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Becki567 said:
Lay it out to who? The call centre people? Most of those people are clueless about anything that is not standard protocol. They certainly don't have the authority to tell you yay or nay. I would consult an immigration lawyer. What province are you in? Each province has a Law Society Referral Service. You call them, they give you three lawyers names that deal with the area of law you need. You get a free 30 minute consultation with each. That's what I think you should do

lol......unfortunately 100% true about the call centre folks - even the well-intentioned ones. Great/helpful advice ;)!!
 
Becki567 said:
Perhaps you should read the link you provided. In all the examples of abuse they gave no where does it say that his wife cheating on him and going back to her ex boyfriend is abuse. Hurting someone's feelings is not abuse.
even the bible says it ok to divorce if you are cheated on , unless you have a big heart like Jesus Christ to forgive ! And I don't think cic will remove him from Canada
 
Obronibini said:
even the bible says it ok to divorce if you are cheated on , unless you have a big heart like Jesus Christ to forgive ! And I don't think cic will remove him from Canada

Matthew 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
 
She left me alone, when she sponsored me she signed and undertaking oath to provide me with food. Shelter financially medically etc etc.

She left me, I tried my best.

Any human being with a heart will understand what iv went through. I haven't broken down. Iv still gone to work. I'm not a liability to Canada. Iv done everything in my power to follow the vows I took. I didn't cheat.

Mentally I'm broken, financially I'm stable. I don't do drugs I don't jeopardize my future.

I thank you all for feeling sorry for me. I don't feel sorry for myself. I haven't done anything wrong.

It's unfair to me when I think about her cheating. If divorce has 2 basis in Canada either separation for a year or adultery. Then cic should understand why I'm divorcing her on the grounds of adultery. Then they should also understand what I went through. I have all the proof of her mental state. And how she played me in the end. In the end I'm human as well, I have a heart too. I have to be strong otherwise what purpose does it serve for me to think bad. If anyone can find any info I would appreciate it so much.

To me, cheating is neglect and abuse. If I wasn't strong I would have thought about ending my life or doing something crazy. But I won't. Since she made her choice. I can't change what she did. But I can move on and give another girl a better life..
 
Dude, you need to put emotions aside and deal with this in an intelligent way. Consider all the advice you have been given before you make any moves.
 
blazinhassan said:
She left me alone, when she sponsored me she signed and undertaking oath to provide me with food. Shelter financially medically etc etc.

She left me, I tried my best.

Any human being with a heart will understand what iv went through. I haven't broken down. Iv still gone to work. I'm not a liability to Canada. Iv done everything in my power to follow the vows I took. I didn't cheat.

Mentally I'm broken, financially I'm stable. I don't do drugs I don't jeopardize my future.

I thank you all for feeling sorry for me. I don't feel sorry for myself. I haven't done anything wrong.

It's unfair to me when I think about her cheating. If divorce has 2 basis in Canada either separation for a year or adultery. Then cic should understand why I'm divorcing her on the grounds of adultery. Then they should also understand what I went through. I have all the proof of her mental state. And how she played me in the end. In the end I'm human as well, I have a heart too. I have to be strong otherwise what purpose does it serve for me to think bad. If anyone can find any info I would appreciate it so much.

To me, cheating is neglect and abuse. If I wasn't strong I would have thought about ending my life or doing something crazy. But I won't. Since she made her choice. I can't change what she did. But I can move on and give another girl a better life..

Every story has two sides.... unfortunately you are giving your side of the story and we will never know the other side.... I don't think that its easy task in Canada to prove adultery, and getting a lawyer to get you the divorce under those grounds is very unlikely.... I can read two things in your story, one is that you want a quick divorce..... and second that you want to marry someone else...., If you want to marry someone else and apply for permanent residence its is going to be a very difficult case.... and your would be one of those that are more likely to be denied, if you ever do... besides, you need to wait 5 years after landing to be able to sponsor someone, according to the best of my knowledge....
 
I want a quick divorce because my wife cheated.


I will never marry again. After going thru this. We were the best couple. I have never seen a person who U TURNED like her.

Maybe read what I said.

She was with me April 3rd. Telling me she's coming home.
April 4th she cheated on me. Admitted.


