US Elections effects on Processing times.

[MilesAway]

Yes, there is a lot of misunderstanding about the Canadian immigration system. The vast majority of Americans who have stated they will move to Canada won't actually qualify.

Some of the major American news networks don't help either. CNN had an article on people wanting to move to Canada, and mentioned that a winning ticket in the citizenship lottery was one of the ways to get in.

 

[thestunner316]

Some of the major American news networks don't help either. CNN had an article on people wanting to move to Canada, and mentioned that a winning ticket in the citizenship lottery was one of the ways to get in.

some ???
OMG, lottery system...

forget God bless america, how about God help america.. ???

 

[Survivor27]

And, CIC website is back ---- intermittently!

 

[ImABule]

some ???
OMG, lottery system...

forget God bless america, how about God help america.. ???

Britain- brexit is the stupidest, most self destructive thing a country could do

USA- hold my beer

 

[crazy D]

yep, other half of the population actually voted for him, and the first half thinks they can move tomorrow...
blame the education system i say... thats just a lot of dumb people for a country that big...

Exactly

 

[Masonb6888]

I'm still not sure if this eased my fears or not. I'll just have to hope for the best I guess. We get to apply December 10th!
Actually, can I send it in a couple days before since mailing it might take a day or two? ;D

 

[profiler]

I'm still not sure if this eased my fears or not. I'll just have to hope for the best I guess. We get to apply December 10th!
Actually, can I send it in a couple days before since mailing it might take a day or two? ;D

It will all come down to who can access cic.gc.ca long enough to get the document packages and mailing address. Also how many south of the border want to jump ship. If 1/3000 wanted to jump, that's 16,000 more than the 2017 Family Sponsorship target....

 

[Bcboundboy]

Very little, if any.

Most of the people who want out won't qualify. Canada is quite a difficult country to move to. Of those who do, many will not actually take the step to leave.

If a large number of highly skilled people apply, then EE points requirements may go up (because if thousands of PhD holding Americans join the pool, they can get the same number of people with higher point thresholds).

If there's a sudden influx of spousal support applications, American apps may start needing a higher burden of proof, as is required from most of the world.

 

[screech339]

Very little, if any.

Most of the people who want out won't qualify. Canada is quite a difficult country to move to. Of those who do, many will not actually take the step to leave.

If a large number of highly skilled people apply, then EE points requirements may go up (because if thousands of PhD holding Americans join the pool, they can get the same number of people with higher point thresholds).

If there's a sudden influx of spousal support applications, American apps may start needing a higher burden of proof, as is required from most of the world.

The problem is that Harper revamped the points systems to be based on job market demand. So education/age/language will not be enough to qualify for EE alone. They need a job offer to successfully get EE. That is a hard sell to convince government to allow job offer to Americans when you have a lot of unemployed Canadians affected by oil crash.

 

[Bcboundboy]

The problem is that Harper revamped the points systems to be based on job market demand. So education/age/language will not be enough to qualify for EE alone. They need a job offer to successfully get EE. That is a hard sell to convince government to allow job offer to Americans when you have a lot of unemployed Canadians affected by oil crash.

Actually you don't need a job offer (supported by an LMIA). That makes it a lot easier, but many people qualify for draws based on their education, work experience, and age,without a job. Basically if you're university educated or higher, have five years skilled work experience & are under 30, you can easily qualify with no job offer, especially if toy have good skills in French as well as English.

 

[screech339]

Actually you don't need a job offer (supported by an LMIA). That makes it a lot easier, but many people qualify for draws based on their education, work experience, and age,without a job. Basically if you're university educated or higher, have five years skilled work experience & are under 30, you can easily qualify with no job offer, especially if toy have good skills in French as well as English.

120 points max for age (20's)
140 points max for education (phd)
136 points max for language.
24 points max for 2nd language
600 points for job offer.

