US Elections effects on Processing times.

[profiler]

I would have to agree with you that most Americans are clueless nobs who think they can just pack up and leave for Canada- but I wouldn't quite sell American spousal sponsorship to Canada as 'pretty easy and fast' either.. I'm an American who got some pretty bad legal advice to apply Inland because of the OWP. I've been waiting for a year and a half (and because of the bad legal advice, did end up paying thousands).. If I had found this forum sooner in the process, I would have cancelled my app and redone it Outland- I'd be done by now! I would bet there are a good number of American spouses who don't know about this forum who are in the same boat, unfortunately.

I think there is an awful lot of established relationships down there that would clearly qualify. I know some of my own family made it to NY, KY and AL. All (when they left) are Canadian born. So, they've long married, kids, etc. So I know of at least a handful who may return (Canadian-Canadian marriage) or may sponsor (Canadian-American). Perhaps I should start offering advice .

 

[profiler]

Still fielding questions from some people today, including some "Take me with you?" requests.

I had a good laugh at some Canadians on twitter making light of the situation.. offering marriage/sponsorship for set prices....

Total prostitution... obviously most were kidding.. statements like, "godly shaped figure, mensa member, and 7-figure dowry required."

Really too bad. I feel for those who are genuinely concerned..

 

[bluecanary]

My boyfriend and I have a plan for me getting PR in Canada through common-law sponsorship some time after I graduate around May 2017 - I probably would work for a bit here first to save up before going over there for a year+ to qualify and apply.

Are we going to have a hard time? You think by then, most of the panic surrounding a Trump win would die down? We've been in a relationship since 2013 with visits between mostly online communication. I really hope more scrutiny isn't applied to Americans. This is exactly what I'd been fearing this whole election season.

Edit: On top of that, I have a couple health problems... I really hope they don't think I'm trying to flee after the ACA is scrapped and people are struggling here.

 

[profiler]

My boyfriend and I have a plan for me getting PR in Canada through common-law sponsorship some time after I graduate around May 2017 - I probably would work for a bit here first to save up before going over there for a year+ to qualify and apply.

Are we going to have a hard time? You think by then, most of the panic surrounding a Trump win would die down? We've been in a relationship since 2013 with visits between mostly online communication. I really hope more scrutiny isn't applied to Americans. This is exactly what I'd been fearing this whole election season.

Edit: On top of that, I have a couple health problems... I really hope they don't think I'm trying to flee after the ACA is scrapped and people are struggling here.

Can he spend time residing down there with you? It just has to be 12mos continuous -- doesn't say where. Or to reduce the evidence burden, you could marry. That takes the 12mos cohabitation away as well.

In terms of medical, as long as it's not a public safety concern, spouse and common-law partners are exempt from excessive demand.

 

[bluecanary]

Can he spend time residing down there with you? It just has to be 12mos continuous -- doesn't say where. Or to reduce the evidence burden, you could marry. That takes the 12mos cohabitation away as well.

In terms of medical, as long as it's not a public safety concern, spouse and common-law partners are exempt from excessive demand.

I guess it's possible he could be here for 6 months and me there for the next 6 months depending on work situations. We don't want to marry for this, so we're prepared to provide as much relationship/cohabitation proof as we can get. I'm just worried that they'll start getting suspicious of Americans coming in. My medical concerns factored into that in case they think it's the reason I want to leave America for Canada...

 

[profiler]

I guess it's possible he could be here for 6 months and me there for the next 6 months depending on work situations. We don't want to marry for this, so we're prepared to provide as much relationship/cohabitation proof as we can get. I'm just worried that they'll start getting suspicious of Americans coming in. My medical concerns factored into that in case they think it's the reason I want to leave America for Canada...

If the relationship evidence is strong, they won't worry for health, assuming no public safety concern.

 

[Bcboundboy]

120 points max for age (20's)
140 points max for education (phd)
136 points max for language.
24 points max for 2nd language
600 points for job offer.

So you can see that age/education/language alone will not be enough to get the required high points to qualify for EE. Yes you can qualify for EE without job offer but it is much harder to qualify when EE is based on 1200 points. The minimum points for 2015 was 450. So age/education/language will not be enough to meet the minimum. Only those with job offers will be ranked much higher than those without and will likely be selected for EE.

CIC list

110 points max for age (20s)
150 for education
160 for total official languages
80 for Canadian work experience
50 for strong official languages/Canadian work experience, and a degree
50 for foreign work experience and good languages, or both Canadian and foreign work experience

So you can see it's entirely plausible to reach high 400s (and max out at 520 never having been to Canada) without a job offer, and qualify for EE. Age/language/education/work experience are enough to meet the requirements. Those with job offers are normally guaranteed, but is not a necessity for high scorers elsewhere.

