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legalfalcon

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Dear @legalfalcon
I am under SS and recently my status of "Review of additional documents" changed to "Not Applicable" from We need more documents. Do you know what does it mean? BG check is still we are processing your BG...
Thanks
The MyCIC status messages have no relevance. They do not tell what stage your application is at. All application go through the following stages:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security

To read on each stage see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

Any change in status is a progress. Either you can order GCMS notes, or simply wait it out by seeing other applicants who applied along with you to close to your date of submission.
 
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legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
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FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
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Dear Legal Falcon,

In your last message you have confirmed that as far as in GCMS notes there are no wordings of "Security Screening", it means I am not in Security Screening. Although my background checks has taken more then 10 months.

What do you think that if I want to make sure 100% that whether I am in Security Screening or not, Should I order CBSA Notes? OR CSIS Notes? Which are more usefull to get maximum information. Someone told me that better to order CBSA because it will at least reveal that whether you are in Security Screening or not? Could you please provide your favorable advice in this regard.
Go for the CBSA notes as in CBSA notes the security information is not retracted, if it has been concluded. CBSA issues their report and GCMS notes. So you will get both at the same time.

CSIS notes are just a FOSS check, and other more. They only help you know when your application was received by CSIS and when they concluded it. Where as CBSA provides the report and GCMS which is not retracted.
 
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legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear @legalfalcon
I am under SS and recently my status of "Review of additional documents" changed to "Not Applicable" from We need more documents. Do you know what does it mean? BG check is still we are processing your BG...
Thanks
See #1051
 

mdady16

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You do not have any info retracted under s15 as your security has not started. Security starts after eligibility is completed. Do you have any notes pertaining to eligibility in your GCMS?
Thank you @legalfalcon for your response. Eligibility was initially marked as completed, then changed to not started.

There is also an update that happened today on my profile where I received a request to upload the height, eye color and biopage of all the family passports.

Do you think PPR is coming soon ?
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
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NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thank you @legalfalcon for your response. Eligibility was initially marked as completed, then changed to not started.

There is also an update that happened today on my profile where I received a request to upload the height, eye color and biopage of all the family passports.

Do you think PPR is coming soon ?
Usually this information is asked after the eligibility is mid way or concluded.

Most likely your security is pending.
 

mdady16

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Usually this information is asked after the eligibility is mid way or concluded.

Most likely your security is pending.
Thank you for the insight. I have seen in most of the forums that people from LVO get this right before PPR. so does that mean the wait is not over yet ?
 

Yhan22

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Dec 16, 2017
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Dear @legalfalcon

I uploaded my divorced paper last month thru cse. And when i checked my cic account the review of document says not applicable and the name of my ex is still in my account. I was just wondering how long it will take for ircc to remove my ex husbands name in my account. I am March 2017 pnp inland applicant and still waiting for medical. Thanks you for your help.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,047
9,915
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thank you for the insight. I have seen in most of the forums that people from LVO get this right before PPR. so does that mean the wait is not over yet ?
You are asking me to speculate, which I don't. Any movement is a sign of progress. To see the stage you are at, check your GCMS. And finally have patience. You will soon see the PPR>
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,047
9,915
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Dear @legalfalcon

I uploaded my divorced paper last month thru cse. And when i checked my cic account the review of document says not applicable and the name of my ex is still in my account. I was just wondering how long it will take for ircc to remove my ex husbands name in my account. I am March 2017 pnp inland applicant and still waiting for medical. Thanks you for your help.
It takes 1-3 weeks for them to review your documents. Your husband's name will not be removed. Instead it will be noted in the GCMS notes.
 

rxyz

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Feb 24, 2017
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Hey guys! my manager who signed the employer letter for me has recently moved from our company and also left the US. I am wondering if I need to notify the IRCC and send them a new letter (based on my GCMS my eligibility is passed but I am under SS since August). Thanks.
Anyone can answer? tnx.
 