So yes I want a quick divorce because I can't be with a Cheater. Iv given a lot of thought.
I'm asking for help here not to get the easy way out for my self. But to start a life.

If I tell u her side. You will pull ur hair out.
 
Awesomeg said:
Every story has two sides.... unfortunately you are giving your side of the story and we will never know the other side.... I don't think that its easy task in Canada to prove adultery, and getting a lawyer to get you the divorce under those grounds is very unlikely.... I can read two things in your story, one is that you want a quick divorce..... and second that you want to marry someone else...., If you want to marry someone else and apply for permanent residence its is going to be a very difficult case.... and your would be one of those that are more likely to be denied, if you ever do... besides, you need to wait 5 years after landing to be able to sponsor someone, according to the best of my knowledge....

I know divorce is not easy, and when the dream of a life together comes to an end its very difficult, unfortunately, the one that may get hurt the most is you, the risk of getting your status in Canada revoked are very high as looks to me that you have not met the two years living together, and if the requirement is not met, then they may come after you, I have been in Canada to know that Immigration Canada is tough. If you want to renounce to your status in Canada then every thing that you are talking make sense..... but if you want to stay in Canada, then you should think twice on what you do and follow the best advise.
 
Makes sense. I will seek advice. Maybe il be their case .. Will update.
Thank you for your input. I know where ur coming from.
 
Appendix D – Types of Abuse

Physical abuse is abuse involving physical contact intended to cause feelings of intimidation, pain, injury, or other physical suffering or bodily harm. Physical abuse includes:

being hit, beaten, slapped, punched, choked, burned, pushed or shoved in a way that results or could result in injury;
forcefully isolating the victim from friends and family;
confining the victim (habitual residence or other);
forcing the victim to engage in drug or alcohol use or illegal behaviour against their will and possibly creating dependencies.
This list is not exhaustive; other types of physical abuse may also be taken into consideration for the purposes of determining the application of the exception set out in s.72.1 (6) IRPR.

Sexual abuse encompasses any situation in which force or threat is used to obtain participation in unwanted sexual activity or coercing a person to engage in sex, against their will, including:

marital or spousal rape;
forcing or manipulating another into having sex or performing sexual acts;
forcing unsafe or degrading sexual acts;
using physical force to compel a person to engage in a sexual act against another person’s will;
using physical force, weapons or objects in non-consensual sexual acts;
involving other people in non-consensual sexual acts;
exposing, suggesting, attempting or completing a sexual act involving a minor; and
exposing, suggesting, attempting or completing a sexual act involving a person who is unable to understand the nature or condition of the act, unable to decline participation, or unable to communicate unwillingness to engage in the sexual act, (for example, because of illness, disability, or the influence of alcohol or other drugs, or because of intimidation or pressure).
This list is not exhaustive; other types of sexual abuse may also be taken into consideration for the purposes of determining the application of the exception set out in s.72.1 (6) IRPR.



i hope the last line has something to do with her involving another person in a marriage to cause the break down of the marriage. what you guys think?
 
Unfortunately, as bad as your wife is, I don't think your situation falls under the abuse category. If you look at your own Appendix D, being slapped, choked, isolated from family, confined to your house, forcing you to take drugs, etc. These are VERY serious things involving force. In your case, all your ex did was just cheat on you and smoke weed (didn't even force you to do it).

I know this isn't a relationship advice forum, but seriously bro, you gotta man up, take your licks, and move on with your life. Everyone on this board agrees there's not much you can do if the marriage breaks down, to keep your PR, aside from trying to live a lie and dealing with a cheating wife until your Condition 51 expires.

You said you came from the US, why are you so worried about possibly being deported to there? It's about as identical to Canada as any other country in the world in terms of culture, prosperity, etc. I think instead of worrying about your PR, you should divorce your wife, return to the US, rent a nice place, find a job, and maybe date again. You don't even need to marry since you said so, you could just date casually, lots of women aren't interested in marriage. And because you've presumably lived in the US for a long time, when you go back there, it's where you are most familiar, and it shouldn't be too hard to pick up the pieces again.
 
blazinhassan said:
I want a quick divorce because my wife cheated.


I will never marry again. After going thru this. We were the best couple. I have never seen a person who U TURNED like her.

