Sponsoring Parents in 2015

[polaroffer]

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2013/2013-10-29a.asp

PGP admission levels at 25,000 in 2013 and approximately 20,000 per year in 2014 and 2015.

By 2015 they expect backlog of 40K still, so at 20K per year backlog should be cleared sometime in 2017, at which point they should begin working on the PGP apps received in 2014 under new rules. There is no telling how quick or slow new apps will be done, but it should be quicker than they were doing before.

You are right. 20,000 admission is scheduled on annual levels for 2014 year and after.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2013/2013-10-29a.asp
By end of 2015, the backlog is reduced to 40,000. It will take another two years to clear the backlog.
That is, 20,000 admission in 2018 will be issued to PGP applied in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017.
So 2014&2017 applicants will get admitted in the same year assuming 20,000 is promised in 2018.

 

[soonihope]

If admission is also 45,000 in 2015,

2015 admission number is only expected to be 20000 & currently backlog is still more than 50000.

 

[OP_POP]

Have you experienced paying out of pocket for medical costs? It can be a major expense if you don't want your parent to face health issues alone in their home country. The current insurance for Super Visa parents is pretty much useless - you pay high rates for emergency care that you will probably not need. Why can we not get insurance for regular healthcare? How would that be a drain on tax payers? Also, just because we are only now applying to sponsor our parents does not mean we have not been here for a long time - we have been paying taxes for many years, but do not have the same benefit as other citizens when it comes to our parents.

I totally agree with canuck_in_uk. and your answer is simple:

1) Canada did not ask you to move here, you decided to apply to come here and Canada only accepted you (not your parents)
2) Canadian born parents already paid their tax, and now they are using healthcare. If our parents move here, they don't pay tax and they just use money from tax payers for their healthcare.


Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE my parents to move here right away, but I totally understand the other side of the story as well.

At the end, I really hope again that all of the members in this site who applied for PGP get their applications accepted and processed really soon.

 

[sdzbwxp]

2015 admission number is only expected to be 20000 & currently backlog is still more than 50000.

CIC website shows that they are working on applications received on or before April 30, 2011. The program was put on a halt in November, 2011. Does that make sense that CIC received 50,000 applications between April and November of 2011?

 

[soonihope]

I totally agree with canuck_in_uk. and your answer is simple:

1) Canada did not ask you to move here, you decided to apply to come here and Canada only accepted you (not your parents)

While this is true I think it is important to understand that when most immigrants who are trying to sponsor their parents in 2015 arrived in Canada they were under the impression that given time once they had established themselves they would be able to sponsor their parents.

This cap of 5000 only came about post changes made in Nov 2011 & I suspect most if not all of the people trying to sponsor parents today in 2015 arrived in Canada before this date.

Yes for new immigrants coming to Canada now they need to be aware that it is highly possible their parents won't be allowed to join them in the future. These people come to Canada knowing this.

It could be argued that they are aware of this family separation while those who came to Canada before 2011 rightly or wrongly assumed one day they would be allowed to bring their parents here too and now find this may not be possible because of the cap.

Some of those people may have chosen not to leave their home countries.

 

[soonihope]

CIC website shows that they are working on applications received on or before April 30, 2011. The program was put on a halt in November, 2011. Does that make sense that CIC received 50,000 applications between April and November of 2011?

letters for processing of sponsorship approval of cases between June 2010-Apr 2011 were sent in August 2014 to about 20000 applicants. These cases once approved will be passed onto LVO for second stage. Meanwhile there are already cases at LVO awaiting medical and security checks before visas are issued. Then there are cases yet to be processed for May 2011-Nov 2011. How many cases, difficult to guess. Altogether and with 2014's 5000 case number the total cases are just over 50000.

 

[qqq2015]

Anyone's certified cheque got cashed?

 

[OP_POP]

While this is true I think it is important to understand that when most immigrants who are trying to sponsor their parents in 2015 arrived in Canada they were under the impression that given time once they were established themselves they would be able to sponsor their parents.

This cap of 5000 only came about post changes made in Nov 2011 & I suspect most if not all of the people trying to sponsor parents today arrived in Canada before this date.

Yes for new immigrant coming to Canada now they need to be aware that it is highly possible their parents won't be allowed to join them in the future. These people come to Canada knowing this.

It could be argued that they are aware of this family separation while those who came to Canada before 2011 rightly or wrongly assumed one day they would be allowed to bring their parents here too and now find this may not be possible because of the cap.

Some of those people may have chosen not to leave their home countries.

See, we are talking about wishful thinking vs. reality. I really wish our wrong assumption (I never assumed that because there was no writing / contract / anything about it, just saying "our" because I wish it was true too lol) was right, but unfortunately the reality is something else. If you really wanted not to separate from your parents, you could have included them into your application (while most likely you would get rejected). You made that decision yourself to move here and you knew about the risk, we all did that.

Again I wish our parents could join us right away, I wish our wrong assumption was right, but unfortunately the truth is something else.

Also keep in mind, everyday we deal with risks and make decision based on those, life is like this, if we make bad mistakes, we can go back. All of us could move back and most of us will be in a better position than people who did not experience living in another country (amazing country like Canada).

 

[everhopeful]

I totally agree with canuck_in_uk. and your answer is simple:

1) Canada did not ask you to move here, you decided to apply to come here and Canada only accepted you (not your parents)
2) Canadian born parents already paid their tax, and now they are using healthcare. If our parents move here, they don't pay tax and they just use money from tax payers for their healthcare.


Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE my parents to move here right away, but I totally understand the other side of the story as well.

