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Toward Understanding Bill C-6 to Amend Citizenship Act; new 3/5 rule plus

Krutika

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it seems there might be no debate as the status of bill seems to be concurred in at report stage on May17, 2016

Cool, I'm trying to find some link that says exactly where the status of the bill is at this time, but nothing clear.
If it's concurred, then it should be in senate already ?
 

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Hi Krutika,
Please check out following link and go to Third Reading list.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/LAAG.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1

Hope this helps.
 

tyl92

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bill c-6 won't be discussed anytime soon according to the tiny delay before summer recess ..it's weird
 

tyl92

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around june 23rd , it'll be very hard to have a royal ascent by this date .
But who knows .. hope makes us alive...
 

emamabd

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around june 23rd , it'll be very hard to have a royal ascent by this date .
But who knows .. hope makes us alive...
Yep...all we can do is hope at this stage...there's still a long journey ahead for this Bill :-[
 

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i am telling you the Bill not take so long and will be approve soon. Right now waiting to passed third reading then senate has no choice when approved in parlement and for senate to approve it s more faster then parlement members approve it.
Also senate not that much busy to pass the Bill.
good lock everyone soon we gonna hear good news
 

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artin2015 said:
i am telling you the Bill not take so long and will be approve soon. Right now waiting to passed third reading then senate has no choice when approved in parlement and for senate to approve it s more faster then parlement members approve it.
Also senate not that much busy to pass the Bill.
good lock everyone soon we gonna hear good news
What makes you think that the senate has no choice but to pass the bill. They can debate and revised it as they see fit. Or even kill the bill for that matter (unlikely event) . They are under no obligation to pass every bill passed by commons. Once revised, and passed in senate, they can send it back to commons for vote there. It is awfully presumptuous of you to assume that the senate will approve all bills passed by commons. The senate has killed bills in the past.
 

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I think a reasonable expectation of when the 3/5 rule will be implemented would be sometime in 2017. There is minimal possibility that the Bill will be approved before the summer break; it makes more sense that such an approval would be done and dusted sometime in November, and the actual implementation of the new rule would initiate later, maybe Spring 2017. While people on here consider this Bill crucial for their case, unfortunately it is not a top priority in the Parliament considering more urgent topics they are debating.
 

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screech339 said:
What makes you think that the senate has no choice but to pass the bill. They can debate and revised it as they see fit. Or even kill the bill for that matter (unlikely event) . They are under no obligation to pass every bill passed by commons. Once revised, and passed in senate, they can send it back to commons for vote there. It is awfully presumptuous of you to assume that the senate will approve all bills passed by commons. The senate has killed bills in the past.
I understand but this Bill was conducted for long time in canada and it s not new Bill to doubt about it just they want bring it to previous law
 

MountainLife

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I think a reasonable expectation of when the 3/5 rule will be implemented would be sometime in 2017. There is minimal possibility that the Bill will be approved before the summer break; it makes more sense that such an approval would be done and dusted sometime in November, and the actual implementation of the new rule would initiate later, maybe Spring 2017. While people on here consider this Bill crucial for their case, unfortunately it is not a top priority in the Parliament considering more urgent topics they are debating.
What are the chances the Bill will reach Royal Assent this year? And if it does... wouldn't that mean all of the "Citizenship Act" changes it covers come into law as well ie the 3/5 rule, pre-residency time etc? Why would the 3/5 rule take longer than the rest of the Bill?

Or are you meaning, the whole Bill won't reach Royal Assent until 2017?
 

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MountainLife said:
What are the chances the Bill will reach Royal Assent this year? And if it does... wouldn't that mean all of the "Citizenship Act" changes it covers come into law as well ie the 3/5 rule, pre-residency time etc? Why would the 3/5 rule take longer than the rest of the Bill?

Or are you meaning, the whole Bill won't reach Royal Assent until 2017?
The odds are probably good that Bill C-6 will reach Royal Assent this year, perhaps sooner rather than later (but this is still subject to contingencies, such as whether other legislation gets more priority before the summer break and, of course, the not-entirely-predictable Senate).

Like many legislative enactments, various parts of Bill C-6 are governed by coming-into-force provisions. These are part of Bill C-6 itself. If the Bill is silent (contains no coming-into-force provision) about a part of the Bill, that part comes-into-force when the law itself is adopted. That means as of the date of Royal Assent.

Many parts of the Bill, however, are subject to a specific coming-into-force provision. Like most coming-into-force provisions in other legislation, these mostly give the Governor-in-Council the authority to specify certain dates for when certain parts of the Bill come-into-force.

Thus, for example, for Bill C-6, (if I recall correctly) the part which repeals and removes the intent-to-reside requirement is not subject to a coming-into-force provision, so that will take effect as of the date of Royal Assent.

In contrast, for example, the part which amends the physical presence requirement, that is which implements a 3/5 rule rather than the current 4/6 rule, is subject to a coming-into-force provision which is to be determined by the Governor-in-Council. Thus, this part of Bill C-6 will not come into force until some time after the date of Royal Assent. My understanding is that Minister McCallum has already suggested there will in fact be a substantial wait before the 3/5 rule comes into force.

Again, this is common. The departments and agencies and ministries of government which actually manage and administer the government often need time to prepare for changes in law like this. Additionally there may be other logistical factors which influence the timing for when parts of legislation should take effect, and indeed Minister McCallum has at least alluded to the need to time the coming-into-force of the 3/5 rule so that IRCC is prepared to avoid this causing a backlog due to a large number of new applications.

I have avoided getting into the guessing-when game, but I do think it is safe to say that while the 3/5 may take effect late this year, it is more likely to not take effect until sometime next year. But that is a total guess. All we really know is that it will not happen soon, not before significantly later this year.