Toward Understanding Bill C-6 to Amend Citizenship Act; new 3/5 rule plus

[punk]

a maximum of 1 year. Meaning 2 years maximum pre pr would gives you 1 year toward citizenship. If 3 years pre pr you still get ine year only..

That's what I assumed too, but I was trying to find the maximum limit, but couldn't find one. Also if you are living in Canada and travelling to US everyday for work, I assume it counts a day in Canada right ?

 

[chaos123456]

Hi guys, I arrived in Canada in 2009 and I just became PR last week, does that mean with the new rule I can apply for citizenship in 2018? (1 year pre-PR and 2 years post). Thanks.

 

[itsmyid]

Hi guys, I arrived in Canada in 2009 and I just became PR last week, does that mean with the new rule I can apply for citizenship in 2018? (1 year pre-PR and 2 years post). Thanks.

If it becomes law and effective next year, but it may not happen

 

[Krutika]

Nobody knows for certain.

The bill has passed through the major stages in the House of Commons (the Lower House of the Parliament). These include: first reading, second reading, the committee stage and report stage. There is one last stage remaining, called third reading which was scheduled to happen last Wednesday but after a brawl in the House it got postponed.

Now keep in mind that in ALL of these stages the Liberals (the party in power who brought the bill) were the majority. So no problems there.

The bill, after it passes third reading - a formality, needs to be sent to the Senate (the Upper House of Parliament). There it needs to follow the same path, namely first reading, second reading, committee stage, third reading. If it passes all steps there then it becomes law. If not it goes back and forth between the Houses until everybody agrees.

Keep in mind that the Conservatives now have majority in the Senate. Even more importantly they have majority in the Senate Committee, which means that it only takes those people to delay the bill.

That said, even if the bill passes all stages, it's been circulated that there will be a delay in implementing the 3-year residency requirement (other changes will take effect immediately) to prevent a backlog. Nobody knows how long - maybe 3 months, maybe 6, maybe 12.

That's the story - in a nutshell.

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any possible way for the present govt to expedite or push the bill through?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems the previous govet had a much easier time passing their bill through faster.

 

[Naheulbeuck]

Thanks for the explanation. Is there any possible way for the present govt to expedite or push the bill through?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems the previous govet had a much easier time passing their bill through faster.

The previous government had majority everywhere and the current one has some other more urgent matters (especially the bill on assisted dying) that it focuses on.

 

[myYahoo]

http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/in-committee-house-of-commons/episodes/47578656

 

[makpan]

What is current situation on this Bill ?

 

[quasar81]

What is current situation on this Bill ?

Current status of bill is "Limbo".

Technically, it has to be heard for 3rd time in House, and if passed it goes to Senate I think. Not sure what that 3rd reading/vote date is.

 

[makpan]

When it will be in effect if passed

Current status of bill is "Limbo".

Technically, it has to be heard for 3rd time in House, and if passed it goes to Senate I think. Not sure what that 3rd reading/vote date is.

 

[boateng]

it seems there might be no debate as the status of bill seems to be concurred in at report stage on May17, 2016

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=42&Ses=1&DocId=8279624#DOC--8280262

 

[quasar81]

Alright gentlemen, here it comes. Liberals will not get any help to pass bills in Senate from their Liberal/Independent senators.

Assisted dying bill is to be sent back, as will the C-6. http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/rushed-assisted-dying-legislation-senate-1.3604005

It's a mess in Senate. Situation is same as US now where no single party controls both houses of congress, and "Limbo" is name of the game of most bills.

C-6 seems to be up for a bleak fate as 'unelected' Senators will tell what democratically elected House should do. What a mess. Senate need to be dissolved and fat p*g Senators on free dole from taxpayers need to go.

 

[emamabd]

Alright gentlemen, here it comes. Liberals will not get any help to pass bills in Senate from their Liberal/Independent senators.

Assisted dying bill is to be sent back, as will the C-6. http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/rushed-assisted-dying-legislation-senate-1.3604005

The link does not mention anything about C-6...is it your guess that it will have the same fate as C-14?

 

[boateng]

the article is about a bill tha liberal put forward to control debate time/hours in house of commons and not C-6, please stop misleading.

Bill c-6 will go forward if not by july 1 then next year but will happen.

 

[747-captain]

It's a mess in Senate. Situation is same as US now where no single party controls both houses of congress, and "Limbo" is name of the game of most bills.

Sorry, but that is not true. BOTH houses of the US congress, the Senate and the House of Representatives are controlled by the REPUBLICANS. They have a narrow majority in the Senate (54 Republicans 44 Democrats and 2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats - so essentially a 54/46 majority). In the House they have a wide majority (246 to 188 with 1 vacant seat).

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post!

And of course, I hope what you did state is right (in so far as the 2016 elections go). Hopefully the Democrats will capture the Senate in November. The House is almost an impossibility right now. But if Hillary wins in November (*keeps my fingers crossed*) and the Senate is in the hands of the Democrats that will be a very good thing indeed!

 

[meyakanor]

Sorry, but that is not true. BOTH houses of the US congress, the Senate and the House of Representatives are controlled by the REPUBLICANS. They have a narrow majority in the Senate (54 Republicans 44 Democrats and 2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats - so essentially a 54/46 majority). In the House they have a wide majority (246 to 188 with 1 vacant seat).

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post!

And of course, I hope what you did state is right (in so far as the 2016 elections go). Hopefully the Democrats will capture the Senate in November. The House is almost an impossibility right now. But if Hillary wins in November (*keeps my fingers crossed*) and the Senate is in the hands of the Democrats that will be a very good thing indeed!

Sometimes, I wonder if Canadian democracy and interests would be better served if MPs can freely vote their conscience, rather than strictly following party disciplines. In the US, even within one party itself, there are so many factions, and they all vote differently (i.e., you have blue-dog democrats, libertarian-leaning democrats, conservative democrats, tea-party, etc).

US Senators and House reps can point to their voting records while seeking re-election, whereas in Canada, you vote for the party rather than particular MPs within your constituency, since you can pretty much expect that they would (almost) always adopt their parties' official positions on issues.