So you can see that age/education/language alone will not be enough to get the required high points to qualify for EE. Yes you can qualify for EE without job offer but it is much harder to qualify when EE is based on 1200 points. The minimum points for 2015 was 450. So age/education/language will not be enough to meet the minimum. Only those with job offers will be ranked much higher than those without and will likely be selected for EE.

 

[Staunts2015]

I don't see this having much of an effect, except possibly at the initial processing levels with a bunch of people submitting applications that end up not being valid, but I'd assume those would get tossed quickly. There are a bunch of very confused people on my Facebook feed tonight who don't seem to understand that you can't just...you know...apply and get in and move, without meeting a lot of qualifications. I gave up trying to explain it to people after a while. Once people figure out it's not as simple as it looks, it'll probably die out. People threaten these sorts of things every election cycle.

I am glad that my husband and I started our relationship and got married when we did, because what I would worry about for Americans down the line is coming under extra scrutiny (at least for a brief period) as to whether the relationship is genuine in case someone's just trying to escape as a Trump refugee.

I'm unable to access MyCIC at all, but I was able to log in to ECAS fine a few minutes ago. Hopefully things clear up tomorrow. Still in shock.

I completely agree. I was just telling my husband how great it was that we got married last year, versus people genuinely getting married after Trump was elected. I'm still scared it will postpone things, at least a little, but I can still go to Canada as a visitor for 6 months, without any problems, so I may be moving a few months before I expect my PR to be granted.

 

[Aquakitty]

I made a post on reddit informing them of the difficulties of actually immigrating to Canada. Some of the clueless people out there are quite funny. Some guy was arguing with me about how "it costs thousands and takes years" for an American spousal sponsorship to Canada. Ok, bud, obviously the guy didn't know what he was doing. I would agree with that if they had criminal issues, but in general, it's pretty easy and fast and certainly won't cost "thousands" unless you're paying a lawyer (for the non-visa countries). Then there are the people that don't know how hard it is to immigrate with only your skills. Yeesh I have to stay off there for a while, getting pissed off.

It might not be so bad if you have a NAFTA career. Until Trump vetos that, at least.

 

[Lizzy1987]

I made a post on reddit informing them of the difficulties of actually immigrating to Canada. Some of the clueless people out there are quite funny. Some guy was arguing with me about how "it costs thousands and takes years" for an American spousal sponsorship to Canada. Ok, bud, obviously the guy didn't know what he was doing. I would agree with that if they had criminal issues, but in general, it's pretty easy and fast and certainly won't cost "thousands" unless you're paying a lawyer (for the non-visa countries). Then there are the people that don't know how hard it is to immigrate with only your skills. Yeesh I have to stay off there for a while, getting pissed off.

It might not be so bad if you have a NAFTA career. Until Trump vetos that, at least.

I would have to agree with you that most Americans are clueless nobs who think they can just pack up and leave for Canada- but I wouldn't quite sell American spousal sponsorship to Canada as 'pretty easy and fast' either.. I'm an American who got some pretty bad legal advice to apply Inland because of the OWP. I've been waiting for a year and a half (and because of the bad legal advice, did end up paying thousands).. If I had found this forum sooner in the process, I would have cancelled my app and redone it Outland- I'd be done by now! I would bet there are a good number of American spouses who don't know about this forum who are in the same boat, unfortunately.

 

[danawhitaker]

yep, other half of the population actually voted for him, and the first half thinks they can move tomorrow...
blame the education system i say... thats just a lot of dumb people for a country that big...

To be fair, a lot of Canadians aren't aware of just how complicated the process can be, either. I know there was some surprise from my husband's family about how long the process would take. Even my uncle, who's fairly well-traveled and spent time living outside the United States, was surprised at the length of the process. I think it's the sort of thing that most people don't have much knowledge of, and assume is easier than it actually is (to move to another country, in general, not just Canada), unless they have the intent of going through it themselves, or know someone who has gone to that specific country. I know I didn't know much of anything about the process until my husband and I realized we wanted to get married and live in the same place, but wouldn't have assumed it was as difficult as it actually is.

Still fielding questions from some people today, including some "Take me with you?" requests.