Spousal sponsorship

[computergeek]

Re: newcomer --

Canadian Citizen Sponsoring U.S citizen(Living in Los Angeles).

She filed the application on Oct 17 to mississauga office .. Still we haven't heard anything from them .

I would like to know how long does it take for the whole process, so i can start to look for a job @ Toronto .

Your response most appreciated.

6 weeks before sponsor approval. That's normally the first time you hear anything from CPC-M.

10-12 months after that for approval (80% of applications) so many people get done in 6 months.

 

[Fireblade]

You can appeal even with an inland application, but the appeal process is slightly different. I learned this just recently. But I also wouldn't worry about having to appeal, because you have more than enough working in your favour to ensure a smooth application process.

It's true that they won't have health coverage, but for the first few months, neither will you...because you've been out of the country for so long. As a result, I would recommend that you look into the possibility of buying some private health insurance, at least to cover the whole family for the first 6 to 12 months until you get health coverage from the government.

As for requesting an extension - that won't be necessary because as soon as you file your application, your wife will immediately be given "implied status", meaning she can stay in Canada until a decision is made. And with a 99.9% chance of an approval (my own sense), I really wouldn't worry.

Technically, yes. But if you're going to be close to a border town (Toronto, for example), then you can just drive down to the U.S. border and do what's known as a "flagpole". You tell the immigration officer that you need your wife's passport stamped, and the whole thing will be done in a few minutes.

I would say definitely bring everyone here and do an inland application. Yes, your wife will have to wait 6 months before she can apply for a work permit, but I think that's a small price to pay for being together as a family - especially with a new baby.

Also, it's impossible to say which route will ACTUALLY get your PR faster. The timelines shown are just to give people a sense of what to expect. For all you know, your inland application might be approved much faster than an outland. It could be because of pure luck, or it could be because your application might encounter more scrutiny in Rome, or the case officer reviewing your file in Canada might be in a better mood that day - who knows.

Thanks for the speedy reply, tuyen Thanks also for the heads up regarding the ability to appeal inland, the advice on health coverage and other info & knowledge you shared.

When you mentioned that my wife would get "implied status" once the PR application was submitted, does that pertain to the inland route only or even the outland?

I'm leaning towards the inland route, for the reasons I mentioned, but would consider the outland since I could start 3-4 months sooner. Having said that, it's as you said, who can be sure which way will be faster and I'm concerned about her dependent daughter being able to attend school here come next September.

Doing a "flagpole" (love the term) is definitely an option for me, I'm in Toronto.

Great, lots of good info to chew on. Thanks for stating your high confidence in my application's processing being smooth. I already have so many worries and stress about our future, and your response made me feel better about it all

 

[Fireblade]

I'm not so sure about process being shorter these days. Inland first stage is sitting at 6 months. I've been watching march 2012 applicants landing, though the published time would be 14 months.

An appeal is only useful if you need it. From what you've described you don't sound like a high risk application.

Rome reports 5 months for 20% of applications, 6 months for 30% of applications, 7 months for 50% of applications, 11 months for 70% of applications, and 12 months for 80% of applications (for the 12 months ending 31 March 2012, so not the latest data set).

Health insurance eligibility depends upon the province. Ontario is the most stingy and requires either AIP (inland) or PR (outland) to qualify. BC, AB, SK, PEI, and NS all offer coverage to dependents living with the eligible Canadian resident although with varying requirements to demonstrate you are living together.

Generally, she would not be refused re-entry unless there was an inadmissibility issue. But yes, a BSO has the right to refuse her entry - but the BSO would have to be in a bad mood to do this without reason.

The drawbacks of us applying for their PR inland are:
Have I understood everything correctly, pros and cons?
What should we do?
My biggest concerns with the outland are 1) getting delayed due to weak financial prospects as I'm still not employed, 2) my wife having to worry about leaving Canada once here and of not being to work and her daughter attending school 3) the financial and emotional hassle arising from her and her dependent having to exit Canada and coming back once approved.
My biggest concerns with the inland are 1) the longer time for me to be approved as sponsor, meaning her daughter can't attend school 2) delaying the whole process by 6 or so more months.

I mention again that we're married for over 4 years already and we have a daughter of our own which will also be coming over but with her own Canadian citizenship.
I have to get this right, to choose the best course of action 'cause my wife is raising our baby daughter alone, without me, and future problems and separations are the last thing we'll need.


Bottom line there's no way to know which path would be better. Having your family together is certainly very important, so the sooner you get the application started, the sooner it will be done and they can all come to Canada. Hopefully others will have insight to share here as well.

Thanks to you as well, computergeek, for your quick reply 8)

Your info regarding processing times for Rome is most valuable, as is the health coverage issue by province. I'm in Toronto so from what I see, if I submit the application to CI Mississauga for outside Canada, say, in January at the earliest (have everything in order), add a couple of months to be accepted as a sponsor, and another 7-12 months for my wife & her dependent to get the PR, they'll be eligible for health coverage around end of 2012, beginning of '13. If I wait for them to come here next July, they'll be eligible once they're AIP, around the beginning of 2013. Hm, not much of a difference. I guess then that the important thing would be if and how her dependent daughter could enroll in school next September.

