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Dear Legal Falcon,

This may be a dumb question. But just want to clarify.

After completing all the details in ITA application, i continued to next page for uploading stage. There was one line "Do you have any trouble downloading application form". I could not find any application form. The help screen talks about online and paper application.

Is there any separate application form? or is the one which i am completing is the online application?

Kindly advise.

TIA
There is nothing dumb especially when you are making the most important decision of your life.

As regards downloading, there is no form to be downloaded when filling post ITA application, unless you are filling paper based application.
 
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Hi legalfalcon,
Would need your advice. Yesterday i recieved reply from cpco dat my file requires addition verification, does that mean final officer has reviewd my file ?and selected me for SS. Per last gcms notes my file was reccomend passed by case analyst. My ques is who selects file for security screening and at what stage?????
So far i dnt hv SS mentioned anywhere in my last notes. Email reply frm cpco made me worry to apply fr fresh notes. Pl throw some light.
Additional verification does not necessarily mean SS, unless you specifically see it in your notes. Additional verification also refers to evaluating your BGCs and final verifications after the eligibility has met.
After the eligibility is recommended passed, an IRCC officer will review the recommendation and make a final determination, after which your application status for eligibility will change to "Passed". Even this could be additional verifications.

No need to worry.
 

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Hello Legalfalcon,


Hello legalfalcon,

As suggested, I posted an email to CPC Ottawa for extension of deadline for passport submission.
The email was sent to them on August 15, 2017. However I have neither received any acknowledgement nor any reply from them till now. Its been more than a week now.
My date with PSK is August 30 for passport renewal.
Do you think it is ok to write to them again?
Does auto-acknowledgement of emails comes for all emails.

Thanks!!
It takes a while before they respond. Also raise a CSE and try calling IRCC. But they will respond and don't worry about the date, as they will give you a new one.
 

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Dear Legalfalcon,

Does the 6 months processing time also include the time between PPR and passport stamping? Or is it only AoR to PPR?
The six month processing time starts when the application clears R10 and is calculated until the day when a decision on the application is made. The PPR and passport processing is not included.
 

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Hi legalfalcon,

Need your expert advice please..
In my GCMS notes it says, review type: support service agent application: is this for R10 review? Also at the last it also says eligibility showed as Failed prior to application promotion... what does that mean?
Can you please tell me what does that mean.... in agent review 11.2: decision met 75(2) FSW minimum requirements: review required 76(1) (a) selection criteria.
Also, in my admissibility section, security 1: assign due date was 31th May.
Now, in background check do they start security plus eligibility and also if need any ADR they request that too... all started at same time?
Thanks in advance

For the R10 there will be a separate note which will say R10 complete. When you see review required, it is for eligibility.

regulation 75 deals with meeting the program requirements for the program. and 76(1)(a) is specific to the points calculation of MEC.

To read more on A11.2 see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp

The failed prior to promotion is when an application score is calculated and it does not meet the criteria as eligibility is checked against all programs. It has no bearing on the application.

The due date is a system generated date, and most applications are processed way before or after that. It also has no significance.

The BGC starts after eligibility in most cases.
 
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Legalfalcon - I have a question. My points were 68 and then i claimed points for my Aunts so my points came to 73. As I am PNP my CRS was 980 at the time of ITA. Right now my application is at NA2 stage.

For claiming points of my 2 Aunts living in Canada I gave the following docs:

1. Birth Certificates of Both Aunts and my Mother showing the same Parents and then my Birth Certificate showing my Mothers name.
2. For Aunt No. 1 I gave her PR Card, Latest Electricty Utility Bill, Latest Credit Card Bill
3. For Aunt No. 2 I gave her PR Card, Her latest House TAx payment Receipt and her 6 months latest Bank Statement.

My question is - I just saw a case above where they questioned the relationship points for an applicants sister and in eligibility wrote : Review required.
In case they have an issue with someone claiming points for relative and are not satisfied with the evidence provided will they calculate points eligibility after they substract the 5 points ( In my case 68 points and i still cross the threshold of 67 points) or they stop the application all together?

Just feel a bit concerned as I didnt give rental agreement etc. of Aunts homes.

Thank you for your input.
You get 5 points for relative. If IRCC has a concern, they will ask for clarification or ADR. If they are not satisfied, they will not award points and if upon not getting 5 points, you do not meet the FSW MEC, your application will be rejected. If after deduction of 5 points you still meet the MEC of 67, the application processing will continue as normal as long as there are no concerns for misrepresentation.

However, with your documents, I do not see any concerns.
 

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Hi legalfalcon,

I would appreciate it if you can help me with those issues.

I have submitted my EE application with Canada as my country of residence, although I was in my home country for a vacation, as I have a valid status having a work permit, health card, mailing address in Canada. However, I included my travel to my home country for vacation in my travel history and address. I was considering staying in vacation for only one month and go back to Canada, however I am currently still in my country and may stay for months and even till I get my PPR. So, do I have to submit a CSE to change my mailing address and telephone number to my current one? or I just wait for PPR then send my passport to Ottawa by courier from my country? or wait for PPR then send a request to Ottawa to change my visa office?

As long as you intend to return to Canada, you do not need to change your country of residence. Also, you do not have to inform IRCC of any travels made after your file your application.

Also, I received a military service details request from CIC. Does this request means that I have passed the eligibility check and now I am in a security check? My timeline is as follows:

AOR 22 June 2017
Meds passed 17 July 2017
IP1 17 July 2017
RCMP request 17 July 2017
RCMP submitted 03 August 2017
NA2 21 August 2017
Military details request 22 August 2017

This is issued when your application is in eligibility as either you indicated a military service or IRCC found it in the FOSS system and they need clarification.

