Sponsoring Parents in 2015

[screech339]

Went to read the thread - you're right, she did have an NOA for 2010 but did not meet the limit. Still, the CIC agent advised her not to withdraw and we don't really know how the officer who reviewed her application would have dealt with it, given that she was accepted in the cap and she would qualify for the 3 prior years when the application is finally reviewed. In the end, in some cases, we really cannot say how each individual officer will treat a particular case, just ask for corrected documents with a time restriction or reject outright. By then with all the Supreme Court cases on discrimination, their attitude may change. We can just hope for the best.

It doesn't matter if she qualifies for 3 years lico when the application reopens for review. She must meet the lico 3 taxation years prior to application submittal along with future lico during the entire process until parents lands as PR. If Ninaroy decided to keep the application in, she still had to meet the 2010 lico requirement. She never made it. It doesn't matter how long the process the application was progressed along. Just before the parents be issued CoPR, CIC will likely request updated option C printouts for all the years the parents were waiting. Once CIC review the option C printout and see that she missed one year lico requirements including the 2010 lico requirement, they will likely deny the parents PR. Something Ninaroy couldn't take a chance on.

 

[dbss]

Hi

Posting the question here because you all have already applied and would have better knowledge. I would be applying in 2016 and have the following questions:

In IMM5768E, question 8, it says enter minimum necessary income. The question is the MNI for which year? Since I am applying in 2016, hence MNI's will need to be shown for 2012-2013-2014. The worry that I have is that for the year of 2012, my income just crossed the income required for 2 people which was $36,637 and my income was $37000.

Does this mean I am ineligible because it says in question 9 that the income needs to be more than the income in question 8 and question 8 MNI for 2014 is $38,272 and my income for 2012 was $37000.

Thanks for reading and hope someone can reply.

 

[Cocoa]

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/parent-sponsorship-apllication-returned-t270182.0.html

Here is a thread of an 2014 PGP application being returned due to wrong option C tax year, despite getting accepted in the 2014 cap. This can be a warning to those who got accepted in the cap but doesn't follow the checklist as listed. In this thread, the applicant submitted the option C printout for the wrong tax year.

CIC was only asking to send the Option C for the right tax year. The application is not rejected yet. And it will not be rejected by this solo reason. If the applicant re-submitted what CIC asked, it still can be approved. CIC asked, that means you can correct the mistakes. Or the application would be rejected right away without asking any additional documents.

 

[screech339]

CIC was only asking to send the Option C for the right tax year. The application is not rejected yet. And it will not be rejected by this solo reason. If the applicant re-submitted what CIC asked, it still can be approved. CIC asked, that means you can correct the mistakes. Or the application would be rejected right away without asking any additional documents.

I agree that the circumstances I posted is a little difference from the current PGP as it occurred before the new change. However are you saying CIC should be able to keep the application going because someone didn't meet the LICO requirement qualification in the first place, or they submitted scanned signatures instead of original signatures or didn't follow the checklist to the letter after going through the application with a fine tooth comb all because the application got accepted in the cap.

Screech339

 

[Cocoa]

I agree that the circumstances I posted is a little difference from the current PGP as it occurred before the new change. However are you saying CIC should be able to keep the application going because someone didn't meet the LICO requirement qualification in the first place, or they submitted scanned signatures instead of original signatures or didn't follow the checklist to the letter after going through the application with a fine tooth comb all because the application got accepted in the cap.

Screech339

You have two questions here.
Meeting the LICO and scanned signatures.
Meeting the LICO is very important for the new submitters 2014 and 2015. But I am not sure about all three year term. In 2014, there was only one box to say if you don't meet LICO, you don't need to sumbit. I assumed that box was for 2012. So if somebody was not meeting LICO for 2010 and 2011, there might still be the chance to get in since the recent year income is always the most important factor. Three year term is for the stability checking.
But for 2015 applicants, there were 3 boxes to put all three years LICO and it says if you don't meet them, then don't apply. So there is a great chance that the applications would get rejected if you have only one year that didn't meet the LICO for that year. But there is still possibility that CIC will look into the most recent years when they start to process the sponsorship qualifications.
Scanned signatures are the tricky ones. My personal opinion is that CIC will not care about that. Signatures basically are for avoiding the forgery. If somebody said that was my signature, how could anybody dispute it? For online visiting application, even signatures are not needed. Your email, your account, scanned supporting docments are the prove that it was your willing.

Just my two cents.

 

[screech339]

You have two questions here.
Meeting the LICO and scanned signatures.
Meeting the LICO is very important for the new submitters 2014 and 2015. But I am not sure about all three year term. In 2014, there was only one box to say if you don't meet LICO, you don't need to sumbit. I assumed that box was for 2012. So if somebody was not meeting LICO for 2010 and 2011, there might still be the chance to get in since the recent year income is always the most important factor. Three year term is for the stability checking.
But for 2015 applicants, there were 3 boxes to put all three years LICO and it says if you don't meet them, then don't apply. So there is a great chance that the applications would get rejected if you have only one year that didn't meet the LICO for that year. But there is still possibility that CIC will look into the most recent years when they start to process the sponsorship qualifications.
Scanned signatures are the tricky ones. My personal opinion is that CIC will not care about that. Signatures basically are for avoiding the forgery. If somebody said that was my signature, how could anybody dispute it? For online visiting application, even signatures are not needed. Your email, your account, scanned supporting docments are the prove that it was your willing.

