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Spousal sponsorship

MilesAway

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prvc said:
Thanks.. It was quite confusing at first. I was just seeking for clarification. But thanks! Big help!
Some people have answered the question as if they were asking about the entire period of the relationship. I don't think it caused them any delays in the application.
 

dimigago

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hello people :D
Does anybody have experience with traveling out of Canada right after landing interview without receiving PR card?
Do you think it is possible to travel without PR card and somebody sending it via post when it arrives?
 

wildemam

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Hello everyone, I've been reading through this large, extensively useful thread. However, it is too huge to be able to cover.

I need your advice please. I am about to get married in Egypt. I knew my fiancee for a long time and her brother is my friend since childhood. We went to the same schools. I came to Canada in 2013 and became a PR in April 2016.

However, we have no evidence that we had correspondence until August 2016. She just graduated in 2015.

In August 2016 I went on a holiday to Egypt to have an engagement. I have enough evidence that it is not fake, Lots of photos with family and with proper formal clothing for the ceremony. I have also Photos of me with her and our siblings in outings.

I intend to get married in December 2016. I will be able to spend a month in Egypt before having to go back to Canada for my work. We are planning a traditional ceremony with all of our families and friends attending. We will also have several outings and will have photos in several outings.

I plan to submit our application around March 2017.

I need your advice on what to do so that we avoid any complications with our sponsorship and PR applications.

thanks,
 

xtreemboarder

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Jul 2, 2015
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Hey guys

I've been following the forum for quite a while because I've been sort of preparing myself for the process of sponsoring my common law partner.

I started filling out all the forms, following the guides on CIC's site. They've been very helpful but I still came across a few items I hope someone can shed some light on for me so I don't make a foolish mistake and delay my application.

To provide a brief summary, my partner and I are living in Israel. We've been in a relationship for two years now but cohabiting an apartment for 1 year. We are now considered common law and want to move back to Toronto. We do not have any children, not yet at least.

My inquiries are:

1. Our supporting documents for our common law relationship includes lease agreement, shared bank account and credit card, utility bills, property tax bills, internet and cell phone bills. We have plenty of receipts for grocery purchases, movie ticket stubs, restaurant receipts, etc. These are all in Hebrew. I'm more than happy to have the important ones (such as the apartment lease and even some utility bills) translated and notarized by a qualified individual, is it safe to do translations for receipts and other things ourselves? We would have a number of bank statements and utility bills and to translate these things could cost quite a lot.

2. We're going to use affidavits from friends and family members contesting to our relationship. Is it ok to submit letters with contact information from various individuals or does it really need to be an affidavit? How many would be recommended? Should we include friends and family from her side who are living in Israel or should we focus more on my side of the family who are all in Canada or are Canadian?

3. Document IMM5409 Statutory Declaration of Common Law union includes a "Solemn Declaration" at the bottom. Should I seek a lawyer in Israel that is licensed to practice law in Canada as well or could this be any Notary Public, even an Israeli one?

4. Page 12 of the Part 3 Information Guide for Middle East includes information regarding travel history, education & employment, military service, etc. Does this apply to all applicants from this region? Some of the other pages include items only for applicants from Afghanistan, Abu Dhabi, etc. This one does not have any exclusions. Fill it out to be safe? The same information appears on form IMM5669 Schedule A - Background and Declaration.

5. Is it safe to exclude documents that don't apply to us? Such as Additional Dependent Declaration since we don't have any kids?

I think that's it for now. Any help is welcome and appreciated. Thank you in advance.
 

Engineered_by_God

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prvc said:
Thanks! Can I ask one more?

My husband and I have been in a relationship for 5 years before we got married. 3 years and 6 mos of that were mostly LDR. Now I'm having a hard time proving the relationship as we don't have anymore proof of communication for our LDR years. At the time, I wasn't thinking I'd come to Canada because I was residing in the US previously so I wasn't really saving conversations, plus I've upgraded my phone so all previous convo were lost. And when we talked about our future, we decided that I should move to Canada as it was much faster for us be together there. Now, would I raise a red flag because of this? My concern was from 2012 to 2015, definitely we don't have enough proof to say that the relationship was continuous. After leaving the PI in 2012, we met the first time again in Oct. 2015 and the second time in January 2016, both when he visited me in the USA. He moved to Canada in 2014. Then we got married this year in June in PI. Thanks for the help. Any input or insight will be appreciated. Thanks a lot!
I suggest you make a timeline of your love story, we did this. We started from 2002 during our college years and till this date. We been together for 10yrs and 2yrs (LDR) as bf and gf. We got married in 2015 and LDR again for almost 1 year. We didnt send any conversations proof because our files are a bit bulky and we thought in the officers point of view,its a bit tiring reading convos,if I'm an officer I wanted to read a love story time line, saves a lot of time for me. So our time line was, feb 2016 sent app, aor1 and SA March 2016, then we received PPR oct 4:D no additional documents. We together with my spouse agreed on the concept KISS( Keep it Simple Stupid), both of us are in to programming.Just pray ;)
 

icy116

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prvc said:
Thanks! Can I ask one more?

