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superman2012

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my sponsor parent's do not know our relationship for 2 years, we kept it secret and they did not even know that we get married here in Canada. we explained that to form 5285E that their religion is not accepting gay couple and he don't want to get his parents upset to him because he is gay, but we wrote there on the form that my sponsor introduced his family to me. However, my parents and my siblings know that we get married and they also know our relationship in fact my sister wrote e letter stating our genuineness of our relationship of my partner.
 

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superman2012 said:
we explained that to form 5285E that their religion is not accepting gay couple and he don't want to get his parents upset to him because he is gay, but we wrote there on the form that my sponsor introduced his family to me.
So on 1 form you explained that you never met sponsor's family because they are not accepting of gay couples, and in another form you lied and explained you did meet all of them??
If this is the case then yes it could cause problems if you are contradicting yourself in the app, or if you eventually have an interview and contradict anything you say there to what was in the app.
 

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It all depends on what "my sponsor introduced his family to me" means (could just be siblings but not parents).

Either way, I agree that it could certainly lead to questions and possible problems.
 

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hello thank you for those who replied
yes, their religion do not accept gay couples, so my partner just introduced his parents to me as a friend.

in the form we wrote that our marriage on his family side is secret because of their religion.
 

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I think CIC only views hidden relationships as a possibility of fake marriage attempt. It does not matter if you are gay or not, what religion you belong to or what color is your skin etc. In their mind since you kept it hidden, you may have attempted a fraud, I am sure there will be questions.
 

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o6ocpaka said:
I think CIC only views hidden relationships as a possibility of fake marriage attempt. It does not matter if you are gay or not, what religion you belong to or what color is your skin etc. In their mind since you kept it hidden, you may have attempted a fraud, I am sure there will be questions.
we have a lot of proof that our relationship is genuine. is just that my partner's religion is not accepting gay couples. ofcpurse he respect their religion right? and one thing, My parents and siblings know our relationship and were dating for almost 2 years and 5 months now.
 

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The visa officer will certainly have questions about this. It would not be the grounds for refusal by itself, but if it is not explained to the visa officer's satisfaction, it might become one reason for a refusal.

If there is an interview, the applicant must be prepared to discuss this with the visa officer and explain why the marriage is a secret to one side of the family. The explanation you have provided here is fine. The fact that your own family knows about the relationship and marriage is a point in your favour.
 

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canadianwoman said:
The visa officer will certainly have questions about this. It would not be the grounds for refusal by itself, but if it is not explained to the visa officer's satisfaction, it might become one reason for a refusal.

If there is an interview, the applicant must be prepared to discuss this with the visa officer and explain why the marriage is a secret to one side of the family. The explanation you have provided here is fine. The fact that your own family knows about the relationship and marriage is a point in your favour.
yes we actually wrote this and I hope the VO will convince :( "Our wedding is not known to my sponsor’s parents and siblings. He intended to keep it secret from his family because their religion does not approve of it and he does not want to upset his parents. Religious fanaticism and conservatism is one of the reasons why he left the Philippines and moved to Canada where he celebrates his freedom from religious persecution and social prejudice. Though his family does not know about our relationship, he showed me how important I am to his life by introducing me to the members of his family, to his friends and some of his church mates in Calgary."
 

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That should be OK. CIC does realize that not everyone approves of same-sex relationships. Just be prepared to talk about this at an interview, and stress the fact that your family knows about the relationship and accepts it.
 

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o6ocpaka said:
I think CIC only views hidden relationships as a possibility of fake marriage attempt. It does not matter if you are gay or not, what religion you belong to or what color is your skin etc. In their mind since you kept it hidden, you may have attempted a fraud, I am sure there will be questions.
What a crock of BS.

I'm surprised we're almost ten posts in and no one has asked "which VO"? Should processing be out of Manila for example, I would say this will cause you no problems whatsoever.
 

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truesmile said:
What a crock of BS.

I'm surprised we're almost ten posts in and no one has asked "which VO"? Should processing be out of Manila for example, I would say this will cause you no problems whatsoever.
It is Manila (although I think they are applying inland). That's why I haven't bothered responding. I agree with you.
 

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scylla said:
It is Manila (although I think they are applying inland). That's why I haven't bothered responding. I agree with you.
so for inland, does it matter to them if they know that the relationship is secret to his parents side?
 

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truesmile said:
What a crock of BS.

I'm surprised we're almost ten posts in and no one has asked "which VO"? Should processing be out of Manila for example, I would say this will cause you no problems whatsoever.
Why would determining misrepresentation be VO specific?

Either it is, or it isn't, misrepresentation to lie about it on one form, but not on the other.
 

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Ponga said:
Why would determining misrepresentation be VO specific?

Either it is, or it isn't, misrepresentation to lie about it on one form, but not on the other.
That's not what truesmile is saying. It's true that misrepresentation is not VO specific - I don't think anyone will argue that. What truesmile is saying is that hiding a same sex relationship from family members is more common to some VOs than others. Since the OP is from the Philippines, it probably won't come as much of a surprise to CIC that the same sex relationship has been hidden from one set of parents. They see this all the time...