Very confused. Nairobi timeline 31 months!! Inland or Outland

[trapa101]

I have just seen on the cic website that the timeline for Nairobi has changed to 31 months!!!!! My wife and I wanted apply Outland but now I'm not too sure. I mean,31 months apart is just not going to happen.what do we do?????

 

[chelley]

what that 31 months is is the time in which 80% of the cases were processed... they used to separate this out into 30%, 50% and 80% thresholds, but i guess they found that people got too upset when their case didn't complete within the x% threshold that now they just set their expectations for the "worst" up front... reality is that the large majority of the cases get through in less than 30 months... i'd take a guess that the average timeline sits around 1/2 that at about 15m (JUST a guess tho!) ... when your case is straightforward and everyone is eligible, your proof sufficient and your application well organized, there's no reason to believe that your application would fall into longer processing times

you can only apply inland if your wife has a valid tourist visa or work permit that allows her into canada and she cannot leave while the processing is happening (12-18m) and cannot work (unless she has a work visa) until she gets first stage approval (9ish m i believe)... would save any separation at all...

hope that helps some..

 

[coldgirl]

if your wife is with you, i would suggest applying inland.

 

[canadianwoman]

The applicant has to be in Canada for an inland application. IF she is already in Canada, then an inland application is an option. If she is not in Canada now, the likelihood of getting a TRV is pretty slim.

Some people have gotten their PR visa much faster than the posted timelines for Nairobi. If your relationship has nothing unusual about it, and you submit a lot of proof that the relationship is real, the processing will probably be faster.

 

[trapa101]

Thanks guys for all the thoughts. Actually,my wife and I are both in Nairobi right now,she will be sponsoring me,she is a Canadian pr about to be a citizn. We have been together for 10 yrs now and married for about 6mnths. All the proof we need is there. We are young with no kids and I own a restaurant in Nairobi. Our plan was to have her leave and apply Outland frm Canada bt the 31 mnth timeline has got us worried. Now mthinking otherwise. I know that we shall have no issues with the app bt it's the separation that has just got us so down. We are seriously thinking of doing it inland. I doubt I will have an issue getting a visitor visa.

 

[chelley]

May or may not be relevant, but when did she become a PR?

Does she meet the residency requirements for citizenship? If she does not get citizenship (ie remains a PR for whatever reason), she will need to return to and remain in Canada while the sponsorship is processing... Short visits to you are okay, long ones are not... If she gets citizenship, she can remain with you out of Canada and apply...

If you can get a visitor visa, you can still come to Canada while an Outland application is processing... You will need to return to nairobi if an interview is required..

 

[canadianwoman]

You say you've been together for 10 years. Were you living with her for a year or more before she applied to get a PR visa to Canada?

If you can get a TRV to Canada, then Nairobi is one of the offices where applying inland instead is a good idea, as long as you don't mind having to stay in Canada for the length of processing.

 

[trapa101]

You say you've been together for 10 years. Were you living with her for a year or more before she applied to get a PR visa to Canada?
We lived together for 3yrs while I was in the u.s.btwn 2005 and 2008. One huge mistake we made was her not applying for citizenship before comming to the states. She landed in Canada in Jan of 2003. We started going out in 2001 while we were in school in Nairobi.
If you can get a TRV to Canada, then Nairobi is one of the offices where applying inland instead is a good idea, as long as you don't mind having to stay in Canada for the length of processing.

 

[trapa101]

May or may not be relevant, but when did she become a PR?
She became a pr in 2003.looking back we still wonder why waited so long to apply for citizenship. Anyway she applied in feb last year and it's "in process "
Does she meet the residency requirements for citizenship? If she does not get citizenship (ie remains a PR for whatever reason), she will need to return to and remain in Canada while the sponsorship is processing... Short visits to you are okay, long ones are not... If she gets citizenship, she can remain with you out of Canada and apply...

If you can get a visitor visa, you can still come to Canada while an Outland application is processing... You will need to return to nairobi if an interview is required..

 

[chelley]

Your timelines are somewhat contradictory... If you were in a common law relationship for 1 year prior to her getting pR, she will not be eligible to sponsor you since you were not declared as a common law partner on her original application..

If thats the case you will either have to misrepresent about the initial beginnings of your relationship (not recommended), or find another route of access to Canadian pr... Proving your relationship has been over 10 years going will very likely prove you are ineligible and could get her pR revoked for misrepresentation...

 

[canadianwoman]

So is this timeline correct?:
2001 and 2002: you two are going out together in Kenya, but not living together
2003, January: she moves to Canada and becomes a PR
2005 - 2008: you two live together in the USA
2010: you get married in Kenya

If that is correct, then you should have no problems applying inland (if you can get a TRV) or outland. But if you lived together for a year before she got her Canadian PR, and she did not declare you on her application, she won't be able to sponsor you now.
So be sure that you have evidence you were going out together, but not living together, in 2001 and 2002.

 

[chelley]

Ah I see now above .. Always hard for me to pick out when people type directly in quotes without highlighting

If what CW has wrote is correct, you should be okay, but you would def want to show proof of separate addresses just to cover all your basis... Demonstrating the relationship as more of an on/off thing prior to 2003 (if it was?) would be in your best interest...

 

[trapa101]

@Canadianwoman,you have nailed the timelines. That is pretty much how everything happened. When she moved to Canada her parents applied for her so I guess they sponsored her as she was I think 18 when they started the process.her dad filed as a skilled worker and sponsored the rest of them,that's how they ended up in Canada. With that in mind,I doubt that at the time I was mentioned n their application. Would that complicate anything ?

 

[canadianwoman]

No. It would complicate your application if you had been living with her before she got her PR, because if you had been living together 1. she would not have been eligible to be sponsored (maybe), and 2. she would not be able to sponsor you now. Someone who applies to immigrate to Canada, or is included as a dependent on the application of another, must declare their spouse or common-law partner. If they don't, they can't sponsor them later.
However, you weren't living with her before she got her PR, so this does not concern your case.

Since she was only 18 when she left, and presumably living with her parents, the visa officer will most likely believe you were not living together, though do make sure you include your addresses for that time.

 

[rjessome]

I'd like to know how it is your wife plans to become a citizen. From the timelines posted, I'm unsure of how she met the residency requirements to maintain PR. It's pretty close. How much time has she actually spent in Canada since becoming a PR?