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Need some serious help here. I got an Invite based on OINP Accepted. I have 18 days left to submit, but today I declined the invitation. I immdiately got Profile in-eligible messge. Is this the end of the road for me. My points are not being displayed and EE criteria is showing as Not Met. My OINP is showing Accepted however. My view submitted application is showing as "Transmitted" in red. Please advise I am desperate
After withdrawing your application should be Active. If it does not become active in 24 hours raise a CSE showing technical error.
 

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Thanks bro, hope its technical error, was hoping for a new invite this friday. I seriously hope nothing is wrong but then I immediately received a rofile in-eligible message/error I guess this is automated. Anyone else who has been through this kind of situation ?
 

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I found out the glitch I updated my marital status but gave funds as 15000 as against 15200 so it became in-eligible. Now profile cannot be update. I guess its pretty much end of the road for me. Not sure how to go about this now. If I create a new profile and link this account it still be in-eligible. Maybe I must ask OINP if they can give nomination to my new account. :-\
 

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Lakhanpal.saurabh said:
Depends upon the discrepancy. If they need you to produce an additional proof, original or a missing document then you get time. But if its a mistake let's say wrong dob filled in profile resulting in points being awarded then it will be a rejection.
Thanks! what about wrong NOC?
 

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maged_mmh said:
Thanks! what about wrong NOC?
AFAIK and what i have heard so far on this forum is that wrong NOC is a straight rejection, without any opportunity to correct it.

Disclaimer: Unless there are people who have go notifications and corrected it thereof and not reported here.
 

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CanadaWeCome said:
AFAIK and what i have heard so far on this forum is that wrong NOC is a straight rejection, without any opportunity to correct it.

Disclaimer: Unless there are people who have go notifications and corrected it thereof and not reported here.
If I use the one proposed by the NOC guys, is it safe enough?
 

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If I use the one proposed by the NOC guys, is it safe enough?
I don't think anybody can guarantee on that, but what i'd say is that a confirmed NOC from them would be much more reliable than our own or any novice's judgement.

If not anything else at least you can argue your rejection (if at all) case with CIC citing the email suggestion/recommendation from them, with the hope that they may listen and revive your case than reapplying.
 

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maged_mmh said:
If I use the one proposed by the NOC guys, is it safe enough?
Yes it is, NOCs are defined by hrsdc. attach reference letter/reply on NOC from them in your application.
 

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cjs said:
Yes it is, NOCs are defined by hrsdc. attach reference letter/reply on NOC from them in your application.
can we attach such email? good idea, however they say in the mail "as a pre-packaged statement" that it's the applicant responsibility to chose the correct NOC, and they're not liable
 

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maged_mmh said:
can we attach such email? good idea, however they say in the mail "as a pre-packaged statement" that it's the applicant responsibility to chose the correct NOC, and they're not liable
NOC create confusions among some. When two jobs have little or negligible difference like let's say, early childhood educator assistants and primary teacher in India. Both are jobs of people of same profile in India. Now wrong NOC is a definite rejection.
But the point is its a NOC is for the kind of job that you do, this indicates that description of NOC given at CIC website must match your experience letters, rigorously match them.
Example, in an early childhood educator assistant experience letter it shall not be written that he/she has been conducting story telling for "her" class. Because when you write "her class" it indicates that the person was Incharge of the class and not an assistant. So basically have/formulate/get changed/beg your employer/make carefully the experience letter according to NOC description without fail or contradictions.
 

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Lakhanpal.saurabh said:
NOC create confusions among some. When two jobs have little or negligible difference like let's say, early childhood educator assistants and primary teacher in India. Both are jobs of people of same profile in India. Now wrong NOC is a definite rejection.
But the point is its a NOC is for the kind of job that you do, this indicates that description of NOC given at CIC website must match your experience letters, rigorously match them.
Example, in an early childhood educator assistant experience letter it shall not be written that he/she has been conducting story telling for "her" class. Because when you write "her class" it indicates that the person was Incharge of the class and not an assistant. So basically have/formulate/get changed/beg your employer/make carefully the experience letter according to NOC description without fail or contradictions.
Specifically, I'm a technical sales solution architect (telecom networks) working for a telecom equipment vendor, if I were to chose I would've chosen 2147, the NOC customer service advised to use 6221 (technical sales) because 2147 is regulated. I can't say that the reference letter match "strictly" the NOC description though
 

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maged_mmh said:
Specifically, I'm a technical sales solution architect (telecom networks) working for a telecom equipment vendor, if I were to chose I would've chosen 2147, the NOC customer service advised to use 6221 (technical sales) because 2147 is regulated. I can't say that the reference letter match "strictly" the NOC description though
The job title and employer definitely makes it 2147. So its a catch 22. I suggest that you should try multiple queries with NOC customer service and evaluate their replies. At times they act like a computer itself, 'garbage in garbage out" meaning their replies are a result of your questions only ,but are very ambiguous. And i also suggest that you address this to "asivad anac" also because I don't think am dexter enough to comment more on this.
 

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HI Asivad,

i have a question please help me out.
i my employer applied for lmia for me, for which i got positive decision.
my noc on my job bank add was 7218
but i cant find the same noc code on mycic account , for same position i got noc code 7303 on my express entry profile, but the my lmia letter say 7218 and i cant find the same.
i hoping to receive ita today.
will it cause any issue on to have different noc code on lmai letter and different on ee profile.
but when i google both noc individually it is for same job as i am doing which is "production supervisor in printing".

please me help out
 

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Honeyaustin said:
HI Asivad,

i have a question please help me out.
i my employer applied for lmia for me, for which i got positive decision.
my noc on my job bank add was 7218
but i cant find the same noc code on mycic account , for same position i got noc code 7303 on my express entry profile, but the my lmia letter say 7218 and i cant find the same.
i hoping to receive ita today.
will it cause any issue on to have different noc code on lmai letter and different on ee profile.
but when i google both noc individually it is for same job as i am doing which is "production supervisor in printing".

please me help out
If you read the 'Unit Group Modifications' Table on page 1117 in NOC 2011 (pdf) you will find that NOC Code 7218 doesn't exist anymore and it has been overwritten by new NOC Code 7303 and descriptors for both are also the same Supervisors, Printing and Related Occupations .

NOC Code 7218 (Old 2006)
NOC Code 7303 (New 2011)

Both are same

Thats why you don't find 7218 in the EE (new) system. Either ask your employer to get the LMIA updated to 7303 (as per latest NOC 2011) or go ahead and apply with NOC 7303 in EE but write an LoE for the LMIA.
 

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Lakhanpal.saurabh said:
The job title and employer definitely makes it 2147. So its a catch 22. I suggest that you should try multiple queries with NOC customer service and evaluate their replies. At times they act like a computer itself, 'garbage in garbage out" meaning their replies are a result of your questions only ,but are very ambiguous. And i also suggest that you address this to "asivad anac" also because I don't think am dexter enough to comment more on this.
sent them my reference letter twice already, they provided the same reply.

Asivad? any suggestions to add?