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http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=hansard

Hon. Chris Alexander:
Mr. Speaker, with all due respect for my colleague, we do not see any flaws in our bill.
Caving huh?
 

us2yow

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realizing slowly but steadily that many of their proposals are Stone Age and the immigrants are qualified 21st Century over whose eyes you can pull wool for only that long (and it aint even Cashmere or Angora wool ! ) ;)
 

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It seems that several Conservative MPs are starting to realize that the provision to strip pre-PR time for ex-foreign workers/international students might not be the best idea.

The only clear argument they can invoke is the backlog. While they have really hard time trying to explain, how the backlog would be solved by this.

So contacting your MP about this bill seems like a good idea.

Also, if you have a twitter account:the English hash tag is #CitAct; the French hash tag is #LoiCit

And don't forget to sign/share the petition:

https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/house-of-commons-in-parliament-of-canada-do-not-allow-unfair-treatment-of-former-foreign-workers-and-international-students-by-new-canadian-citizenship-bill-c-24
 

us2yow

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Looks like the petition will hit the 5000 signatures limit very soon! It's moved fast...goes to show it addresses a very important chunk of immigrants who you don't want to mess with! Congrats and Good Luck as the debate goes on..... :)
 

sashali78

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Dear Supporters,

Thank you so much for your support and valuable comments you have left on the petition page!
As we are reaching over 5000! signatures and have already achieved some major milestones, I wanted to give an update to all of you who make our fight a success!

1. We have fully formed our message and legal version of the petition to Parliament of Canada and made it public on our petition page (see the bottom section addressing to the Parliament). We have brought in some good factual evidence, research and government data release to support all of the above. If you wish to receive a PDF copy, please feel free to contact: FightTheBillC24@outlook.com

2. We have launched our "MP campaign" and engaging with over 35 members of parliaments from Conservative, NDP and Liberal parties in GTA, Vancouver, Edmonton, Ottawa and Montreal areas. We are presenting them with our message, evidence and research, legal and online petitions. We need more volunteers to carry our message to local MPs, especially in areas such as Calgary, Regina and Winnipeg. You don't have to be affected by the new law in order to support us and carry our message. You can be a Canadian born, or naturalized citizen, permanent residence or a temporary one studying or working in Canada. Please step forward and we will provide you with all the needed documents for meeting with you MP. Please email at: FightTheBillC24@outlook.com to volunteer.

3. We have received a major news coverage in Toronto Star and it can be found in both printed and on-line editions: http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2014/03/03/canadian_newcomers_dread_changes_to_citizenship_rules.html#.

4. We keep working on attaining new signatures - recently we have merged with students petition on Change.Org which pursue the same target as we are. The more signatures we have the higher the pressure will be on the Government to change their position.

5. I want to ask everyone personally to step in and help promote this petition in person, by emails, by Facebook and Twitter and/or other social media means. If every one of you will secure just ONE additional signature we will reach over 10000! You can also help promoting it on the Change.Org by paying on the petition page (Promote This Petition button on the right side of petition page, after you logged in).

I am full of hope that on next update we can declare a VICTORY!
 

sashali78

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sashali78 said:
Dear Supporters,

Thank you so much for your support and valuable comments you have left on the petition page!
As we are reaching over 5000! signatures and have already achieved some major milestones, I wanted to give an update to all of you who make our fight a success!

1. We have fully formed our message and legal version of the petition to Parliament of Canada and made it public on our petition page (see the bottom section addressing to the Parliament). We have brought in some good factual evidence, research and government data release to support all of the above. If you wish to receive a PDF copy, please feel free to contact: FightTheBillC24 @ outlook.com

2. We have launched our "MP campaign" and engaging with over 35 members of parliaments from Conservative, NDP and Liberal parties in GTA, Vancouver, Edmonton, Ottawa and Montreal areas. We are presenting them with our message, evidence and research, legal and online petitions. We need more volunteers to carry our message to local MPs, especially in areas such as Calgary, Regina and Winnipeg. You don't have to be affected by the new law in order to support us and carry our message. You can be a Canadian born, or naturalized citizen, permanent residence or a temporary one studying or working in Canada. Please step forward and we will provide you with all the needed documents for meeting with you MP. Please email at: FightTheBillC24 @ outlook.com to volunteer.

3. We have received a major news coverage in Toronto Star and it can be found in both printed and on-line editions: http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2014/03/03/canadian_newcomers_dread_changes_to_citizenship_rules.html#.

4. We keep working on attaining new signatures - recently we have merged with students petition on Change.Org which pursue the same target as we are. The more signatures we have the higher the pressure will be on the Government to change their position.

5. I want to ask everyone personally to step in and help promote this petition in person, by emails, by Facebook and Twitter and/or other social media means. If every one of you will secure just ONE additional signature we will reach over 10000! You can also help promoting it on the Change.Org by paying on the petition page (Promote This Petition button on the right side of petition page, after you logged in).

