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rhcohen2014

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sunnyinlombardy said:
My concern is how easy will be for him to find a job offer and an employer willing to do LMIA?
while it's not impossible, it is very difficult. the company needs to post the job for 30 days to prove there are no canadians who can do the job and it's expensive.

is your husband young enough for a working holiday visa? a lot of countries have programs for people 30 and under.
 

sunnyinlombardy

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rhcohen2014 said:
while it's not impossible, it is very difficult. the company needs to post the job for 30 days to prove there are no canadians who can do the job and it's expensive.

is your husband young enough for a working holiday visa? a lot of countries have programs for people 30 and under.
He's 32 and eligible because for Italy the cut off is 35. But they told me that the category has been closed as they received enough applications. Not sure what's the quota.
 

sunnyinlombardy

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sunnyinlombardy said:
He's 32 and eligible because for Italy the cut off is 35. But they told me that the category has been closed as they received enough applications. Not sure what's the quota.
Can somone please confirm this for me? If we do inland application for his PR, he can get a work permit without a job offer? I'm getting so many mixed info:(
 

rhcohen2014

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sunnyinlombardy said:
Can somone please confirm this for me? If we do inland application for his PR, he can get a work permit without a job offer? I'm getting so many mixed info:(
there is a new pilot program that is promising to issue an OWP for inland applicants in 4 months. Since this is new, and just started with Dec 22 applicants, it is still unknown if it will live up to expectations. An OWP does not come with a job offer, so the applicant will still need to look for a job and get hired. While "survival jobs" can be easier to find, remember it takes an average canadian 6-8 months to find a full time position (at least by ontario stats), so it is difficult to believe foreigners without canadian references will be able to find jobs quicker, unless they have a specific skill that requires no licensing or has networked their butt off. Also, i don't think an OWP qualifies a person for healthcare until that person actually starts working for a specific employer. Obviously that depends on the province.

RIGHT NOW it is STILL NOT a good idea for visa exempt applicant to apply inland just because of the OWP. For most applicants, depending on the visa office, by the time they get issued an OWP in "4 months" AND find a job that pays decently, they could either have landed as a PR or be close to approval. I for one don't really see much of a benefit to it...yet.
 

sunnyinlombardy

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rhcohen2014 said:
there is a new pilot program that is promising to issue an OWP for inland applicants in 4 months. Since this is new, and just started with Dec 22 applicants, it is still unknown if it will live up to expectations. An OWP does not come with a job offer, so the applicant will still need to look for a job and get hired. While "survival jobs" can be easier to find, remember it takes an average canadian 6-8 months to find a full time position (at least by ontario stats), so it is difficult to believe foreigners without canadian references will be able to find jobs quicker, unless they have a specific skill that requires no licensing or has networked their butt off. Also, i don't think an OWP qualifies a person for healthcare until that person actually starts working for a specific employer. Obviously that depends on the province.

RIGHT NOW it is STILL NOT a good idea for visa exempt applicant to apply inland just because of the OWP. For most applicants, depending on the visa office, by the time they get issued an OWP in "4 months" AND find a job that pays decently, they could either have landed as a PR or be close to approval. I for one don't really see much of a benefit to it...yet.
The problem is for his to apply for PR outland, the processing time in Italy is 18 months. If he looks for a job offer of someone willing to do LMIA, it would ideal but I'm just worried that it would be impossible. What if he applies for OWP together with inland PR application, at least we know that after 4 months or little bit longer, he'll be able to work. We have enough money to live off, four months is not an issues for us. He just doesn't want to sit around doing nothing.
 

rhcohen2014

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sunnyinlombardy said:
The problem is for his to apply for PR outland, the processing time in Italy is 18 months. If he looks for a job offer of someone willing to do LMIA, it would ideal but I'm just worried that it would be impossible. What if he applies for OWP together with inland PR application, at least we know that after 4 months or little bit longer, he'll be able to work. We have enough money to live off, four months is not an issues for us. He just doesn't want to sit around doing nothing.
first you need to confirm how long it ACTUALLY takes Italian applicants to be approved. just because CIC states it's 18 months, it is highly unlikely that is true. the stats posted online are "worst case scenarios" and are misleading. For example. The CIC website suggests the Ottawa visa office which processes US applications takes 16 months. We know this is not true because all of us on this forum have been approved in less time than that, most of us within 6 months start to finish. to confirm how long it REALLY takes for real life applicants TODAY at rome, then find the thread specific to that visa office. MOST visa offices have an average time of 8-10 months, some more, some less.

again, regarding the owp, here are my two cents in cased you missed it in my original response:
"While "survival jobs" can be easier to find, remember it takes an average canadian 6-8 months to find a full time position (at least by ontario stats), so it is difficult to believe foreigners without canadian references will be able to find jobs quicker, unless they have a specific skill that requires no licensing or has networked their butt off."