mdady16

Full Member
Feb 25, 2018
22
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You are asking me to speculate, which I don't. Any movement is a sign of progress. To see the stage you are at, check your GCMS. And finally have patience. You will soon see the PPR>
Thank you, I agree with you and appreciate your philosophy. Waiting patiently now.
Great to see people like you spend their personal time to help others.
Cheers
 

HKV

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Aug 25, 2017
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It takes 1-3 weeks for them to review your documents. Your husband's name will not be removed. Instead it will be noted in the GCMS notes.
Hi Legalfalcon, thanks for all your help! You have been a great advisor.
I had a question actually, I submitted my FSW - O application on the 18/12/2017. I am currently in IP2 stage (which changes on 27/02/2018), Still waiting for my PPR. I just wanted to understand if the eligibility check is completed or still pending at this stage?
I had emailed CPC Ottawa when I was in NA stage and they had replied back stating, security, criminality & info sharing assessment is complete. Nothing about eligibility was mentioned. This was a month back, still waiting for the PPR!
 

managersonline

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It takes 1-3 weeks for them to review your documents. Your husband's name will not be removed. Instead it will be noted in the GCMS notes.
Dear Legal Falcon,

I have also noticed recently update in MyCIC exactly on Friday 2nd of March 2018, in "Review of additional documents" which is displaying now:- "We are reviewing the additional documents you provided." Actually they asked few documents about renewed bio pages of passport around two months ago.
Some people say that it is only system glitch in the MyCIC software. Whether they will be really reviewing my documents OR it is only system software glitch as people are speculating. OR should i consider it a positive sign that at least they are reviewing my file now?
 

aasef

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H. Some scandals CSIS has been involved with.

Even though CSIS is a professional agency that is tasked with the security screening of prospective immigrants, it does not stop its activities there. Even after an applicant is granted PR status, CSIS continues to monitor his activities, as another security screening is done when the PR applies for citizenship. CSIS, from the time someone applies to enter Canada until long after they have citizenship is involved in surveilling, gathering information, creating files, developing profiles, writing and passing on secret reports. There have been frequent complaints about general harassment, and also about the specific behaviour of CSIS. CSIS agents have been known to show up at an individual’s door late at night. As SIRC reports indicate, CSIS agents regularly fail to inform the individual of their right to have an attorney present.

According to the National Council on Canada-Arab Relations (NCCAR), students of Arab origin are being approached by CSIS agents on campus for questioning. They have reportedly been threatened with deportation and revocation of their status if they fail to provide information about community members (“In The Shadow of The Law”, a report by the International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group (ICLMG), 2003).

Toronto immigration lawyer Faisal Kutty elaborates, “Showing up at homes and workplaces unannounced; offering money and favors for “information”; intimidating and threatening newcomers; inquiring about a person’s religiosity; and discouraging people from engaging lawyers are some of the recurring themes that I have come across from clients.” (Faisal Kutty, “The Dirty Work of Canadian Intelligence”, April 2004)

The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) has distributed tens of thousands of “Know Your Rights” guides and organized workshops across the country to help community members deal with CSIS and the RCMP. A community survey conducted in 2004 by CAIR-CAN reports that security officials were using, “troubling tactics” such as “discouraging legal representation, aggressive and threatening behaviour, threats of arrest pursuant to the antiterrorism act, visits at work, intrusive and irrelevant questionning, improper identification, informant solicitation, and interrogation of a minor.” (CAIR-CAN, “Presumption of Guilt”, 2004).

In the past CSIS has been involved in the following scandals:

Maher Arar. Documents divulged in the Arar inquiry reveal that CSIS believed “the U.S. would like to get Arar to Jordan where they can have their way with him,” as early as two days after Mr. Arar was deported by the US to Jordan, and then on to Syria, where he was tortured and imprisonned for nearly a year. According to the Arar inquiry report, CSIS nevertheless visited Syria and met with Syrian intelligence agents during Arar’s incarceration, even passing on questions to be posed to Arar. The information Arar provided under torture was then passed on to CSIS, who in turn passed it on to other Canadian authorities. CSIS's position during this period was that Arar should not return to Canada. Syrian authorities were aware of the position of CSIS, despite Canada's official demand that Arar should be released immediately. Arar is one of several individuals who have gone public with similar stories, including Benamar Benatta, Abdullah Almalki, Ahmad El Maati, Muayyed Nureddin and Abousfian Abdelrazik. The report on this is available at http://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/402/SECU/Reports/RP4004074/securp03/securp03-e.pdf


