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gettingcrazy

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zardoz said:
I'm not saying that your application WILL fail, but you can expect it to get a lot of scrutiny, be longer than normal and probably require an interview.
Thank you! Me and my husband are both prepared for that. like i said i just want to address all issue the best i can.
We asked support letters from his co-workers, employer and friends, and also with mine. preparing all evidence that would help me and my husband.

What are other red flags consider by CIC? thanks so much for you help!
 

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gettingcrazy said:
What are other red flags consider by CIC? thanks so much for you help!
Other red flags CAN include
- family did not attend wedding
- wedding was very small
- different religions
- different cultures
- different economic situations
- different education levels
- significant age difference (especially where the female is older)
 

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Also:

- family / friends have never met the spouse
 

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Just to add a few more thoughts...

You'll want to demonstrate that you have combined your affairs as a normal married couple does even though you live apart and don't see each other very often. Do you have any shared property or shared bank accounts? Have you named each other as beneficiaries on life insurance policies, wills and other similar documents? The Canadian should declare himself/herself married on their 2013 tax return. Etc.
 

gettingcrazy

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Other red flags CAN include

- family did not attend wedding = on his side the only one who attended was his childhood best friend, our common friends, and most are from my family.
- wedding was very small = It wasn't a grand wedding but wasn't very small also. we had a reception catered attended by more or less 70 people
- different religions = same religion
- different cultures = grew up with the same culture
- different economic situations ( what does this mean?)
- different education levels (he never graduated college because on his first term he moved back to canada, iam a college graduate)
- significant age difference = My husband is 23 and iam 26 (what exactly is the gap they look for here?)
- family / friends have never met the spouse = my husband met my family via skype also on his visit and i met his best friend before our wedding



Thank you for the help everyone!
 

gettingcrazy

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scylla said:
Just to add a few more thoughts...

You'll want to demonstrate that you have combined your affairs as a normal married couple does even though you live apart and don't see each other very often. Do you have any shared property or shared bank accounts? Have you named each other as beneficiaries on life insurance policies, wills and other similar documents? The Canadian should declare himself/herself married on their 2013 tax return. Etc.
We have joint back account here in PH.
And we are still in the process of getting life insurances we both plan to put each other as beneficiary.
We tried getting a subsidiary for the credit card but the bank insisted that i should be in canada before my husband can put me as his subsidiary.
 
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gettingcrazy said:
Other red flags CAN include

- family did not attend wedding = on his side the only one who attended was his childhood best friend, our common friends, and most are from my family.
- wedding was very small = It wasn't a grand wedding but wasn't very small also. we had a reception catered attended by more or less 70 people
- different religions = same religion
- different cultures = grew up with the same culture
- different economic situations ( what does this mean?)
- different education levels (he never graduated college because on his first term he moved back to canada, iam a college graduate)
- significant age difference = My husband is 23 and iam 26 (what exactly is the gap they look for here?)
- family / friends have never met the spouse = my husband met my family via skype also on his visit and i met his best friend before our wedding
So far I think your biggest red flag is the marrying after just 2 weeks meeting face to face, followed by your husband's family not attending the wedding, and you haven't even met his parents (I'm assuming that because you mentioned your husband met your parents, but didnt say anything about you meeting his).

Different economic situations means one of you is very poor and the other is wealthy. Educational difference can be a red flag, but usually I see it's limited to people with Grade 9 education marrying a university grad. Your age difference seems small, but you will need to address the issue of why your husband's parents never came to what is supposed to be their son's most important day of his life, and why you never even met them before.
 

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mikeymyke said:
So far I think your biggest red flag is the marrying after just 2 weeks meeting face to face, followed by your husband's family not attending the wedding, and you haven't even met his parents (I'm assuming that because you mentioned your husband met your parents, but didnt say anything about you meeting his).

