Oct 11 applicant received eligibility passed yesterday. Today ECAS changed to DM on both sides (was IN PROCESS on both sides yesterday). Sponsor never got SA. Same thing happened to a few people, it seems normal these days that you don't get SA. Check your ECAS tomorrow for DM. Good luck!
Spousal Sponsorship in-land Applications 2017 timeline and updates
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CanadaFuture93
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- Jul 23, 2017
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- AOR Received.
- 27-11-2017
- Med's Request
- 12-04-2018
- Med's Done....
- 26-04-2018
I am also Sept 26th applicant and had decision made on both sides on ecas for more than a month. Same when I call (and even my MP office called) and because it is still before the 12 months, their answer is I have to wait.... I am desperate lol
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First of all, I never said they weren’t doing an amazing job for processing majority of the application under 12 months time. I had only said that those whose applications were deemed as marriage of convenience(red flag) and were out of status, were transferred for further assessment and they formed part of the 20% that must exceed the 12 months time . And as many that has gone through that stage, they either asked them for additional documents(the same way they asked those they approved within the 12 months), or for some, they just approved them and send them a landing interview after some months( time wasting).
Second of all, your premise to the conclusion that I was an illegal alien is faulty. And your assertion that everyone who is out of status would have come into your country illegally is biased. Many of us missed our status based on wrong calculations and misinformations, and it doesn’t seem like a big deal going out of the country, but for our spouses, and families here. Hence, the inland application.
Third of all, there are conditions of violations that will warrant a pick up, deportation and a ban as you have alleged. So, stop your situational comparisons on a wrong premises.
Yes! an avenue to file for inland spousal sponsorship, and that is applicable anywhere in the world even in the US. If not inland, it can be outland. But no where in the world a citizen or PR holder will be denied to file his/her spouse.
So, as much as I will agree with you that due dilligence is paramount to them, but will not withdraw my assertion that patient test( time wasting) is also one its measures. Especially if you were out of status.
Your intervention does not add up.
First of all, I never said they weren’t doing an amazing job for processing majority of the application under 12 months time. I had only said that those whose applications were deemed as marriage of convenience(red flag) and were out of status, were transferred for further assessment and they formed part of the 20% that must exceed the 12 months time . And as many that has gone through that stage, they either asked them for additional documents(the same way they asked those they approved within the 12 months), or for some, they just approved them and send them a landing interview after some months( time wasting).
Second of all, your premise to the conclusion that I was an illegal alien is faulty. And your assertion that everyone who is out of status would have come into your country illegally is biased. Many of us missed our status based on wrong calculations and misinformations, and it doesn’t seem like a big deal going out of the country, but for our spouses, and families here. Hence, the inland application.
Third of all, there are conditions of violations that will warrant a pick up, deportation and a ban as you have alleged. So, stop your situational comparisons on a wrong premises.
Yes! an avenue to file for inland spousal sponsorship, and that is applicable anywhere in the world even in the US. If not inland, it can be outland. But no where in the world a citizen or PR holder will be denied to file his/her spouse.
So, as much as I will agree with you that due dilligence is paramount to them, but will not withdraw my assertion that patient test( time wasting) is also one its measures. Especially if you were out of status.
Seriously, how does anyone find themselves out of status? It's not like failing to return a library book on time. It's extremely generous that they treat out of status cases with an open mind. I hope you all make it. But this must be the nicest country in the world.
PS i dont want to put off out of status people posting. It must be frustrating waiting, and no doubt it helps to vent. Just if you were a friend of mine I would tell you to get your ish together. Be patient and you'll have a chance for a fresh start. Then in future take control of your obligations!
Seriously.
I mean, people go out of status for a lot of reasons. I've had family members and known other people who, at one point or another, illegally worked in other countries in order to support their families. Some of them ran from war, some couldn't bear to remain in their countries where unemployment was through the roof and there was no perspective for anything better in the future. I get how that happens and that no one likes being in that perpetual state of fear and uncertainty. You do it because you see no other viable option and you have people depending on you to figure something out. And yet I've never known anyone in this situation who felt like the countries in question owed them anything. They kept their heads down, kept out of trouble, and either returned to their countries as soon as they could or waited til some sort of an immigration stream opened up for them. For which they were then grateful.
There's a lot of people all over the forum that have been out of status for months or years, knowingly, and think that Canada should rush to their aid and that it actually owes them anything. The fact that there's a legal immigration stream open through which people who have been in the country illegally can obtain not just temporary, but permanent legal status is amazing. Especially since it involves no penalties or waiting periods or anything like that.
Hello everyone,
My spouse came to Canada through open work permit while i was in Canada on Post graduate work permit and PR application was under processing.
Now i got my PR, i want to sponsor my spouse though Inland spousal sponsorship.
My spouse open work permit will expire 1st nov 2018.
So i was thinking to extend work permit along with PR application.
So if i apply now, what will my spouse status after work permit expires and sponsorship file is already submitted.
Also what are required supporting docs for open work permit.
Thanks
My spouse came to Canada through open work permit while i was in Canada on Post graduate work permit and PR application was under processing.
Now i got my PR, i want to sponsor my spouse though Inland spousal sponsorship.
My spouse open work permit will expire 1st nov 2018.
So i was thinking to extend work permit along with PR application.
So if i apply now, what will my spouse status after work permit expires and sponsorship file is already submitted.