I am full of hope that on next update we can declare a VICTORY!
As MP's are heading back to their constituency offices, we have 2 more weeks now to gather more signatures before 2nd reading. Help us to oppose the unfair legislation: https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/parliament-of-canada-do-not-allow-unfair-treatment-of-former-foreign-workers-and-international-students-by-new-canadian-citizenship-bill-c-24
 

sashali78

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sashali78 said:
As MP's are heading back to their constituency offices, we have 2 more weeks now to gather more signatures before 2nd reading. Help us to oppose the unfair legislation: https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/parliament-of-canada-do-not-allow-unfair-treatment-of-former-foreign-workers-and-international-students-by-new-canadian-citizenship-bill-c-24
Our petition was presented today by Ms. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (Pierrefonds—Dollard, NDP):
Link: http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=hansard&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2

"Mr. Speaker, I present a petition with respect to Bill C-24 and the fact that it does unfairly treat current Canadian permanent residents who came to Canada as temporary foreign workers or international students.
The petitioners call upon the House of Commons to consider amending the Canadian Citizenship Act to recognize non-permanent residency time to be counted toward the citizenship residency requirement."
 

sashali78

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Some latest updates:

1. Our group has been asked to testify in front of Citizenship and Immigration Committee during the bill C-24 proceedings. Our representatives are going to give a speech and answer questions of the committee on May, 7 2014.

2. We have contacted over 60 members of parliament from Conservative, NDP and Liberal parties and provided them with our material and research. We have conducted over 20 face-to-face meetings with MPs in the last 2 months to promote awareness of the Bill and its affects.

3. We'd like to reach a 10,000 signatures mark before the CIMM hearings, please help to spread the word and sign people on our petition. One of the ways to promote petition is to pay at Change.Org website for promotion of the petition (pay-per-view). Your help will be much appreciated!
https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/parliament-of-canada-do-not-allow-unfair-treatment-of-former-foreign-workers-and-international-students-by-new-canadian-citizenship-bill-c-24

Thanks to everyone who supported us!
 

FAS

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great job! Sashali78,

I have signed petition, i am not effected by pre PR period not counted towards citizenship, I am more concerned about declaring intent to stay in Canada, although i do plan to stay in Canada but it really bothers me to live under the fear that they are tracking me or binding me (i know extreme case) when I am travelling for better opportunities elsewhere (should they arise).

FAS
 

us2yow

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Yeah we should look for Conservative MPs whose kids are married to foreign spouses etc. etc.

When they feel the pinch, when it hits home for them personally, then they will see the glaring "double standards" at play !

In the end, behind all this structure and rules, is a lot of stuff that happens based on whim and emotion !

Nothing is ever that Black and White is it ! ? A lotta Grey in between.
 

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sashali78 said:
Our petition was presented today by Ms. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (Pierrefonds—Dollard, NDP):
"Mr. Speaker, I present a petition with respect to Bill C-24 and the fact that it does unfairly treat current Canadian permanent residents who came to Canada as temporary foreign workers or international students.
The petitioners call upon the House of Commons to consider amending the Canadian Citizenship Act to recognize non-permanent residency time to be counted toward the citizenship residency requirement."
The document (since it's not the last one anymore):
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=6490201
 

sashali78

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As another measure of education and exposure, our team member has created a website which summarize our position, materials and etc. Feel free to spread it around: www.preprtimecounts.com
 

sashali78

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Hi All,

In preparation for our testimony in front of the committee we need your help to gather some statistical data. Will much appreciate if all those who were on temporary status prior becoming PR would fill in a 2min survey on our group website: http://preprtimecounts.com/2014/05/01/take-our-survey/
Many thanks in advance!
 

Marypetty

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Re: Citizenship Act Bill C-24.

I don't know about some of the ramifications of this Bill, but I do know that there are some people who apply for citizenship, who have no intention of staying/settling in Canada, or until it suits them, just wanting a passpaort of convenience; not paid any taxes; have left for another country, leaving their families behind to be funded by the Canadian taxpayers and have not contributed anything to the Country. I am sure that some other countries (New Zealand, Australia, Great Britain for example) all require stricter proof of residency covering more years than Canada, which has not changed the residency requirements for many years or the fee required. I think the Canadian Government just ways to stamp out fraud and make it easier for genuine immigrants to settle in Canada - consequently - the changes.
 

sashali78

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Re: Citizenship Act Bill C-24.

Marypetty said:
I don't know about some of the ramifications of this Bill, but I do know that there are some people who apply for citizenship, who have no intention of staying/settling in Canada, or until it suits them, just wanting a passpaort of convenience; not paid any taxes; have left for another country, leaving their families behind to be funded by the Canadian taxpayers and have not contributed anything to the Country. I am sure that some other countries (New Zealand, Australia, Great Britain for example) all require stricter proof of residency covering more years than Canada, which has not changed the residency requirements for many years or the fee required. I think the Canadian Government just ways to stamp out fraud and make it easier for genuine immigrants to settle in Canada - consequently - the changes.
You are completely wrong. Before you are that "sure", do your homework.
Australia - 4 years qualifying period (out of which just 12 months must be on permanent status while the rest can be on work/student permit)
N. Zealand - 5 years qualifying period (no permanent residence requirement , all 5 years can be accumulated under student/work permit, then transition to PR and apply for citizenship)
Also, Germany, Sweden, France, Italy, Netherlands,and more favourable conditions. Of course if you want to compare Canada immigration to US system then Canada is at best but I don't think Canada should measure itself up to US if it still wants to attract immigration, shall it?