

If she is trying to travel with just the IM-1 visa and no COPR document, it's going to be a long trip to nowhere for her. Besides that, CIC is already aware of the situation, so she will be bounced.

 

[rhcohen2014]

Hi Brother,

I am in more worst situation then you. My wife got visa at the same time my marraige breakdown. I inform CIC immidiately about it and they have requested to return landing paper. But luckily it was with me. Which I have returned it. But she has visa and she is trying to travel. Do you have any idea if I can do something. I am waiting for time of separation then I will apply for divorce. Can you please help me..........Please Thank you

did she already "land" as a pr with the approval paper? or did you send the blank paper back before she had the chance to land?

if she landed, i'm pretty sure any visa she had before PR would be automatically cancelled. if she's currently traveling in canada on an expired visa, then she is going to run into problems at some point. once she leaves, she won't be allowed in if she hasn't officially landed and you returned her approval paper.