unacceptable CEC application refusal letter

[gta-tor-etob]

Thanks Rajjj, Yes as we know, giving them more information then required is always good rather than giving less information which they can challange easily for refusal. Cheers!

gta-tor-etob

 

[lucky_CA]

According to CIC checklist, reference letter MUST be written in a company letterhead ( the first requirement of work experience letter in CIC checklist). It is only the company's official stamp, which is not mandatory.

Your representative did a great mistake.

Since, your employer is not widely known in Canada and you have neither provided the letter in company letterhead nor any business card of your supervisor, it is very rationale for the Visa Officer to be suspicious of your work experience.

Next time when you apply, try to get the reference letter, which contain company's letterhead, even if it doesn't contain any logo or letterhead, get a business card of your supervisor who signed the letter. The business card should contain all the contact information asked by CIC.

 

[hamad0313]

Just send your letter to hrsdc they will confirm you the correct NOC, then you would be sure the exact reason of refusal. IF the refusal is just on the basis of not providing letter on employer letterhead than I guess you should fight their decision as you are correct not every employer has an official letterhead and it doesnt mean that your experience is not authentic or anything else, its not necessary to go to get the court ruling in every rejection case there is also a way where you just request the cic regional tribunal to reconsider the officers decision and if they agree they will simply reopen your file and assign it to different officer. So seek a professional lawyer advice because if you reapply without a letterhead there is a strong chance you will get rejected again after waiting for ten months and I would not suggest you to reapply with a forged letterhead.

 

[nicole1006]

hi, do you mind sharing your timeline please?

 

[vijayarr]

I don't understand why people keep asking for timelines when someone gets rejected? How is that even relevant? Sorry to say this but if you cant help this guy stop asking when he applied and when he got rejected in order to assess the duration of your own application. Just have some courtesy! I've noticed this over and over again and it's about time someone said something about this

 

[jsm0085]

I don't understand why people keep asking for timelines when someone gets rejected? How is that even relevant? Sorry to say this but if you cant help this guy stop asking when he applied and when he got rejected in order to assess the duration of your own application. Just have some courtesy! I've noticed this over and over again and it's about time someone said something about this

How is it relevant? Because other people want to look at the timeline of the poster and compare it to their own situation... Whatever their reason, they are doing nothing wrong by asking. I ask the same kind of questions because it helps me get a better understanding of the full process... This is a forum, it's designed to allow people to ask such questions - their is no rule against it. I'd suggest you have some courtesy, just because YOU don't think it's a worth while question, doesn't mean others share your opinion.

"I listed them all.. I went to Germany for business and I gave out that address all.. It can never hurt you when you specify all this info right?"

If you want to talk about relevance, you have already demonstrated your stupidity by posting the above. Providing random visits abroad for business or pleasure is not only pointless but it could actually cause problems in your background check - as technically you have never resided in the mentioned addresses, only visited.

People like you delay the process for others because instead of doing and providing what has been asked for, you decide to put your own spin on it - which subsequently uses more of the VO's time.

I'd suggest that in the future, unless you have something helpful to say, you say nothing at all.

 

[from_mumbai]

How is it relevant? Because other people want to look at the timeline of the poster and compare it to their own situation... Whatever their reason, they are doing nothing wrong by asking. I ask the same kind of questions because it helps me get a better understanding of the full process... This is a forum, it's designed to allow people to ask such questions - their is no rule against it. I'd suggest you have some courtesy, just because YOU don't think it's a worth while question, doesn't mean others share your opinion.

"I listed them all.. I went to Germany for business and I gave out that address all.. It can never hurt you when you specify all this info right?"

If you want to talk about relevance, you have already demonstrated your stupidity by posting the above. Providing random visits abroad for business or pleasure is not only pointless but it could actually cause problems in your background check - as technically you have never resided in the mentioned addresses, only visited.

People like you delay the process for others because instead of doing and providing what has been asked for, you decide to put your own spin on it - which subsequently uses more of the VO's time.

