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blazinhassan said:
She did threaten me, her dad as well. They both are pot heads now.

I have all evidence of her admitting to cheating. Written in words. Iv done nothing wrong here I believe cic will listen to me and give me a break.

I wouldn't wanna take that route of waiting it out. Now that makes me look suspicious. And I don't want to do anything illegal. The exception is there I believe for people in my boat. Who comes forward..
exactly my point, waiting too long doesn't look good
 
Yup that's what I keep thinking. Man she cheated. I don't want to spend a single second being married to a Cheater. I'm at the paralegal at the moment signing the divorce docs.

Will be serving her next week.

And once that's done in will call the cic and tell them exactly.

If anyone knows of a better way to put this to them ease let me know

Otherwise I will just lay out what I went through.
 
This is such a new condition, I believe what anyone says will be only speculation.

I suspect it doesn't matter if she left you or you left her or you guys just did not work. The condition, IMO, doesn't seem to care what causes the split (unless it is abuse which this is not).

I am sorry you find yourself in this situation but I suspect the CIC won't care. I am sure there will be plenty of lawsuits in the coming years in regards to this issue.
 
blazinhassan said:
Yup that's what I keep thinking. Man she cheated. I don't want to spend a single second being married to a Cheater. I'm at the paralegal at the moment signing the divorce docs.

Will be serving her next week.

And once that's done in will call the cic and tell them exactly.

If anyone knows of a better way to put this to them ease let me know

Otherwise I will just lay out what I went through.

Lay it out to who? The call centre people? Most of those people are clueless about anything that is not standard protocol. They certainly don't have the authority to tell you yay or nay. I would consult an immigration lawyer. What province are you in? Each province has a Law Society Referral Service. You call them, they give you three lawyers names that deal with the area of law you need. You get a free 30 minute consultation with each. That's what I think you should do
 
blazinhassan said:
Yup that's what I keep thinking. Man she cheated. I don't want to spend a single second being married to a Cheater. I'm at the paralegal at the moment signing the divorce docs.

Will be serving her next week.

And once that's done in will call the cic and tell them exactly.

If anyone knows of a better way to put this to them ease let me know

Otherwise I will just lay out what I went through.
I would call them first before beginning the divorce process, either way just seek more legal advice , I think this is an abuse, maybe emotional abuse? Or betrayal of trust I dunno :)
 
blazinhassan said:
She did threaten me, her dad as well. They both are pot heads now.

I have all evidence of her admitting to cheating. Written in words. Iv done nothing wrong here I believe cic will listen to me and give me a break.

I wouldn't wanna take that route of waiting it out. Now that makes me look suspicious. And I don't want to do anything illegal. The exception is there I believe for people in my boat. Who comes forward..

Cheating is not only abusive but it is dangerous. Lets say his wife cheated, and as he wanted to work things out with her he also had relations with her, or lets say he did not know she cheated until much later. Now he is at risk of being exposed to STD's. This can weigh on someone's mind. The OP has every right to report this and with the proof he has so far I doubt that CIC would penalize him for his sponsors actions which are abusive and put him in immediate danger (wife's drug use/adultery) by exposing him to variety of diseases , some being life threatening.
 
Becki567 said:
This is such a new condition, I believe what anyone says will be only speculation.

I suspect it doesn't matter if she left you or you left her or you guys just did not work. The condition, IMO, doesn't seem to care what causes the split (unless it is abuse which this is not).

I am sorry you find yourself in this situation but I suspect the CIC won't care. I am sure there will be plenty of lawsuits in the coming years in regards to this issue.

Actually, yes, this is abuse.

See the OP on Conditional PR. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob480.asp
 
jomz said:
Actually, yes, this is abuse.

See the OP on Conditional PR. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob480.asp

Perhaps you should read the link you provided. In all the examples of abuse they gave no where does it say that his wife cheating on him and going back to her ex boyfriend is abuse. Hurting someone's feelings is not abuse.
 
Becki567 said:
Perhaps you should read the link you provided. In all the examples of abuse they gave no where does it say that his wife cheating on him and going back to her ex boyfriend is abuse. Hurting someone's feelings is not abuse.