My husband and I have been in a relationship for 5 years before we got married. 3 years and 6 mos of that were mostly LDR. Now I'm having a hard time proving the relationship as we don't have anymore proof of communication for our LDR years. At the time, I wasn't thinking I'd come to Canada because I was residing in the US previously so I wasn't really saving conversations, plus I've upgraded my phone so all previous convo were lost. And when we talked about our future, we decided that I should move to Canada as it was much faster for us be together there. Now, would I raise a red flag because of this? My concern was from 2012 to 2015, definitely we don't have enough proof to say that the relationship was continuous. After leaving the PI in 2012, we met the first time again in Oct. 2015 and the second time in January 2016, both when he visited me in the USA. He moved to Canada in 2014. Then we got married this year in June in PI. Thanks for the help. Any input or insight will be appreciated. Thanks a lot!
Hi! Don't be so worried..everything will go smoothly. Based on our app, WE DID not submit anything about proof of communication like fb messages, skype or facebook posts even call logs..what I did is I made a timeline from the time we were together (1 pic per year) until we got married..We met 2005 then became couple 2007 then he moved to Canada on 2014..Just provide pictures of you two with friends as well (if possible). :D
 

crazy D

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prvc said:
Thanks a lot for the advice. I am very disorganized at this moment. Haha. I'll do my best to keep it in order. It's actually hard on my part because it feels like I'm doing this all by myself. My hubby's too busy at work and the time difference isn't helping either. Haha. It's true that this process will bring the best and worst in each of us. Haha. Praying for a positive outcome. Thanks again.
Been there sis, trust me not that easy especially I'm also working also so have to sneak while doing work and preparing all docs. When I sent to my husband all he did was signed and cut some label for our pictures which I already print out lol , he doesn't even like to highlight message coz told him to highlight Important part. Especially double checking, even I already checked it many times Still Something missing. ;D
It's good to have your app organized as you can. What I did, I made table of contents and had separate folders for forms and requirement and relationship proof.

Good luck!
 

r2rlanes

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Hi guys, we got an update on eCAS today, our application was submitted in Mississauga, our VO is in Manila. The update in eCAS says, "Medical results have been received", does it mean anything other than what it says? Who received the result, Mississauga office or Manila office? Any idea/s or comment/s or reaction/s would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!:)
 

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You can photo copy 4 pictures to a page and label underneath each picture and date, who is in it where it was taken and the occasion.
 

haz2016

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Re: Spousal sponsorship - application now is VO


When a PR holder is approved as a sponsor and the application is in stage 2 at the visa office, if the sponsor had to be outside Canada for whatever reason during the processing, is that okay? I mean is there a point of time when they come back to the sponsor to check his existence in Canada before they issue the immigration visa for the spouse?

I know that the general rule is that you need to be in Canada with allowed travel, but in case if the sponsor needs to be outside Canada, would that jeopardize the whole process?

thanks
 

Ponga

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Re: Spousal sponsorship - application now is VO

haz2016 said:
When a PR holder is approved as a sponsor and the application is in stage 2 at the visa office, if the sponsor had to be outside Canada for whatever reason during the processing, is that okay? I mean is there a point of time when they come back to the sponsor to check his existence in Canada before they issue the immigration visa for the spouse?

I know that the general rule is that you need to be in Canada with allowed travel, but in case if the sponsor needs to be outside Canada, would that jeopardize the whole process?

thanks
A PR holder, sponsor, is required to remain in Canada during the entire process. A Canadian citizen, sponsor, does not have that same restriction.

Having said that...I imagine a short trip (perhaps a week or so) outside of Canada might not be an issue.
 

Ponga

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Re: Spousal sponsorship - application now is VO

prvc said:
How about a month, will that be an issue? My hubby is already booked to visit me for a month this coming December. Our app will be filed at the end of October. Thanks.
It certainly can be an issue. Unfortunately, you won't know until (and unless) the visa officer informs you of the breach.
 

Ponga

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prvc said:
How about a month, will that be an issue? My hubby is already booked to visit me for a month this coming December. Our app will be filed at the end of October. Thanks.
Wow! Here's a thread from exactly one year ago, where this very issue was discussed:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/leave-canada-for-a-month-while-spouse-sponsorship-is-in-process-t356758.0.html
 

Ponga

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prvc said:
Where can I please find more information about this breach you just mentioned? We don't have any idea about it and we are pretty ignorant to be honest regarding that. We thought it was okay for him to leave Canada temporarily for a vacation. So if that is the case we should just postpone sending the application until he goes back to Canada? Thank you so much.
In my opinion, that's a much better plan. Just be sure to use the latest version of all of the forms, since it's possible that one (or more) will have been updated by CIC when you're ready to apply.
 

Ponga

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prvc said:
Thanks for the link of that thread you shared. Funny how the OP and I had the same issue at the exact same date. :) I read the whole thing and found out that someone from this forum called the immigration and was advised that it was fine to travel for a month. We're just going to give them a call to clarify this matter. But I'm sure glad I came across this issue. Thanks, Ponga!
Almost spooky that it was exactly one year ago! :eek:

Calling CIC won't really give you the answer that you need. The Call Centre is notorious for giving information that is not always accurate...especially when it comes to something like this.

The underlying problem, is that CIC states that `short trips' outside of Canada are ok, but...they don't define what they deem to be a short trip; it's the personal discretion of the visa officer that handles your PR file to decide. If s/he thinks that a one month trip was too long, s/he can refuse the application.