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To Lie or Not to Lie

gss89x

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If Express Entry system will be giving you Permanent Residency than you can lie for sure, But if CIC is going to give you PR than you can't. 8)
 

dukhi

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Jun 14, 2013
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I am not lying...its the system which is inefficient and giving me points wrongly when i have a month less experience
 

dukhi

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I got the ITA again under FSW...ill easily satisfy FSW 67 points requirements even with one month less in Canadian experience as i have foreign experience as well...and the things i mentioned in EE form i can justify them as well....should i go ahead??
 

nick.rwth

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Oct 7, 2014
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dukhi said:
I got the ITA again under FSW...ill easily satisfy FSW 67 points requirements even with one month less in Canadian experience as i have foreign experience as well...and the things i mentioned in EE form i can justify them as well....should i go ahead??
DON'T BE STUPID, SUBMIT AS IS, BUT BE SURE NOT TO PAY APPLICATION FEE AND SUBMIT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU HAVE FULL YEAR!
 

nick.rwth

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YOU GOT INVITATION TODAY, GATHER ALL DOCUMENTS AND SUBMIT BY MAY 23-25, 2015
THATS IT.
 

dobes

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Nov 23, 2014
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dukhi said:
what extra paper work required apart from showing more money??
Documenting TEN YEARS of work experience! To me, since I worked in 3 countries in the last ten years, that was hardest.
 

dobes

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Nov 23, 2014
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nick.rwth said:
YOU GOT INVITATION TODAY, GATHER ALL DOCUMENTS AND SUBMIT BY MAY 23-25, 2015
THATS IT.
He got the invitation for FSW, so doesn't really need to wait until the end of May to apply.
 

dukhi

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Jun 14, 2013
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dobes said:
Documenting TEN YEARS of work experience! To me, since I worked in 3 countries in the last ten years, that was hardest.
Did you tried to get reference letter and employment letter both from your previous employee?? I am finding one difficult how will i arrange two
 

katja2684

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Jan 31, 2015
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Dukhi the system invites you by default under FSW if you qualify for both FSW and CEC.
Whatever you declared in your profile as work experience, you have to justify it later.
I worked in 8 places in the last 10 years but I claimed points only for 3 in Express Entry. After the ITA the system asked me for reference letters from these 3 workplaces only.
 

dobes

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Nov 23, 2014
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katja2684 said:
Dukhi the system invites you by default under FSW if you qualify for both FSW and CEC.
Whatever you declared in your profile as work experience, you have to justify it later.
I worked in 8 places in the last 10 years but I claimed points only for 3 in Express Entry. After the ITA the system asked me for reference letters from these 3 workplaces only.
Yes, I think that's an important point that isn't entirely clear when filling out the EE application. It tells you to list your jobs for the last 10 years, but in fact you should list only those you can verify, for which you will get points. If a company you worked for has closed, or if you know you can't get a letter from a place and no longer have pay stubs, you shouldn't list it.

On the other hand, if you get an ITA, it will again ask you to account for all your time in the last 10 years, and then what do you write for jobs you can't verify? It would be a lie to say you were unemployed...
 

dukhi

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Jun 14, 2013
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dobes said:
Yes, I think that's an important point that isn't entirely clear when filling out the EE application. It tells you to list your jobs for the last 10 years, but in fact you should list only those you can verify, for which you will get points. If a company you worked for has closed, or if you know you can't get a letter from a place and no longer have pay stubs, you shouldn't list it.

On the other hand, if you get an ITA, it will again ask you to account for all your time in the last 10 years, and then what do you write for jobs you can't verify? It would be a lie to say you were unemployed...
True thats a confusion...no where it says list only jobs you can verify etc or only those jobs you want points for...it simply says list all your position you want points for...i think if only those jobs were to be mentioned for which we will get points why will they have the drop down of were you studying during that Time or not as it should be implicit right
 

dukhi

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Jun 14, 2013
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dobes said:
Yes, I think that's an important point that isn't entirely clear when filling out the EE application. It tells you to list your jobs for the last 10 years, but in fact you should list only those you can verify, for which you will get points. If a company you worked for has closed, or if you know you can't get a letter from a place and no longer have pay stubs, you shouldn't list it.

On the other hand, if you get an ITA, it will again ask you to account for all your time in the last 10 years, and then what do you write for jobs you can't verify? It would be a lie to say you were unemployed...
How many letters should i try to get from my employer??
 

dobes

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Nov 23, 2014
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dukhi said:
How many letters should i try to get from my employer??
Your document list will tell you what letters they want and from whom. If you can't get letters, sometimes a contract plus pay stubs or invoices for self-employed jobs will count.
 

dukhi

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Jun 14, 2013
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dobes said:
Your document list will tell you what letters they want and from whom. If you can't get letters, sometimes a contract plus pay stubs or invoices for self-employed jobs will count.
What should i do if my present employer says they cannot give me letter with roles/responsibilities?