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URGENT: BOWP denied while implied status (Inland PR SINP)

mrjossi

Newbie
Apr 28, 2015
2
0
BOWP was denied while on implied status (closed work permit expired) due to employer restriction
(I was unaware of the BOWP rule change Aug, 2014)

CIC phone receptionist and website questions both led me to BOWP. Receptionist said the application would result in a closed work permit if not meeting the requirements for open, but I got refusal.

Inland PR application is in the final stages of processing.
Loss of status caused by BOWP denied due to employer restriction

QUESTION:

What's WORSE for the processing of inland PR (based on PNP employer sponsorship)?

-Being out of status applying/awaiting restoration

OR

-Leaving Canada and returning (TO GET RID OF “OUT-of-status” ASAP) as:
a) Visitor status (From a visa exempt country)
b) With a new work permit issued at POE

Does the leave of Canada without status during inland PR app in process have any negative affect?

CIC said PR application keeps processing no matter where you are (inside/outside the country)
SINP said losing status awaiting restoration shouldn't affect the PR application

How would this information pertain to a VISA EXEMPT person getting visitor status and my situation:

"Temporary residence applicants with in-Canada applications for permanent residence in progress"
cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/visa/processing/pr.asp

SPECIFICALLY:

"Who is inadmissible?
All in-Canada class applicants, except those in the spouse and common-law partner in Canada class (IP 8 ) and the permit holder class, must not be inadmissible at the time of their PR application. Therefore, if these TRV applicants return to Canada on temporary resident permits (TRP), they are, by definition, inadmissible and their applications for permanent residence from within Canada will be refused under R72(1)(e)(i), regardless of how close to finalization the application is at the CPC-Vegreville or at an inland CIC office. In-Canada officers have no option but to refuse these applications.”
------------------------
72. (1) A foreign national in Canada becomes a permanent resident if, following an examination, it is established that
(e) except in the case of a foreign national who has submitted a document accepted under subsection 178(2) or of a member of the protected temporary residents class,
(i) they and their family members, whether accompanying or not, are not inadmissible,
---------------------------

AND

“In-Canada applicants who have travelled outside of Canada (asylum seekers, members of the in-Canada protected persons (PP) classes and persons who have applied for humanitarian and compassionate (H&C) considerations in Canada)

If such an applicant has travelled outside Canada, this may have an impact on the in-Canada case processing of their application. This means that consultation with the processing office in Canada will normally be required (via e-mail using the the CPC-Vegreville mailbox to communicate with the CPC-V).

Visa officers are advised to contact the office in Canada responsible for the applicant's in-Canada case processing to verify whether the fact that the applicant is now outside Canada has any bearing on the case in process in Canada, and whether the office in Canada has any other information that might be relevant to the application at hand.

The response of the responsible office in Canada should be inserted into the CAIPS notes/GCMS of the TRV file.

In assessing a TRV application in relation to R179, visa officers should take into consideration the information provided by the in-Canada processing office."

=====================================================

thank you so much for your help.
Any input will be appreciated.

Is there any easy way to appeal a decision… as CIC phone receptionist and internet questions both guided me to the wrong application
Also, since I was unaware of the new rule change.
I just want my closed work permit back as CIC receptionist said I would be granted that at least when telling me to do BOWP based on my pre-loss situation.

lastly, my last entry to Canada has a stamp on the passport (in January 2015) but no handwriting
I’m told that the stamp without handwriting ensures 6 months of temporary resident status.
But since my closed work permit was still active at that time, the entry stamp fails to have any significance?

MY MAIN CONCERN IS TO HAVE THE PR APPLICATION KEEP PROCESSING

Thanks
 

liisa227

Star Member
Feb 25, 2014
187
33
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-06-2014
Nomination.....
04-02-2014
AOR Received.
27-08-2014
IELTS Request
not required
Med's Request
27-08-2014
Med's Done....
07-10-2014
Apply for restoration right now. You have 90 days to do it, but you should do it as soon as possible anyway. Because your BOWP was rejected, you are now out of status and can't legally work. Your PR application should still be OK, but only if you get your restoration soon enough, because as far as I know you must have valid status in Canada at the time of issuing the PR visa.

Do not leave Canada - you cannot get a new WP at POE if you've lost your status (due to rejected WP application). I'm not sure if you would even be allowed to enter as a visitor, because it's my understanding that you always have to apply for restoration first before applying for a new WP/visitor status.

It 100% sucks that you got misleading information from CIC agents - that's what happened to me too. I was told last year that I'm eligible for BOWP, which in fact I wasn't because I also had an employment restriction. I had applied for it anyway, but luckily received the new information before they made a decision so I was able to withdraw the application and get my $$$ back.

Good luck buddy!
 

mrjossi

Newbie
Apr 28, 2015
2
0
Thank you so much!

regarding your answers,

by "because as far as I know you must have valid status in Canada at the time of issuing the PR visa"

do you mean they wont send the COPR papers in the mail?..... or they will not sign the COPR papers at the border?

I'm aware I can't get my COPR papers signed INLAND (ie. at an in country CIC office) without status

does anyone know more about this?

Thank you so much
 

liisa227

Star Member
Feb 25, 2014
187
33
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-06-2014
Nomination.....
04-02-2014
AOR Received.
27-08-2014
IELTS Request
not required
Med's Request
27-08-2014
Med's Done....
07-10-2014
mrjossi said:
Thank you so much!

regarding your answers,

by "because as far as I know you must have valid status in Canada at the time of issuing the PR visa"

do you mean they wont send the COPR papers in the mail?..... or they will not sign the COPR papers at the border?