so let's say it takes an italian 8-10 months to get fully approved with an outland application just for comparison purposes. that means in 8-10 months he can land, apply for healthcare and start working legally.

when he applies inland he's gotta first GET the OWP in the stated 4 months time (again, no know knows if this will prove to be true. the first time we will see this as true is probably in March), THEN he's got to get a job offer from an employer. Like I said, "survival" jobs can be easier (ie: retail and or restaurant work), but they don't guarantee full time work or high wages. To get a PROFESSIONAL FULL TIME job, it takes time. That means in order for the visa exempt applicant to benefit from the OWP they must be able to find full time work in 4-6 months after being issued the OWP. While it's not impossible to do, it will be still be tough and financially, you will certainly want more than 4 months in reserves. There are not a lot of employers who will hold jobs for people waiting for permits. Not saying it doesn't happen, it's just really few and far between. I'm sure it can be argued the OWP gives you a jumpstart on applying to jobs and that means getting a job that much sooner, i just don't personally see that amount of time as a huge advantage. Also, remember until he gets a job, he won't be eligible for healthcare in certain provinces.

It seems you have already made the decision and are banking on your husband getting the OWP in 4 months and being able to find a job soon after that. You and your husband know what's best for your situation, I would just highly recommend double checking the ACTUAL processing time for rome before you end up stuck in a situation that may not pan out exactly as planned.
 

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I would think a lot would depend of whether you had met your residency obligations as a PR?
no did not meet the residency requirement.
Any suggestion?
 

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sunnyinlombardy said:
The problem is for his to apply for PR outland, the processing time in Italy is 18 months. If he looks for a job offer of someone willing to do LMIA, it would ideal but I'm just worried that it would be impossible. What if he applies for OWP together with inland PR application, at least we know that after 4 months or little bit longer, he'll be able to work. We have enough money to live off, four months is not an issues for us. He just doesn't want to sit around doing nothing.
Besides the advertising requirements, there are many other requirements, such as wage minimums, limitations on the number TFWs a company can have etc. And the biggest thing of all, it costs an employer $1000 just to apply for an LMIA (non-refundable even if it's refused). Do not count on your husband being able to find such an employer.

Inland is not that great. With a processing time of 2 years, it takes MORE THAN twice as long as the average app through Rome, which takes about 8-10 months. Also, if your husband has to leave Canada for an reason and is refused re-entry, the inland app is cancelled.

If you make the effort, you can get an outland app together and sent off from Italy within a few weeks.

When do you actually plan to come to Canada?
 

algrn

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algrn

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sunnyinlombardy

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canuck_in_uk said:
Besides the advertising requirements, there are many other requirements, such as wage minimums, limitations on the number TFWs a company can have etc. And the biggest thing of all, it costs an employer $1000 just to apply for an LMIA (non-refundable even if it's refused). Do not count on your husband being able to find such an employer.

Inland is not that great. With a processing time of 2 years, it takes MORE THAN twice as long as the average app through Rome, which takes about 8-10 months. Also, if your husband has to leave Canada for an reason and is refused re-entry, the inland app is cancelled.

If you make the effort, you can get an outland app together and sent off from Italy within a few weeks.

When do you actually plan to come to Canada?
I have a job offer for July 1st in Calgary for a company that I worked with before. I'd really miss out on this opportunity becase he can't get a work permit and I can't be away from him because we have a one year daughter together. We wanted to travel to Vancouver first, stay with my family for about a month and try to find an apartment in Calgary for July 01 as well. I'm just so confused and it just seems so difficult, no matter how we decide to do it. I'm not so worried how long it takes for him to get PR as much as him being able to work.
 

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Hi everybody, regrettably I need some advice regarding my sad situation.

I was recently married to a Filipina in Philippines (March 2014).

I submitted a PR application to CIC-Mississauga (June 2014) and I’ve recently been granted Sponsorship Approval.
The application is now in early second stage at the Canadian Embassy Manila (CEM).

It is with heavy heart that I must say our marriage is failing and the only solution is to end it.

The first order of business would be for me to terminate my Sponsorship via an email to CIC–M and CEM – correct?

Secondly we need to legally end the marriage. Since we weren’t married in Canada and neither is she a PR of Canada, do I need to file for a divorce in Canada? What about division of assets (i.e. my assets, since she has none)? For example am I legally bound to divide my house (matrimonial home) with her and divide any assets that we’ve accumulated together while we were married? In fact do we need a legal separation agreement before a judge will grant a divorce?

I’m sorry for the legal questions, and I realize that I need to consult a lawyer, but perhaps someone has gone through a similar situation and can shed some light on this for me.

Thanks
 

algrn

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Is there any concept like fiancee visa what they have in USA?
 

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algrn said:
Is there any concept like fiancee visa what they have in USA?
No.

Just married, commo law, or in very few cases conjugal sponsorship