 

[bluecanary]

If the relationship evidence is strong, they won't worry for health, assuming no public safety concern.

We only have a couple pictures together in person (hoping to take the bulk of them when spending the year together). We'll get letters from family and I've been selecting a few screenshots of skype conversations per month going all the way back, and screenshots from skype calls. Plane tickets, shipping receipts. Plus all cohabitation proofs when we live together. I hope that's enough. The health problems are an autoimmune disease and yearly cancer followup checkups, so not a public safety concern.

Thanks for your replies. It seems like I'm overreacting a bit, but ugh. Just seeing the CIC site go down and people freaking out and talking about moving to Canada because of Trump is stressing me out because I think it could make it that much harder for those of us who actually plan to immigrate but have not done so yet.

 

[profiler]

We only have a couple pictures together in person (hoping to take the bulk of them when spending the year together). We'll get letters from family and I've been selecting a few screenshots of skype conversations per month going all the way back, and screenshots from skype calls. Plane tickets, shipping receipts. I hope that's enough. The health problems are an autoimmune disease and yearly cancer followup checkups, so not a public safety concern.

Thanks for your replies. It seems like I'm overreacting a bit, but ugh. Just seeing the CIC site go down and people freaking out and talking about moving to Canada because of Trump is stressing me out because I think it could make it that much harder for those of us who actually plan to immigrate but have not done so yet.

It has been stated here before.. most will probably file, then be weeded out. So first stage might be slower than usual.

In the operational/process guides published for CIC officers by the CIC state excessive demand threshold is exempted from spouse, common-law, and conjugal partners.

Depending on what path you take, check: IP2, OP2, and OP8. The guide for panel physicians is also available...

 

[screech339]

CIC list

110 points max for age (20s)
150 for education
160 for total official languages
80 for Canadian work experience
50 for strong official languages/Canadian work experience, and a degree
50 for foreign work experience and good languages, or both Canadian and foreign work experience

So you can see it's entirely plausible to reach high 400s (and max out at 520 never having been to Canada) without a job offer, and qualify for EE. Age/language/education/work experience are enough to meet the requirements. Those with job offers are normally guaranteed, but is not a necessity for high scorers elsewhere.

Most applicants are not bilingual and don't have Canadian work experience. So their scores will be low. They may meet the minimum threshold to qualify for EE. But they would have to compete for limited annual quota of EE available with an applicant with a job offer that would be ranked much higher than them. Fed is going to approve the highest ranked applicants for EE. In other words, those with job offers over those who don't.

They can go ahead and apply for EE with no job offers and see how that works out for them. I am sure they are going to get disappointed in the results.

 

[Bcboundboy]

Most applicants are not bilingual and don't have Canadian work experience. So their scores will be low. They may meet the minimum threshold to qualify for EE. But they would have to compete for limited annual quota of EE available with an applicant with a job offer that would be ranked much higher than them. Fed is going to approve the highest ranked applicants for EE. In other words, those with job offers over those who don't.

They can go ahead and apply for EE with no job offers and see how that works out for them. I am sure they are going to get disappointed in the results.

This is basically precisely my point. Because it's entirely possible to qualify for EE even with no Canadian work experience, if there's an influx of people trying, the points requirement may rise, in order to get the same number of people.

 

[screech339]

This is basically precisely my point. Because it's entirely possible to qualify for EE even with no Canadian work experience, if there's an influx of people trying, the points requirement may rise, in order to get the same number of people.

Which goes back to my original point. The minimum points to qualify EE changes every year. Getting EE approved on education/age/language with no job offer will not be enough to get approved. A young English speaking with an apprenticeship holding a job offer will likely get EE approved over an recently university graduated young bilingual person with no job offer. People with job offers have a leg up over those who don't have one, after all a job offer is worth half the total max points.

 

[nartcr]

What I fear is if the refugee applications for say: Mexico goes up from December onwards.

 

[screech339]

What I fear is if the refugee applications for say: Mexico goes up from December onwards.

I agree, especially when Trudeau wants to remove visa requirement from Mexicans. Visa was slapped on Mexicans for this very reasons. Lots of bogus refugee claims.

 

[profiler]

Trumpugees.

I thought we still had a political asylum clause in IRPA. They could seek asylum (if it still exists... unsure that it does).

We also have Yazidi refugees arriving in 3 mos. So, busy busy times for CIC ahead!