that was harsh, I need your support

[RocketCity]

Why must you make a dig at India everytime though? Sure it is corrupt, but there are other countries in the third world,just as corrupt or worse! The western media is obsessed with glorifying evrything unsavory about India. Slumdog millionaire anyone? Have you been slighted by an Indian?

Isn't it kind of hypocritical to make this statement when you make a dig at Canada any chance you get? To quote a wise fellow:

Wouldn't you rather want the truth the whole truth instead of some cute fairy tale steeped in maple syrup?

ETA: For what it's worth, I value your opinions of Canada.

 

[realtexdex]

Touche! I love the country, the economy is in the doldrums though, just like I love the country of my birth with all its shortcomings! That is no grounds for a constant bashing of India, China or south asians.

 

[jazibkg]

Not everyone is willing to take a risk. People trust their network and that is why it the first option they pick someone from it. It is human tendency to do that.

No country is good or bad, its the people of the country that make the difference. Not everyone is a critical thinker and there is a limit to which a person can read bad about his country.

Man, go ahead and bash every country all you want. That's what the freedom of speech hollahoo is all about. So, BASH ALL THE COUNTRIES! YAY!

But there's a catch; don't bash them on their shortcomings, criticize the evil in their society as you may.

 

[realtexdex]

Thats a sensible response, pick on them all, not just one country, equal opp yay! I was just being facetious,but I concur.

 

[MUFC]

In USA we can see more diversity ... here in Canada approx. 60~70% of the newcomers are from South Asia.

Even in this thread the dominant part of the participants are Asians ...

 

[RocketCity]

In USA we can see more diversity ... here in Canada approx. 60~70% of the newcomers are from South Asia.

Even in this thread the dominant part of the participants are Asians ...

Of American immigrants that are in the "skilled" streams (i.e. Employment Based), it is mostly Chinese and Indians. This is why the green card quota from these two countries are constantly backlogged. For the family based streams, the immigrants are mostly of Latin American descent. Since Canada puts more emphasis on skilled immigrants, don't be surprised when most immigrants are from China or India.

 

[MUFC]

My understandings for diversity is a fair mix of immigrants from everywhere... Not a majority from a specific region of the world.

 

[RocketCity]

My understandings for diversity is a fair mix of immigrants from everywhere... Not a majority from a specific region of the world.

You're right. It is more diverse, but it's due to family immigration and the green card lottery. However, the immigrants that are skilled aren't as diverse (mostly Chinese and Indian). In essence, Canada gets (on average) a higher skilled immigrant.

 

[david1697]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS:

We all basically are here BASHING CANADA (for whatever reason , because its' economy has no jobs to hire many of us as skilled workers, because you have to "network" to get a job like in a third world corrupted country and so on),now how come it's OKEY for us to DO THAT and NOT OKEY to compare it to some other country where corruption is rampant and truly bad (something we don;t want to see happening in Canada)?

I mean what moral grounds do we have to say ANY word critical of Canada if we won't tolerate and will attack and insult anyone who says any critical word about country of our origin?

As to someone who said my statement is idiotic, in regards to Indian having an advantage looking for a white collar job in India vs in Canada (as a non-networked newcomer),my response is: I stand by what I have said! There is nothing idiotic in saying something that makes sense.

If neither country provides practical means to get a w.c. job without a network, and if you lived in one of two your entire life (and, arguably, have at least some connections,and know how to peddle influence, at very worst pay 10 lakhs and buy a gov job, as opposed to a land where no one knows anything about you and where no one hires you because they don't know you), how come your chances of finding a white collar job back home aren't better than in Canada?

 

[MUFC]

Many people admit when they leave Canada that there is not so much opportunities left here , that's why they don't want to live in Canada anymore.

 

[RocketCity]

As to someone who said my statement is idiotic, in regards to Indian having an advantage looking for a white collar job in India vs in Canada (as a non-networked newcomer),my response is: I stand by what I have said! There is nothing idiotic in saying something that makes sense.

Didn't have a problem with that part of your statement. However, do you honestly believe that "Canada today, economy wise, is not much different from many third world countries". This is your statement. I see the poor in the developed countries and I compare it to the poor in my home country (a real 3rd world country), and it's not even close. Hell, the poor of a developed country has the material comfort of the middle class in a 3rd world country.

 

[polara69]

Hell, the poor of a developed country has the material comfort of the middle class in a 3rd world country.

Agree 100%

this is poor to me

Being poor in Canada means nowhere near this, I cannot imagine to be poor in a 3rd world country!

 

[RocketCity]

Being poor in Canada means nowhere near this, I cannot imagine to be poor in a 3rd world country!

In a first world country, someone at the bottom of the ladder will complain about having to take a "survival job". In a 3rd world country, there are not even enough "survival jobs" to fall back on.

 

[MUFC]

That confirms the idea that the people from the 3rd world countries are feeling happy here, but that doesn't change the fact that the standard of living is going down in Canada and there is not much opportunities for getting a good job easy, simply because too many people are already on the line waiting for the good positions.

 

[RocketCity]

I think the bigger issue is that Canada allows skilled immigrants to immigrate without a job offer. The US, as a contrast and a counterexample, requires that you have a job offer. Which system is better for the immigrant? One gives you an opportunity to try to succeed (even if it's more difficult). The other puts more barriers for entry (hence denying many of the opportunity to try to succeed), but it makes sure that those that can pass those barriers will succeed. The difference is where the barriers are located. One is before you enter the country. The other is as you are living there. What is better I guess depends on the perspective of the immigrant. If you are well established, I can see why starting over in Canada may not be the thing for you. On the other hand, if you are young and have time on your side, moving to Canada may be worth the dice roll. However, the responsibility of figuring that out is on the immigrant. If you blindly immigrate to Canada without knowing what's in store for you, that's your own fault. This is why I value the opinions of both immigrants who succeed and those who failed. Every experience is something prospective immigrants can learn from.