Also what are required supporting docs for open work permit.
Thanks
Was your spouse already your spouse (or did you reach the common-law status) when you landed as a PR?
Yes, so many reasons why people go out of status. Not everyone who is out of status came into the country illegally, or was here as a refugee claimant.
So many came on different temporary resident visas I.e IEC, Study visa, tourist visas, Work permits e.t.c. And they missed their status based on different personal circumstances.
Some as a result of planning whether or not to settle with their family in Canada, hence they didn’t take cognizance of the 90 days grace period. Or didn’t even know about it.
Some as a student who were misinformed, and so they miss the grace period to apply for a work permit after graduating from school. And so, they resort to sponsorship with their spouse or Common Law
Some did apply to restore their status and was denied restoration.
Some as a result of their immigration lawyers or consultant inefficiency.
Some didn’t get the transition from one programme to another right. And so they became out of status.
And so on...
Yes, and as always, ignorance isn't an excuse. You can't say, "Well, officer, I didn't know it was illegal to kill a person, thus I should now walk free even though I've killed someone."
Same thing here. Ultimately, none of the reasons listed means a person is entitled to stay not just in Canada, but any other country they're in while not being a citizen or permanent resident. That's the whole point. It's about feeling entitled to things one isn't actually entitled to. And about feeling lucky and grateful that these mistakes, that rest solely on the shoulders of the people who are out of status, are able to be rectified quite easily and without penalties.
Either directly or indirectly, there are penalties for being out of status. Waiting forever for AIP before they will approve an open work permit for an applicant on spousal sponsorship route is enough penalty. You don’t want to experience being out of work, or not being able to work for almost a year waiting for Approvel in principle before they will approve your open work permit.
And the longer the decision made or the approval in principle tarries, the longer the penalty.
Only those who have experienced it can tell you the pain, and how much a penalty is that.
Secondly, if being out of status for a very long time , dealing with CBSA is not an adventure for free diamonds.
Some of the the route entitle the applicant to stay, if transitions are managed squarely. But sometimes a lot of people were ignorant, or didn’t get a hoot of a forum like this on time, where they can have up to date info, and who cannot afford to pay the exorbitant prices charged by consultants, succeed missing their status honourably with a view to rectifying it when the need arises.
Nobody wants to celebrate being out of status, nor is expecting a medal from same, either ignorantly or intentionally.
But when it happens, it happens, and you are either left to sink all your investment in the process, or swim with it. It would be unfair to say that an applicant is not entitled to stay with his family because he is out of status based on a perceived, or an irregular ignorance of a how a system works.
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Why would they be entitled? I don't follow. Because they have family in this or that country? That really doesn't mean anything. It doesn't entitle you to anything. It's not how it works.
There's a system in place, there are established rules and procedures. If you don't follow them, your case gets delayed. It's simple and it makes sense. And it's really the least of things that could happen given the fact you've broken said rules.
Don't get me wrong, I understand why people overstay and I understand it's not easy to deal with it and its consequences. It sucks. I get that. I'm merely challenging the notion that people who break immigration rules and laws in this country and still get a chance to rectify it and establish a legal status should feel entitled to the point of excessive complaining and comparing themselves to the thousands of people who didn't overstay and followed all the rules.
Anyway, this is getting to be a bit pointless. I feel for you and everyone in your situation. Like I said, I've known quite a few people who have done the same. I just think that people should focus on the bright side and realize that it could be much worse (being barred from entering the country for a number of months or years, being deported, having the application outright refused) than having the application delayed by several months. Heck, that can happen even with normal applications that comply with all the requirements, not to mention these.
As much as I respect your intervention, and I am clearly in support of your view that there is a system in place, and when broken there should be a penalty for same.
But for the families, one of the core values of the immigration process is uniting families, and that has been spelt consistently like the word “YES”.
I didn’t for once argue against the penalty for being out of status, I was only explaining to someone who asked - “what happened when the applications are transferred for further assessment?. And I said, When it seems that being out of status had propitiated a quick sponsorship application( assumed marriage of convenience), the application will be delayed(a penalty) on the grounds of being transferred.
And someone else commented my stand on the delay as a fake news, with a view to ascribe unintelligence to people who were or are out of status. Hence, my vituperations.
Anyways, thanks for your good contributions and will continue to employ as many of you to continue help out the newbies with good informations on the platform, and off the platform on how the system works, and how to maintain a regular status.
No in status and AIP given as well as sponsorship approval with Decision Made for the sponsor. It's not been transferred it's just sitting in limbo until they get yet another paper which wasn't listed in the guide, and they could have asked for at any time during the last year.
You're very right it does cause stress and upset. We rarely fight or argue but since last week it's been a bit of a rare short tempered week here.
Someone on another board suggested my lawyer should have known to get this form in the first place but he's not accepting responsibility either. I'm not sure tbh, I think it really is a combination of the two, if CIC was working on our file like they were supposed to, then getting another document would have been annoying, but not upsetting now that its past the 12 month mark. I am disappointed in my lawyer as his attitude is oh well, they don't usually get things done in 12 months anyway, and yet again if we let them then this is what happens ! They get away with it I don't want to be in the 20% that they don't care about because they met the 80%.
If you're out if status whats a good way to get you back in ... oh maybe finishing your application, seems pretty simple really.