At the end, I really hope again that all of the members in this site who applied for PGP get their applications accepted and processed really soon.

You are both missing the point. I am not asking to use OHIP. But you cannot buy regular medical insurance in Canada - and that is the issue. Also, how am I different from any other naturalized citizen whose non-Canadian born parents are already here and using healthcare and getting social security / pension after 10 years sponsorship - my taxes help support them as well. So why should I not also expect the same benefit? In the US, parents of citizens are cleared in less than 2 years and the medical evaluation is a breeze. Canada drags its feet because of healthcare costs - so change the rules so that it benefits everybody. At the very least, allow us to insure our own parents for regular medical costs.

 

[karamba]

You are both missing the point. I am not asking to use OHIP. But you cannot buy regular medical insurance in Canada - and that is the issue. Also, how am I different from any other naturalized citizen whose non-Canadian born parents are already here and using healthcare and getting social security / pension after 10 years sponsorship - my taxes help support them as well. So why should I not also expect the same benefit? In the US, parents of citizens are cleared in less than 2 years and the medical evaluation is a breeze. Canada drags its feet because of healthcare costs - so change the rules so that it benefits everybody. At the very least, allow us to insure our own parents for regular medical costs.

I can understand why many Canadians would be against immigrants' parents receiving free health care. But I agree with you that there needs to be a mechanism in place for us to get medical insurance for our parents. Obviously this will be very expensive but I would be willing to pay the cost just to have the peace of mind. Or as an alternative, they could simply raise the sponsorship fees to offset the healthcare costs. This will also reduce the number of applicants.

 

[741953]

I filled out all the information I had, gave her a list of what I needed from her. 2 months later (and several reminders) she still had not given me the info to update. So I gave her the documents and asked her to fill them out and give them back to me. Several months later (and even more reminders) she still hadn't done it. I suggested to my husband and her that they go see a lawyer. Again, neither of them bothered to set up an appt with a lawyer or complete the application. A month before Christmas I sent them both an email explaining that they needed to get on this and that I was done trying to chase them down for information. 2 weeks before Christmas they finally got the app done and realized they needed to see a lawyer for help. At the lawyer appointment they found out they needed originals of some documents and had to order those, which delayed her getting her app in.

I am not a babysitter or a mother to my mother in law or my husband, so please do not try to make this my fault that they did not get their crap together in time. I am just looking for information on probability of acceptance for the application so I can let them know. Thanks.

I wish every one here read your comment above. Very inspiring indeed.
I have a new understanding of the definition of "FAMILY". Thanks.

 

[Ray_Of_Hope]

Spreadsheet Summary:

55 (53 accepted + 2 rejected) out of total 140 applicants in the spreadsheet got past the initial stage. That's more than 39%. These 55 are all Jan 2 applicants (out of total 85 Jan 2 applicants).

Thank you. Nice info

 

[Rossei]

Thank you. Nice info

Welcome.

Here is a summary update as of 7:00 AM, Jan 22, 2015 (Eastern Time):
64 (62 accepted + 2 rejected) out of total 151 applicants in the spreadsheet got past the initial stage. That's more than 42% now. 68% of Jan 2 applicants got their CC charged till now.

#CC Charging Tally:
#App Date
02 8-Jan-2015
02 9-Jan-2015
01 10-Jan-2015
00 11-Jan-2015 (Sunday)
02 12-Jan-2015
08 13-Jan-2015
06 14-Jan-2015
01 15-Jan-2015
11 16-Jan-2015
04 17-Jan-2015
00 18-Jan-2015 (Sunday)
12 19-Jan-2015
06 20-Jan-2015
07 21-Jan-2015
62 TOTAL

Spreadsheet: http://goo.gl/S2SPwf

 

[Elephant28]

Welcome.

Here is a summary update as of 7:00 AM, Jan 22, 2015 (Eastern Time):
64 (62 accepted + 2 rejected) out of total 151 applicants in the spreadsheet got past the initial stage. That's more than 42% now. 68% of Jan 2 applicants got their CC charged till now.

#CC Charging Tally:
#App Date
02 8-Jan-2015
02 9-Jan-2015
01 10-Jan-2015
00 11-Jan-2015 (Sunday)
02 12-Jan-2015
08 13-Jan-2015
06 14-Jan-2015
01 15-Jan-2015
11 16-Jan-2015
04 17-Jan-2015
00 18-Jan-2015 (Sunday)
12 19-Jan-2015
06 20-Jan-2015
07 21-Jan-2015
62 TOTAL

Thanks Rossei.. Nice summary

 

[myapp2014]

Welcome.

Here is a summary update as of 7:00 AM, Jan 22, 2015 (Eastern Time):
64 (62 accepted + 2 rejected) out of total 151 applicants in the spreadsheet got past the initial stage. That's more than 42% now. 68% of Jan 2 applicants got their CC charged till now.

#CC Charging Tally:
#App Date
02 8-Jan-2015
02 9-Jan-2015
01 10-Jan-2015
00 11-Jan-2015 (Sunday)
02 12-Jan-2015
08 13-Jan-2015
06 14-Jan-2015
01 15-Jan-2015
11 16-Jan-2015
04 17-Jan-2015
00 18-Jan-2015 (Sunday)
12 19-Jan-2015
06 20-Jan-2015
07 21-Jan-2015
62 TOTAL

Spreadsheet: http://goo.gl/S2SPwf

Great Rossei,

Just a small suggestion and I don't know what do you think,but maybe all known certified checks should be in different colour,since we will find out at later stage what's the status and now for them there is not expected CC charge