I take no offense to your comment because clearly you have no concept how to read and interpret legal materials.

But I will give you an example. Lets say, everyday your husband comes home and spits in your face. Is that abuse?

Please keep in mind that "spitting" is not listed. What do you think.
 
jomz said:
I take no offense to your comment because clearly you have no concept how to read and interpret legal materials.

But I will give you an example. Lets say, everyday your husband comes home and spits in your face. Is that abuse?

Please keep in mind that "spitting" is not listed. What do you think.

Spitting is a form is battery and illegal and yes therefore abuse. I just finished taking a Law class in university. I am by no means an expert so thankfully the link you provided is not full of legal jargon. Could you please copy and paste where it says leaving your husband for another man is abuse? I would love for you to teach me how to read such complicated material.

Spitting a form is battery and illegal and yes therefore abuse. Leaving your husband for another man is not. It sucks, is immoral IMO, but not abuse.
 
Becki567 said:
Spitting a form is battery and illegal and yes therefore abuse. I just finished taking a Law class in university. I am by no means no expert so thankfully the link you provided is not full of legal jargon. Could you please copy and paste where it says leaving your husband for another man is abuse? I would love for you to teach me how to read such complicated material.

Spitting a form is battery and illegal and yes therefore abuse. Leaving your husband for another man is not. It sucks, is immoral IMO, but not abuse.

It is abuse when it is coupled with drug abuse, and uttering threats.

Psychological abuse includes:

where there is a pattern of coercive or controlling behaviour, which can include, but is not limited to insults, intimidation, humiliation, harassment or threats, name-calling, yelling, blaming, shaming, ridiculing, disrespecting, and criticising;...
 
Spitting would clearly fit into this category: Copied right from your link - "Physical abuse is abuse involving physical contact intended to cause feelings of intimidation, pain, injury, or other physical suffering or bodily harm."

Look at all that crazy complicated legal jargon! :o
 
The OP doesn't clarify the threats. If they were of a serious enough nature I hope he has filed a police report. If it isn't serious enough for a police report I doubt it would be serious enough for CIC.

Again, as I stated above. Everyone's opinion is speculation. As far as I am aware there is no precedent (<---- look fancy legal word) and that is why I recommended a lawyer, and how he could consult with one for free.

I wish the OP luck, I don't believe you should have your PR revoked. I feel sorry for your situation, I am just not optimistic with CIC's history that they will be reasonable with no precedent and a new ambiguous condition.
 
blazinhassan said:
Yup that's what I keep thinking. Man she cheated. I don't want to spend a single second being married to a Cheater. I'm at the paralegal at the moment signing the divorce docs.

Will be serving her next week.

And once that's done in will call the cic and tell them exactly.

If anyone knows of a better way to put this to them ease let me know

Otherwise I will just lay out what I went through.

infidelity is a good ground for divorce in canada. it is also considered emotional abuse...is there any chance you can go to immigration lawyer for consultation?
 
blazinhassan said:
Yup that's what I keep thinking. Man she cheated. I don't want to spend a single second being married to a Cheater. I'm at the paralegal at the moment signing the divorce docs.

Will be serving her next week.

And once that's done in will call the cic and tell them exactly.

If anyone knows of a better way to put this to them ease let me know

Otherwise I will just lay out what I went through.

Please talk to a reputable and experienced immigration lawyer first before you take/finalize any action with your divorce or contacting CIC. As many of the other folks have already mentioned, the conditional PR is too new to have any precedents set and the government has no way of enforcing it or communicating between depts. due to privacy legislation.

I personally would agree with not trying to deceive by omission; however, you do not want to act or speak too hastily without doing your homework either. I understand that emotionally you feel you need to move on the divorce front immediately - but because the implications of your situation still contain many unknowns related to what will be best for your future - another week or two spent getting professional advice might be worth the wait. In addition, if you do end up requiring proof and evidence, a legal paper trail will be the best way for you to ensure you have documented your side of things.

I offer my sympathies as well for your personal situation. It is painful enough to have to go through this in any context much less with immigration worries on your head. Prayers and blessings for better days ahead.