Thank you Asivad Anac

[april2014_AINP]

Hello,

This is a question for a friend of mine who is currently in the EE pool.

In the skill transferability factor (subsection: education) can someone claim points for both the clauses "With good/strong official languages proficiency and a post-secondary degree" and "With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree"?

He has a Canadian Masters + ECA of 4 years Canadian equivalent Bachelors + more than CLB 9 in all four categories of the English test + 1 year skilled Canadian work experience. Shouldn't he be getting 50 points for "With good official language proficiency (Canadian Language Benchmark Level [CLB] 7 or higher) and a post-secondary degree" and 25 points for "With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree"??? Because in his EE profile he only got 50 points for Skill Transferability Factors: Education.

Thank you.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hello Asivad,

20th draw happened and the cut off is 484. I am 480, so didn't get the ITA. I have another week to submit the OINP documents under human capitals, since I have an invite because they want it within 45 days. What should I do? Wait or do it. I really want to avoid the OINP. But my work permit is only till May 2016. So time is my concern.

Any advice?

I believe that the cutoff remained higher this time around because of the long gap between the draws. At 480, you will surely receive a 'regular' ITA much before May '16. You can safely ignore the PT from Ontario.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Dear Asivad,

you helped many people in this forum. I appreciate your help and respect your opinion.

What do you think: what are my chances of receiving ITA with score 464? Will the cut off fall again to this level?

Fairly certain that the score will come down to the 450s soon enough.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,

Just a quick question...

I have received the ITA and filling out the form now. I was wondering if it would be acceptable to include only the relevant NOC jobs (0,A,b) under the work history section, and include all the other jobs for which I don't get any points in the personal activities section?
All of my jobs are in Canada. So, I am just afraid that not including all the jobs in the work history section could be considered as misrepresentation. Please advise.

You have a been a great help to all ... a huge thanks in advance!

Absolutely! Nothing wrong with doing that.

 

[Ichowdhury]

Hi Asivad,
What are the chances of scores coming down to 400 range. What is your expert opinion on this?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad Anac,

Firstly thank you very much for doing such a great job for guiding all.
I feel lucky to be part of the time, where you are directing so well.

I had a query. I am anticipating a PN, which shall cause a jump in my score, soon.
My regular score is about 452. Looking at the latest draw and the trend prevailing, I am in dilemma.
If I get a PN and I accept it, I will have to spend at least about 1000 days of stay in that province.
On contrary, if I wait for score to drop by 450, I can move to other place of my choice.
If I get a PN, how long can I delay to accept it. By this I mean, if , the score for the cic draw is around 460, and I can delay acceptance of the PN, by certain days, then it would be great.

Can I do that, if yes, then what is the approximate time within which a PN has to be auctioned upon, either accept or rejected.

Pls guide, as always you have been doing, the great way.

Regards,
mumbai5

At 452, the temptation is always there to take a shot at PNs. But you can afford to relax especially if you aren't losing points while waiting for the next 2-3 months.

2 numbers appear to be driving EE - 1500 invites per draw & 450. CIC delays the draw to get a larger catchment and then applies the cutoff at any number equal to or above 450 which gives them 1500 applicants. With that logic, it is certainly possible that your turn will eventually arrive if you're anywhere near 450. But that is no reason to decline a PN. You do NOT have to stay in the province for 1000 days. PR is granted for the country and as a PR you are restricted by the same set of rules as any other citizen - the Canadian Constitution. And that guarantees PR and citizens freedom of mobility to work and reside anywhere across Canada. Each province can have their own conditions on the acceptance front - Ontario, for instance, allows you 30 days to accept the nomination failing which it lapses on its own.

I would recommend accepting the nomination as that guarantees an ITA in the next draw rather than hoping for the cutoff to fall to 450 levels.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hello,

This is a question for a friend of mine who is currently in the EE pool.

In the skill transferability factor (subsection: education) can someone claim points for both the clauses "With good/strong official languages proficiency and a post-secondary degree" and "With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree"?

He has a Canadian Masters + ECA of 4 years Canadian equivalent Bachelors + more than CLB 9 in all four categories of the English test + 1 year skilled Canadian work experience. Shouldn't he be getting 50 points for "With good official language proficiency (Canadian Language Benchmark Level [CLB] 7 or higher) and a post-secondary degree" and 25 points for "With Canadian work experience and a post-secondary degree"??? Because in his EE profile he only got 50 points for Skill Transferability Factors: Education.

Thank you.

For each sub-section under Skills Transferability, you can score a maximum of 50 points. In your friend's case, they got 50 points for that sub-section instead of 75.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,
What are the chances of scores coming down to 400 range. What is your expert opinion on this?

If CIC continue inviting 3000-5000 applicants per month, I don't see the cutoff falling below 445-450 in the near future and don't see it falling below 420 ever.