Maybe read what I said.

She was with me April 3rd. Telling me she's coming home.
April 4th she cheated on me. Admitted.


So yes I want a quick divorce because I can't be with a Cheater. Iv given a lot of thought.
I'm asking for help here not to get the easy way out for my self. But to start a life.

If I tell u her side. You will pull ur hair out.

I hope you were advised that divorcing with cause does not necessarily mean a faster divorce. In fact, in most cases it takes longer than the regular divorce process due to delays and back logs at the court house. Divorces with cause have no affect on splitting the assets or any other legal issues and are often much more costly.

I understand this has to be a very upsetting time but I think you need to actually sit down, do research and seek legal advice.
 
mikeymyke said:
Unfortunately, as bad as your wife is, I don't think your situation falls under the abuse category. If you look at your own Appendix D, being slapped, choked, isolated from family, confined to your house, forcing you to take drugs, etc. These are VERY serious things involving force. In your case, all your ex did was just cheat on you and smoke weed (didn't even force you to do it).

I know this isn't a relationship advice forum, but seriously bro, you gotta man up, take your licks, and move on with your life. Everyone on this board agrees there's not much you can do if the marriage breaks down, to keep your PR, aside from trying to live a lie and dealing with a cheating wife until your Condition 51 expires.

You said you came from the US, why are you so worried about possibly being deported to there? It's about as identical to Canada as any other country in the world in terms of culture, prosperity, etc. I think instead of worrying about your PR, you should divorce your wife, return to the US, rent a nice place, find a job, and maybe date again. You don't even need to marry since you said so, you could just date casually, lots of women aren't interested in marriage. And because you've presumably lived in the US for a long time, when you go back there, it's where you are most familiar, and it shouldn't be too hard to pick up the pieces again.
yeah I could do that, going back seem cool since it been just few months , I agree but it all up to him, I don't think you need to rush this ... Keep your evidence, take it easy, after all she's not kicking you out of the house right? Continue to work and live a normal life, and prepare for the worse .
 
When laws are written, they can not possibly take into account all the real life scenarios. It is for this reason people sometimes go to court, argue their case and even win a legal battle(that no one thought was possible) which sets a legal precedent. Just as we don't know how CIC will enforce breaches of the conditional PR, we also do not know what the outcome will be should a permanent resident challenge CIC's decision(to revoke their PR) in court. If he looses, he goes home but what if he wins?

What I would suggest is for the OP to seek legal advice from an immigration lawyer, and also ask for referral to a family law/divorce lawyer. Depending on the lawyer(s) professional opinion, he could make a decision.
 
mikeymyke said:
Unfortunately, as bad as your wife is, I don't think your situation falls under the abuse category. If you look at your own Appendix D, being slapped, choked, isolated from family, confined to your house, forcing you to take drugs, etc. These are VERY serious things involving force. In your case, all your ex did was just cheat on you and smoke weed (didn't even force you to do it).

I know this isn't a relationship advice forum, but seriously bro, you gotta man up, take your licks, and move on with your life. Everyone on this board agrees there's not much you can do if the marriage breaks down, to keep your PR, aside from trying to live a lie and dealing with a cheating wife until your Condition 51 expires.

You said you came from the US, why are you so worried about possibly being deported to there? It's about as identical to Canada as any other country in the world in terms of culture, prosperity, etc. I think instead of worrying about your PR, you should divorce your wife, return to the US, rent a nice place, find a job, and maybe date again. You don't even need to marry since you said so, you could just date casually, lots of women aren't interested in marriage. And because you've presumably lived in the US for a long time, when you go back there, it's where you are most familiar, and it shouldn't be too hard to pick up the pieces again.

under canadian law family violence consists of many types of abuse including physical, emotional and psychological...here is a link
http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/fv-vf/about-apropos.html
neglect is also considered abuse...best to consult a lawyer . i would also try to contact family court in your province see if you can get any help there to at least file for some legal separation or something like that...if you had some sort of ruling from them then go to immigration lawyer for consultaion. think of your own wellbeing here..if you have some proof...she maybe has personality disorder or some other mental health condition and that combined with drug use..you should not have to suffer for that. as long as you get enough proof