I'd suggest that in the future, unless you have something helpful to say, you say nothing at all.

wow

 

[BK11]

Totally agreed with jsm0085...this is a public forum and by asking anybody's timeline is not a kind of some disrespect or hurt to their emotions. Timelines give us an idea on how visa offices are processing the files and how much time it took to give its decision

I don't understand why people keep asking for timelines when someone gets rejected? How is that even relevant? Sorry to say this but if you cant help this guy stop asking when he applied and when he got rejected in order to assess the duration of your own application. Just have some courtesy! I've noticed this over and over again and it's about time someone said something about this

 

[jes_ON]

According to CIC checklist, reference letter MUST be written in a company letterhead ( the first requirement of work experience letter in CIC checklist). It is only the company's official stamp, which is not mandatory.

Your representative did a great mistake.

There were a number of errors, including the above. The NOC code may not have been correct (was it a food store or a restaurant? They're different), the description of job duties not adequate, but possibly worst of all, the letter did not even cover 1 full year. (The OP never indicated whether there was more than one job/letter of reference, or even for which stream the application was submitted).

For some people, there is value in going through a consultant or lawyer, but it doesn't change the fact that you need to know the program requirements and ensure your application meets them...

 

[Cruiser55]

There were a number of errors, including the above. The NOC code may not have been correct (was it a food store or a restaurant? They're different), the description of job duties not adequate, but possibly worst of all, the letter did not even cover 1 full year. (The OP never indicated whether there was more than one job/letter of reference, or even for which stream the application was submitted).

For some people, there is value in going through a consultant or lawyer, but it doesn't change the fact that you need to know the program requirements and ensure your application meets them...

Agreed!

 

[jes_ON]

I would add that, CIC provides information about authorized consultants, and what to do if you have a complaint about one.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/representative/

 

[from_mumbai]

I signed. Contract with them in the begining, and we both knew its non refundable no matter what, i tried to ask him to partially refund my money,but he didnt agree,

I agree with Jes_ON, you should complain..

his job was to give you proper guidance so that you can present everything to CIC as they want it to be.. Thats what you paid him for!

 

[otonglo]

this is interesting, i applied under the same NOC code and got refused on the grounds that the officer was not satisfied that i performed a substantial number of the main duties, mind you my reference was missing three out of nine main duties. The officer also said that from my reference letter there was no evidence that a business actually existed. I think the main reason my application was denied was because my reference letter didn't have alot of info about the business and not so much on the duties. I just read your post up there and i think If you going to reapply my friend i suggest that you have all the duties from your NOC code listed and worded a little differently. You might want to have a proper letter with a letter head, a business card, a stamp or seal if applicable and T4's that match your notice of assessment. The last thing you want is to be in the same scenario 9 to 10 months later.

Good luck mate 8)

 

[random123]

@otonglo was your reference on letterhead? I am a bit concerned because my company was taken over by another just at the time i qualified, but my boss gracefully indicated this information in the letter, and included press releases as proof. He also wrote on old company letterhead and included his business card (since the takeover had just happened, this was only what was available, i didnt want to wait any longer because i was not sure he would still be working there, which would complicate attempting to get a letter, also my t4 is under old company name). Now, the website has recently been changed. I just hope the evidence he included is enough! Also, although website is now changed (no redirect) a quick google search would verify the information (lots of articles on the recent takeover). arrrgh. sleepless nights.

this is interesting, i applied under the same NOC code and got refused on the grounds that the officer was not satisfied that i performed a substantial number of the main duties, mind you my reference was missing three out of nine main duties. The officer also said that from my reference letter there was no evidence that a business actually existed. I think the main reason my application was denied was because my reference letter didn't have alot of info about the business and not so much on the duties. I just read your post up there and i think If you going to reapply my friend i suggest that you have all the duties from your NOC code listed and worded a little differently. You might want to have a proper letter with a letter head, a business card, a stamp or seal if applicable and T4's that match your notice of assessment. The last thing you want is to be in the same scenario 9 to 10 months later.

Good luck mate 8)

 

[otonglo]

@ random 123, i don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you can prove that the business existed in a different name at the time of your application. I highly doubt that an immigration official will try and google your employer's business. They only process the application based on the information provided. If the officer has any doubt about your application they don't even call to try and clarify any details they refuse it asap unless offcourse your very lucky and in that case you should go buy a lottery ticket