I'm aware I can't get my COPR papers signed INLAND (ie. at an in country CIC office) without status

does anyone know more about this?

Thank you so much
Ultimately the decision to grant you the PR is made at the border when doing your final landing. That's when the officers will question you for the last time to make sure you qualify for PR.

If they find out that you don't, in fact, qualify, then they will not issue the PR. If you're an inland applicant, then one of the qualifications is to have valid status when doing the landing (outland applicants obviously don't have this requirement). The officers will certainly check all your documents to make sure you 100% qualify, so there's no way getting around it.

You might get the COPR papers even if you were out of status, because CIC would not necessarily become aware of the expiry of status by the time the COPR was sent. But COPR on its own doesn't have value - it's basically just a permission from CIC to go to POE and attempt PR landing. Simply having a COPR is not a guarantee of anything. It's up to the border officers to decide whether or not they will turn the COPR into an official PR visa.
 

MP89

Star Member
Mar 27, 2015
107
1
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC - OTTAWA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-06-2014
Doc's Request.
31-03-2015 (Schedule A)
Nomination.....
02-06-2014
AOR Received.
21-01-2015
Med's Request
27-01-2015
Med's Done....
14-02-2015
Passport Req..
15-05-2015
VISA ISSUED...
01-06-2015
mrjossi said:
BOWP was denied while on implied status (closed work permit expired) due to employer restriction
(I was unaware of the BOWP rule change Aug, 2014)

CIC phone receptionist and website questions both led me to BOWP. Receptionist said the application would result in a closed work permit if not meeting the requirements for open, but I got refusal.

Inland PR application is in the final stages of processing.
Loss of status caused by BOWP denied due to employer restriction

QUESTION:

What's WORSE for the processing of inland PR (based on PNP employer sponsorship)?

-Being out of status applying/awaiting restoration

OR

-Leaving Canada and returning (TO GET RID OF “OUT-of-status” ASAP) as:
a) Visitor status (From a visa exempt country)
b) With a new work permit issued at POE

Does the leave of Canada without status during inland PR app in process have any negative affect?

CIC said PR application keeps processing no matter where you are (inside/outside the country)
SINP said losing status awaiting restoration shouldn't affect the PR application

How would this information pertain to a VISA EXEMPT person getting visitor status and my situation:

"Temporary residence applicants with in-Canada applications for permanent residence in progress"
cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/visa/processing/pr.asp

SPECIFICALLY:

"Who is inadmissible?
All in-Canada class applicants, except those in the spouse and common-law partner in Canada class (IP 8 ) and the permit holder class, must not be inadmissible at the time of their PR application. Therefore, if these TRV applicants return to Canada on temporary resident permits (TRP), they are, by definition, inadmissible and their applications for permanent residence from within Canada will be refused under R72(1)(e)(i), regardless of how close to finalization the application is at the CPC-Vegreville or at an inland CIC office. In-Canada officers have no option but to refuse these applications.”
------------------------
72. (1) A foreign national in Canada becomes a permanent resident if, following an examination, it is established that
(e) except in the case of a foreign national who has submitted a document accepted under subsection 178(2) or of a member of the protected temporary residents class,
(i) they and their family members, whether accompanying or not, are not inadmissible,
---------------------------

AND

“In-Canada applicants who have travelled outside of Canada (asylum seekers, members of the in-Canada protected persons (PP) classes and persons who have applied for humanitarian and compassionate (H&C) considerations in Canada)

If such an applicant has travelled outside Canada, this may have an impact on the in-Canada case processing of their application. This means that consultation with the processing office in Canada will normally be required (via e-mail using the the CPC-Vegreville mailbox to communicate with the CPC-V).

Visa officers are advised to contact the office in Canada responsible for the applicant's in-Canada case processing to verify whether the fact that the applicant is now outside Canada has any bearing on the case in process in Canada, and whether the office in Canada has any other information that might be relevant to the application at hand.

The response of the responsible office in Canada should be inserted into the CAIPS notes/GCMS of the TRV file.

In assessing a TRV application in relation to R179, visa officers should take into consideration the information provided by the in-Canada processing office."

=====================================================

thank you so much for your help.
Any input will be appreciated.

Is there any easy way to appeal a decision... as CIC phone receptionist and internet questions both guided me to the wrong application
Also, since I was unaware of the new rule change.
I just want my closed work permit back as CIC receptionist said I would be granted that at least when telling me to do BOWP based on my pre-loss situation.

lastly, my last entry to Canada has a stamp on the passport (in January 2015) but no handwriting
I'm told that the stamp without handwriting ensures 6 months of temporary resident status.
But since my closed work permit was still active at that time, the entry stamp fails to have any significance?

MY MAIN CONCERN IS TO HAVE THE PR APPLICATION KEEP PROCESSING

Thanks
Hi,
May I know when did you apply for open work permit. Now you can apply for LMIA exempt work permit.
 

Yahoo06

Star Member
Jan 27, 2015
107
3
I am on the same boat! My pnp officer suggest me for wait of restoration approval before go to any port or border ! My bad luck is i have all paper work but restoration going to take 4 month of processing time! In mean time my pr application is at cic for processing!!