Different economic situations means one of you is very poor and the other is wealthy. Educational difference can be a red flag, but usually I see it's limited to people with Grade 9 education marrying a university grad. Your age difference seems small, but you will need to address the issue of why your husband's parents never came to what is supposed to be their son's most important day of his life, and why you never even met them before.
Thank you so much for your feed back.
To make things clear my husband is Independent and alone in canada, that was the reason our first plan never pushed through because his father died (the only person whom he considered his family) and about his mother even before i met him. (he had a family feud with his mom dated back since he was a child). His mom and dad are separated but not legally. they just don't leave together.
 

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OK, here's the critical question, which you may be asked in an interview.
You need to think very carefully about the answer.

"What will you do if I refuse this application? ".
 

gettingcrazy

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zardoz said:
OK, here's the critical question, which you may be asked in an interview.
You need to think very carefully about the answer.

"What will you do if I refuse this application? ".
I would appeal my application and If still all else fails. My husband is willing to move here with me. (me and my husband discussed this issue before, and we came up with this)
 

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gettingcrazy said:
I would appeal my application and If still all else fails. My husband is willing to move here with me. (me and my husband discussed this issue before, and we came up with this)
I was hoping that you would say that, as it means that you could, if all else fails, still be together and proving your relationship for a future application.
 

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i would also like to ask something regarding this subject.

i have some red flags too, apparently. are my explanations valid?

1. i'll marry in march: i won't have a religious ceremony (close relative died in less than a year ago - not society-acceptable to do a religious wedding in less than 1 year after), but i will have a little wedding reception with aprox. 40-50 people. i do intend to do the big wedding once in Canada - i will mention that

2. also his parents won't come to the wedding & i never met them - we live 6000 km apart (main reason + important full time jobs + expensive trip overall) - i do talk with his mother almost daily via facebook and we like eachother a lot. there's a possibility that his best friend will come but slim chances

3. i didn't meet his family but he met my whole family + friends, i have some people willing to vouch for us

4. economical issue: he's canadian and i am easter-european, so i`m not very wealthy but i'm doing fine, not really comparable to canadian living standards though

do you think i'll be fine?
 

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CutiePie92 said:
1. i'll marry in march: i won't have a religious ceremony (close relative died in less than a year ago - not society-acceptable to do a religious wedding in less than 1 year after), but i will have a little wedding reception with aprox. 40-50 people. i do intend to do the big wedding once in Canada - i will mention that
I didn't have a religious ceremony either. I explained that we are both catholic and my husband was married before and the catholic church does not recognize divorce, so we could not have a religious ceremony.

CutiePie92 said:
2. also his parents won't come to the wedding & i never met them - we live 6000 km apart (main reason + important full time jobs + expensive trip overall) - i do talk with his mother almost daily via facebook and we like eachother a lot. there's a possibility that his best friend will come but slim chances
I would rephrase the part with his parents not attending the wedding because it's an expensive trip. I don't think it would sound good if you would say your in-laws are to cheap to be there at their son's most important day :) Maybe try and have them and your husbands friends see the civil ceremony live through Skype or Facetime or something similar and mention that. And mention again that they are involved in organizing your big wedding in Canada.

CutiePie92 said:
3. i didn't meet his family but he met my whole family + friends, i have some people willing to vouch for us
You've met his family online. So it's not like you've never talked to them. Have them write a support letter anyway, it's important. Make some snapshots during video conversations through Skype/Facetime, include some of the discussions you and his mom had over Facebook, especially some of the more private ones.

CutiePie92 said:
4. economical issue: he's canadian and i am easter-european, so i`m not very wealthy but i'm doing fine, not really comparable to canadian living standards though
This I don't think it is really an issue. I'm in the same situation and it never was an issue.

CutiePie92 said:
do you think i'll be fine?
Yes :D Unless there's a really big age or cultural difference between the 2 of you, I think you will be fine ;D
 

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yeah i`ll have his mom write a letter, and i have loads of convos to show CIC haha ,we babble a lot - she also sent me a Christmas gift even if she never saw me (i guess the canadian stereotype of being excessively nice applies to all of the canadians i know :p)
she also asked me to film the wedding so that she can see .. so i guess it's fine.

thanks for your reply Betina :)