Thank you.
 

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Thanks legalfalcon. I tried this but it does not show my application. Though i have raised a CSE and mentioned my new address there mentioning my UCI etc. Would this be sufficient?
Can we also check the status of the PR card?
If the above link does not work, then CSE is the next best way and you can also call IRCC. As of not you cannot check the status of PR card, you can only get processing times. http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/information/times/index.asp
 

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Hi Legalfalcon,

I have some questions regarding the PCC & Experience letter from employer. Please guide me to prepare these documents in advance to avoid any hassle later on.

I’m an Indian working in Doha, Qatar from April 2016 & my wife is also staying with me (on visit visa which is valid for 6 months, so after every 6 months she lefts the country and come back)

PCC: For me: I understand that I will be required the PCC from QATAR but do I required the PCC from India as well? IF yes, then do I have to take PCC from all the cities I worked before e.g. Delhi, Chandigarh OR the PCC from the city having permanent address on my passport (which is other than Chandigarh & Delhi)

Requirements for PCC are as follows:
  • For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR.
  • For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the applicant lived in that country.
  • Police certificates are required up front and are mandatory for each country (except Canada) where an individual has lived for a total of six months or more. This instruction is for the purpose of the completeness check under section R10.
So you will need PCC for Qatar, India and any other country you have lived for more than 6 months.

For Wife: Does she require the PCC from Qatar also ?? (as her total stay in Qatar is over 12 months now in total) or only Indian PCC will do fine?
Yes, she will need a PCC from Qatar. However, remember, "for countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the applicant lived in that country." So when you get the PCC for your wife, you have to make sure that she is no longer residing in Qatar when you get the PCC and file the application.So calculate when you want to file and plan accordingly.

Experience certificates: I have worked with 4 Indian Companies before other than my current employer and I have got experience certificate from all of them containing all the information such as joining/last working date, salary details, designation & time of my tenure (except job responsibility. Do I have to get fresh letters now from all my previous employers?

No, you can use them as long as they meet IRCC requirement. The requirements are:

a reference or experience letter from the employer, which

  • should be an official document printed on company letterhead (must include the applicant’s name, the company’s contact information [address, telephone number and email address], and the name, title and signature of the immediate supervisor or personnel officer at the company),
  • should indicate all positions held while employed at the company and must include the following details: job title, duties and responsibilities, job status (if current job), dates worked for the company, number of work hours per week and annual salary plus benefits

And, from the current employer, what are the details required to be mentioned on experience certificate?

They are the same, see above,

Thanking you in anticipation.

Best regards,
Mohit
 
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This is regarding adding the spouse name in passport. I didn't include my wife name in my passport but my name is already included in my wife passport. And i have the Marriage Certificate.
Should i include spouse name in my passport too? or it will do fine with the support of MC.

Thanks !
The adding of name in passport is only required by Indian authorities and Canada does not care. As long as you have the marriage certificate, you are fine.
 
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Thank you legalfalcon for your clarification.

So for now I don't have to inform IRCC about my current address and phone number in my home country? and what if I got PPR from Ottawa while I'm still in my country?

Thanks.
 

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Additional verification does not necessarily mean SS, unless you specifically see it in your notes. Additional verification also refers to evaluating your BGCs and final verifications after the eligibility has met.
After the eligibility is recommended passed, an IRCC officer will review the recommendation and make a final determination, after which your application status for eligibility will change to "Passed". Even this could be additional verifications.

No need to worry.
Thanks dear,. One more ques
At what stage we can see ss in notes ? My last notes generated on 17 july does nt hv ss any where. So is there any possibility to get ss at this stage? Today i hv ordered new notes.
 

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You get 5 points for relative. If IRCC has a concern, they will ask for clarification or ADR. If they are not satisfied, they will not award points and if upon not getting 5 points, you do not meet the FSW MEC, your application will be rejected. If after deduction of 5 points you still meet the MEC of 67, the application processing will continue as normal as long as there are no concerns for misrepresentation.

However, with your documents, I do not see any concerns.
Thank you Legal Falcon!
 

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For the R10 there will be a separate note which will say R10 complete. When you see review required, it is for eligibility.

regulation 75 deals with meeting the program requirements for the program. and 76(1)(a) is specific to the points calculation of MEC.

To read more on A11.2 see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp

The failed prior to promotion is when an application score is calculated and it does not meet the criteria as eligibility is checked against all programs. It has no bearing on the application.

The due date is a system generated date, and most applications are processed way before or after that. It also has no significance.

The BGC starts after eligibility in most cases.
Thank you legalfalcon for your great info
 

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Even if your are a PNP, you have to meet the CRS and the MEC for either FSW or CEC. The MEC - minimum eligibility criteria is the above link, for FSW you need 67 out of 100. If you do not meet that, your application will be rejected even if you meet get the PNP.

At time of APR, PNP Express Entry applicants must demonstrate that they meet the PNP program requirements and, for A11.2 assessment, that they meet the program requirements of one federal immigration program (FSWP or CEC or FSTP).

See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/pnp.asp
Thank you Sir, for your reply.
So does that mean that SINP might provide me the nomination, and then I need to demonstrate my eligibility in APR?
I am asking that question because I am thinking to reappear in IELTS in 14th October, And I am confident that I will get CLB8 comfortably. Which will lead to the score of 68 in FSW.
Then I will upload my latest IELTS score in Express Entry profile and then I can satisfy the FSW requirement. So, is there any drawback in my thinking process?
What I want to know is that at least I can get the nomination from SINP, right?