Security certificate cases. Security certificates are a “legal” way of doing the same thing that was done to Arar, Benatta, Almalki, El Maati, Nureddin and Abdelrazik: on the basis of secret suspicions, attempting to send people to places where it is known they will be tortured and in the meantime keeping them in indefinite detention. CSIS is the government agency which prepares security certificate cases. Even within the fundamentally flawed framework of the certificate, CSIS has been mired in several scandals, including the destruction of evidence, and possible involvement in media leaks. CSIS has been accused of using information obtained under coercion and torture in these and similar cases. For example, CSIS is known to have introduced information obtained from Abu Zubaydah-the poster boy of the CIA’s “black sites” programme-into the Charkaoui case. CSIS continues to deny that it uses information obtained under torture, but in November 2005, SIRC SIRC reported that CSIS was in no position to make "an absolute assurance" to the government that information it receives from allied spy agencies is not obtained as a result of torture. What is a security certificate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_certificate

Air India. CSIS destroyed key wiretap evidence and those responsible were not brought to justice. A suspected CSIS mole, Surjan Singh Gill, was identified by the RCMP as one of six main suspects in the bombing. The RCMP believed that he had the explosives and airline ticket with him shortly before two bombs were apparently checked onto flights in Vancouver. Gill left Canada in 2000 and has never been charged. (Globe and Mail, 4 June 2003). More on Air India Case - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182

Bhupinder S. Liddar. CSIS was caught lying to SIRC [Security Intelligence Review Committee] (in SIRC’s words, the agency “purposefully misled” SIRC in order to "suppress information that was embarrassing to the Service") to cover up its errors in the Liddar case. SIRC reported that CSIS had conducted a “hasty, slipshod investigation” and had ‘a regrettable’ attitude that supporting Arab causes can be suspicious.” (Globe and Mail, 14 September 2005). https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/csis-vows-changes-amid-criticism/article986548/

Targeting Unions. During the 1980s and 1990s, CSIS spied on the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW). Former CSIS officer John Farrell confessed that, as CUPW engaged in the difficult negotiations leading to the strike of 1991, he and fellow officers prepared dossiers on "troublesome" CUPW leaders. They sought and received authorization to intercept every piece of mail delivered to the homes of targetted labour organizers and to inspect their garbage. They illegally planted a listening device in a postal station and stole keys from a postal depot to break into apartment buildings and mail boxes (Andrew Mitrovica, Covert Entry: Spies, Lies and Crimes Inside Canada's Secret Service). CSIS has always denied these activities. CUPW was not the only union of interest to CSIS. Marc-André Boivin infiltrated Quebec’s CSN for 15 years - first for the RCMP and then for CSIS. Boivin was involved in making bomb threats during a hotel strike.

Heritage Front. Grant Bristow, one of the founders of the neo-Nazi group Heritage Front was employed for five years by CSIS. According to an article by Bill Dunphy of the Toronto Sun, Bristow was supposed to be working as a mole for CSIS, while serving as the intelligence chief and co-director of security for the Heritage Front. However, his active role in hate activities has raised questions. Bristow allegedly ran a programme of harassment against anti-racists in Canada, and provided the Front with personal information on them. More on Heritage Front - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_Front



I hope you found this information useful. I try to answer as many questions as I can, but it is humanly impossible for me to answer specific application questions for all applicants. So lets keep this thread to discuss BGC and what other forum members have experienced.

If you have any specific questions for me, please use the threads in my signature.

Thank you.
I have military service but I have been visiting Canada on Visit visas. Do you think they have ample info about me that will reduce BGC times for my immigration?