Just my two cents.

Scanned application form with signature scanned (photocopies application) is not an original application form. So again not compiling with the checklist.

If you want to chance your life or your parent's life that your parent PR application won't get returned over scanned signature application and or not meeting all LICO as specified in the 2014 PGP guideline and checklist, by all means go ahead. Not stopping you. If your application did get returned dued to scanned signatures or not meeting lico because of one check box instead of 3, you got no one to blame but yourself.

The thing is that you won't know for sure if your application get returned or accepted until probably 2-3 years after application is submitted when they go through it with a fine tooth comb. Are you willing to chance a 2-3 year delay and having to redo the application once again.

 

[Cocoa]

Scanned application form with signature scanned (photocopies application) is not an original application form. So again not compiling with the checklist.

If you want to chance your life or your parent's life that your parent PR application won't get returned over scanned signature application and or not meeting all LICO as specified in the 2014 PGP guideline and checklist, by all means go ahead. Not stopping you. If your application did get returned dued to scanned signatures or not meeting lico because of one check box instead of 3, you got no one to blame but yourself.

The thing is that you won't know for sure if your application get returned or accepted until probably 2-3 years after application is submitted when they go through it with a fine tooth comb. Are you willing to chance a 2-3 year delay and having to redo the application once again.

I don't have any problems you mentioned above. I don't even agreen with scanned signatures no matter what. It's just about the principles that signatures should be signed instead of scanned. I was talking about the possiblities.
We don't really know how they process, all is guessing.

BTW, there weren't 3 boxes in 2014 form, only one box.

 

[Danka]

Has anyone in this group (who had their credit card charged) received any kind of confirmation / online status update from CIC yet? - My credit card was charged on the 28th of Jan, but haven't heard anything official from them yet.

 

[Ccie18614]

Has anyone in this group (who had their credit card charged) received any kind of confirmation / online status update from CIC yet? - My credit card was charged on the 28th of Jan, but haven't heard anything official from them yet.

nothing yet, i was chargedon Jan 9th.

 

[741953]

Has anyone in this group (who had their credit card charged) received any kind of confirmation / online status update from CIC yet? - My credit card was charged on the 28th of Jan, but haven't heard anything official from them yet.

It's too soon to ask buddy.
For 2014 batch, they received confirmation letter around June.
Be patient

 

[Rossei]

Has anyone in this group (who had their credit card charged) received any kind of confirmation / online status update from CIC yet? - My credit card was charged on the 28th of Jan, but haven't heard anything official from them yet.

I guess you don't follow the spreadsheet (link is in my signature). But I added you from very beginning and have just updated that your CC had been charged.

FYI:
Timeline - Stage1 is up to the payment acceptance point.
Timeline - Stage2 which is still not visible, will be for those whose payment got accepted and will go to later stages.
Please, use 'New Entry' sheet to add/update any of your info.

 

[jhutti]

So far the “money order” payment that I have given on my 2nd Jan application is not encashed.
The application reaches at 1.24 pm as per Purolator on 2nd Jan. The application has not get returned so far. Not sure what to make of it.
My second application using credit card payment option reached on 6th Jan. Offcource It have no chance.
Meanwhile by sibling get PR in record 6 months (last month) under FSW 2014 program.

At the moment all the children(3) of my parents are either Canadian citizens or Canadian PR.
Can I also try apply PR under humanitarian mode since they are left alone with no one to look after?

 

[screech339]

So far the “money order” payment that I have given on my 2nd Jan application is not encashed.
The application reaches at 1.24 pm as per Purolator on 2nd Jan. The application has not get returned so far. Not sure what to make of it.
My second application using credit card payment option reached on 6th Jan. Offcource It have no chance.
Meanwhile by sibling get PR in record 6 months (last month) under FSW 2014 program.

At the moment all the children(3) of my parents are either Canadian citizens or Canadian PR.
Can I also try apply PR under humanitarian mode since they are left alone with no one to look after?

H&C PR route for parents will not likely to succeed. H&C are usually reserved for those whose lives are in danger in the home country. Using "parents are living alone" excuse is not a good enough reason to grant Parents PR. If this was the case, everyone will be sponsoring their lone parents through H&C reasons. Since your sibling's are either PR or Canadian, CIC could say "the Canadian siblings can leave Canada to look after the parents since they can re-enter Canada at any time".

 

[Cocoa]

So far the “money order” payment that I have given on my 2nd Jan application is not encashed.
The application reaches at 1.24 pm as per Purolator on 2nd Jan. The application has not get returned so far. Not sure what to make of it.
My second application using credit card payment option reached on 6th Jan. Offcource It have no chance.
Meanwhile by sibling get PR in record 6 months (last month) under FSW 2014 program.

At the moment all the children(3) of my parents are either Canadian citizens or Canadian PR.
Can I also try apply PR under humanitarian mode since they are left alone with no one to look after?

Money order will get returned. CIC required "certified check". They are two different things. Last year it happened to many people who sent in money order or draft.

 

[jhutti]

Money order will get returned. CIC required "certified check". They are the different things. Last year it happened to many people who sent in money order or draft.

Can you please point me to forum post where people’s application was return last year due to such issue.