 

[TECC_Seneca]

I believe that the cutoff remained higher this time around because of the long gap between the draws. At 480, you will surely receive a 'regular' ITA much before May '16. You can safely ignore the PT from Ontario.

Thanks. Appreciate it again. So, Say I do ignore the invite of PT now, you think I will get another one starting 2016, since I am still 400 and up?

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Thanks. Appreciate it again. So, Say I do ignore the invite of PT now, you think I will get another one starting 2016, since I am still 400 and up?

You might get another PT but please note that this is not guaranteed! Many people with 400+ haven't got the invite yet. So, the decision is yours.

 

[TECC_Seneca]

You might get another PT but please note that this is not guaranteed! Many people with 400+ haven't got the invite yet. So, the decision is yours.

So I am going to go ahead with my PNP. I have a few questions.

1. Since I am currently working in Canada, I am going to provide my pay stubs and T4. Now here is the thing, I did my co-op while in my 1 year school at Seneca and that come under my tax. Also I did a part-time call centre job for 3 months for which I claimed TAX too. All of this included in my tax forms. However; under my EE profile, I haven't mentioned my co-op and call centre experience as they were not under the NOC 2171. I qualify CEC and my 1 year of employment is full time under 2171 with my current company I am working.

So will this matter that my tax form will have the co-op and part-time call centre tax info but my profile does not?

2. Since I will provide my pay stubs and T4 for my ongoing job, do I still need bank info from my banks, like bank statements?

3. Two of my roles have some common roles and responsibilities in my reference letters. Is this something to worry about. Well, the truth is I did have common tasks for both the roles.

Asivad and anyone else, please advice?


On the hindsight, thanks a lot for all the pouring advises. I must say this forum has been a blessing. For all the money consultants charge you, this forum is a plethora of info on the Canada immigration. Appreciate one and all for all the help!

Thanks!

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

So I am going to go ahead with my PNP. I have a few questions.

1. Since I am currently working in Canada, I am going to provide my pay stubs and T4. Now here is the thing, I did my co-op while in my 1 year school at Seneca and that come under my tax. Also I did a part-time call centre job for 3 months for which I claimed TAX too. All of this included in my tax forms. However; under my EE profile, I haven't mentioned my co-op and call centre experience as they were not under the NOC 2171. I qualify CEC and my 1 year of employment is full time under 2171 with my current company I am working.

So will this matter that my tax form will have the co-op and part-time call centre tax info but my profile does not?

2. Since I will provide my pay stubs and T4 for my ongoing job, do I still need bank info from my banks, like bank statements?

3. Two of my roles have some common roles and responsibilities in my reference letters. Is this something to worry about. Well, the truth is I did have common tasks for both the roles.

Asivad and anyone else, please advice?


On the hindsight, thanks a lot for all the pouring advises. I must say this forum has been a blessing. For all the money consultants charge you, this forum is a plethora of info on the Canada immigration. Appreciate one and all for all the help!

Thanks!

1) No I don't think that will matter. But you are obligated to disclose it in the personal history section in the Ontario application form. Generally, the jobs that you don't want to claim points for need not be included at all in the employment section. If you are concerned, write a letter of explanation and explain your situation.

2) Its better to provide bank statements for the past 6 months and a letter from the bank. Check the application guide for more details on this one.

3) This shouldn't be a problem. Your only concern should be the responsibilities matching the NOC.

Good luck!

 

[redfox05]

If CIC continue inviting 3000-5000 applicants per month, I don't see the cutoff falling below 445-450 in the near future and don't see it falling below 420 ever.

Just checking Asivad, you said "if they continue to invite 3000-5000", but CIC have been continually inviting around 1500 a month....

Im hesitant to post this note, as you are well regarded on the forum and are unlikely to get it wrong, but do clarify please.

Unless you meant "Even if CIC were to change to inviting...."
The word "continue" might be misplaced.

 

[TECC_Seneca]

1) No I don't think that will matter. But you are obligated to disclose it in the personal history section in the Ontario application form. Generally, the jobs that you don't want to claim points for need not be included at all in the employment section. If you are concerned, write a letter of explanation and explain your situation.

2) Its better to provide bank statements for the past 6 months and a letter from the bank. Check the application guide for more details on this one.

3) This shouldn't be a problem. Your only concern should be the responsibilities matching the NOC.

Good luck!

Thanks a tonne!

 

[heeru_maan]

Just checking Asivad, you said "if they continue to invite 3000-5000", but CIC have been continually inviting around 1500 a month....

Im hesitant to post this note, as you are well regarded on the forum and are unlikely to get it wrong, but do clarify please.

Unless you meant "Even if CIC were to change to inviting...."
The word "continue" might be misplaced.

Since the current trend is about 2-3 draws per month and the number of ITAs issued per draw has been about 1500, the total number of invitations would be about 3000-5000 per month.