Thanks so much for the info, much appreciated! You guys are not only giving me valuable advice, I already feel I have people that care supporting me

 

[Linda.raftl]

Hi Guys,

I would have another important question...We have to translate and certify copies of a couple of documents. As you might know, each document that will be translated has to be accompanied by an affidavit of the translator. My question is whether each translated document needs to have this affidavit or if we can provide 1 affidavit for all the translations providing that all documents have been translated by 1 translator?

Thanks a lot for your help!!!

Linda

 

[parker24]

Re: newcomer --

Canadian Citizen Sponsoring U.S citizen(Living in Los Angeles).

She filed the application on Oct 17 to mississauga office .. Still we haven't heard anything from them .

I would like to know how long does it take for the whole process, so i can start to look for a job @ Toronto .

Your response most appreciated.

It can take up to a year. (on average)

 

[Victorswife]

Hi Guys,

I would have another important question...We have to translate and certify copies of a couple of documents. As you might know, each document that will be translated has to be accompanied by an affidavit of the translator. My question is whether each translated document needs to have this affidavit or if we can provide 1 affidavit for all the translations providing that all documents have been translated by 1 translator?

Thanks a lot for your help!!!

Linda

Hi Linda, I also had to translate documents and I believe that each page had its own affidavit. Be sure to find a translation company that is recognised by CIC. They will know what to do.

 

[WaterDad]

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomers/before-border.asp

I had read that earlier but it doesn't say either.

I just emailed the Canadian Border Service Agency to get their take on it.

 

[Serenity482]

So we send our Application at the end of september to vegreville, but haven´t heard anything yet. Do we get a mail if the sponsor is accepted or via email?

 

[computergeek]

So we send our Application at the end of september to Agreville, but haven´t heard anything yet. Do we get a mail if the sponsor is accepted or via email?

Oh, I wouldn't expect you to hear anything until February 2013. It seems that for those who do receive AOR, it's 4-6 weeks before their file is approved for AIP. In an ideal situation you would hear from them just four times:

- When they acknowledge receipt of your application (AOR)
- When they grant you AIP (Stage 1)
- When they grant you PR (Stage 2)
- When they tell you when and where to show up for your landing interview (this is where you formally become a "permanent resident")

It's a maddening process.

 

[viv123_99_2000]

Hello Everyone,

I got my PR visa stamped and i am doing landing next week( visa will expire in 2 month).My marriage is after a month.I will do my landing go back to india and then come to canada permanently.i plan to sponsor my wife after coming back to canada so i have time to settle down in canada before my wife comes(mayeb after a year).Can i do that? or is there anything that i need to do.Will Appreciate your advice

Thanks & Regards,

John

 

[tuyen]

When you mentioned that my wife would get "implied status" once the PR application was submitted, does that pertain to the inland route only or even the outland?

Inland only. If she's in Canada when the sponsorship application is filed, she automatically gets the opportunity to stay until a decision is made. That's why (I believe) it's called "implied status" because it implies/assumes that the applicant will be given permanent residency after the application is processed.

The implied status tends to be much more valuable for people who are in Canada from countries that require visas. But since Canada doesn't require Greek visitors to get a visa, it allows her to come into Canada anytime. However, if she was from somewhere like Russia and she received implied status, it would be a huge relief because she wouldn't always have to go through the ordeal of applying for a visa, having to prove she will return to her home country, having to prove she has enough money to support herself during her visit, running around getting all the necessary paperwork, paying the various fees, and hoping it gets approved.

Great, lots of good info to chew on. Thanks for stating your high confidence in my application's processing being smooth. I already have so many worries and stress about our future, and your response made me feel better about it all

Glad I could be of some help.
Most applications are scrutinized for fake marriages. You obviously have more than enough evidence in that regard, and it's not like you suddenly went to Greece last month, met a girl in a bar, and she convinced you to get married just so she can come to Canada. You've been living there a long time, you've been married a handful of years, you already have a child with her, and you didn't even try sponsoring her until years after your marriage. So assuming that she and her daughter are healthy, there's no reason to think that anything would stand in your way.

 

[parker24]

Hello Everyone,

I got my PR visa stamped and i am doing landing next week( visa will expire in 2 month).My marriage is after a month.I will do my landing go back to india and then come to canada permanently.i plan to sponsor my wife after coming back to canada so i have time to settle down in canada before my wife comes(mayeb after a year).Can i do that? or is there anything that i need to do.Will Appreciate your advice

Thanks & Regards,

John

You need to tell them BEFORE you land that you have a wife you want to sponsor. If you do not do this, you will not be able to sponsor her EVER plus you can be deported for misrepresentation to CIC.

 

[viv123_99_2000]

Hi Parker,

I think you did not read clearly my post.i said i will land first then come back to india and then get married .After that i will go back to canada permanently.when i land in canada i will be unmarried.

 

[computergeek]

I think you did not read clearly my post.i said i will land first then come back to india and then get married .After that i will go back to canada permanently.when i land in canada i will be unmarried.

Then you are fine.

 

[BeccaShar]

international money order or bank note

Hi there, I'm ready to make payment, from the middle east and send it with my application..

What do I put on the bank note, aside from 'payable to the reciever general of canada'.?

What do they mean when they say the name and financial istitution?
"clearly indicate name, street address and account number of the financial institution in Canada where it may be cashed.
Note: Do not provide a post office box as anaddress"
I was at the bank and they also had no idea.

Thanks










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also says "◦Certified cheques, bank drafts and money orders issued by a bank located outside of Canada must clearly indicate the complete address and account number of the corresponding bank in Canada which will cash the instrument."