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Same Sex Conjugal Partnership

Rob_TO

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SAHIL SINGH said:
As an Indian i don't need visa to go to Nepal

I think u guys are just into why we didn't try to get visa for the country where gay marriages are legal, I tried to get visa for Canada and we also went to Nepal. And don't forget my financial condition im not able to get visa for any other country who accept gay marriages, Bcoz of my financial condition Canada VO denied my visa application and they are not saying it on CIC website that if u are coming form a country where gay marriage is not valid u must try to get married in other country who supports gay marriages to support ur relationship.
Technically you are correct. CIC manuals state they don't want to force people to get married, and that if you satisfy the conditions that it is legally impossible to live common-law in each other's counties due to visa reasons, then conjugal status would apply.

HOWEVER the advice you are getting here is based on what other conjugal couples have gone through when dealing with VOs processing their applications, and what some of the reasons for refusal of conjugal apps has been. It doesn't matter exactly how the rules are worded on the CIC manuals, the VO is free to make their own decisions, ask any questions they want, and ultimately deny your application for whatever reason they see fit. Even though in an appeal you would most likely win, this causes a huge delay.

CIC states specifically "If a Canadian and a foreign national can get married or can live together and establish a common-law relationship, this is what they are expected to have done before they submit sponsorship and immigration applications.
The conjugal partner category is mainly intended for partners where neither common-law partner status nor marriage is possible, usually because of marital status or sexual orientation, combined with an immigration barrier.


Since this is open to interpretation, the VO might want to see if you explored other possibilities to get married, such as applying for a visa to get married in a 3rd country. Not saying they will definitely do this, but you have to understand it is a definite possibility. Hopefully in your case, you get a reasonable VO and they accept your reasons for applying conjugal.
 

SAHIL SINGH

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zardoz said:
The truth is that it is the VO's job to profile applications. That's how they decide which of the many thousands of cases get more extensive checking. It's a fact of life. It's not personal. All they know is based on what they can read in the application submitted, so based on experience, some things will cause them to take a very close look at applications that fit known existing problem profiles.

Nobody here is trying to say anything about the merits of you as individuals, but are attempting to alert you to the fact that some things will trigger an enhanced response within CIC.

Yes you are right and your words makes real sense. I am glad.

regards.
 

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SAHIL SINGH said:
As an Indian i don't need visa to go to Nepal

I think u guys are just into why we didn't try to get visa for the country where gay marriages are legal, I tried to get visa for Canada and we also went to Nepal. And don't forget my financial condition im not able to get visa for any other country who accept gay marriages, Bcoz of my financial condition Canada VO denied my visa application and they are not saying it on CIC website that if u are coming form a country where gay marriage is not valid u must try to get married in other country who supports gay marriages to support ur relationship.
Without at least an attempt to get married in a third country, I don't think you will qualify as Conjugal. The fact you can't afford it isn't a barrier to immigration. CIC will say you can save up your money and plan the trip.

I'm sorry to say, but I see a lot of red flags in your application.
 

BC_guy

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amikety said:
Without at least an attempt to get married in a third country, I don't think you will qualify as Conjugal. The fact you can't afford it isn't a barrier to immigration. CIC will say you can save up your money and plan the trip.
I disagree. My partner and me had a successful conjugal application and we did NOT attempt to get married in a third country. So we are proof this is not an accurate statement. Although there is an argument that if you could afford to visit Canada.. then why can't you travel to a third country such as South Africa (which allows same sex marriage).

The marriage you did attempt should be considered the official start of your conjugal relationship. Your lawyer is correct to make you wait at least 1 year (or more) past this date before submitting your application. You still need to prove "marriage like" relationship. The best way would be at least one more visit from your partner. I believe you've only met twice so far.. which is a concern.

Good luck.
 

SAHIL SINGH

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BC_guy said:
I disagree. My partner and me had a successful conjugal application and we did NOT attempt to get married in a third country. So we are proof this is not an accurate statement. Although there is an argument that if you could afford to visit Canada.. then why can't you travel to a third country such as South Africa (which allows same sex marriage).

The marriage you did attempt should be considered the official start of your conjugal relationship. Your lawyer is correct to make you wait at least 1 year (or more) past this date before submitting your application. You still need to prove "marriage like" relationship. The best way would be at least one more visit from your partner. I believe you've only met twice so far.. which is a concern.

Good luck.
Thanks u said it very well if i could afford to Canada then why.....

yes so far my partner visited me two times and he is going to visit me this summer third time.



what was the documents you submitted to support ur application?

sorry for my bad English.

regards
 

P-cool

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Hi Sahil,

I have been reading about your conjugal application and wondering if you have got approval on that application or not..I am also going to apply for my partner and application will be processed in new delhi. Please keep us posted

Thanks