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Sricand

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As far as I remember, cab companies don't check your PR card or any other document. Since they typically charge you a two-way fare, it doesn't matter to them whether you'll be allowed entry into the border or not. If you're refused, they will just drop you back to buffalo but charge full trip amount.

But since you're a PR, you should be allowed into Canada by CBSA even with expired PR card, so this should not be a problem for you.
Ah got it.. makes sense.. In this case, maybe I will call up some cab companies to also check if they charge any additional waiting charges if there are any potential delays expected at the land border..
 
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armoured

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Ah got it.. makes sense.. In this case, maybe I will call up some cab companies to also check if they charge any additional waiting charges if there are any potential delays expected at the land border..
I think the additional waiting would be the issue. It's possible the cab company would agree to take you to the border and leave you in secondary - or if you're let through with minimal delay, they could drop you at bus station or wherever you like across border to get onward taxi/uber/whatever.

I think from secondary examination a Canadian cab could pick you up - not sure, may depend which crossing.

If it's at the crossing in niagara falls which has a footbridge - well, not exactly fun with luggage, but if you can physically manage it, it's not that far.

(I'm not saying which is better, no idea - just might help you avoid waiting fees).
 

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I think the additional waiting would be the issue. It's possible the cab company would agree to take you to the border and leave you in secondary - or if you're let through with minimal delay, they could drop you at bus station or wherever you like across border to get onward taxi/uber/whatever.

I think from secondary examination a Canadian cab could pick you up - not sure, may depend which crossing.

If it's at the crossing in niagara falls which has a footbridge - well, not exactly fun with luggage, but if you can physically manage it, it's not that far.

(I'm not saying which is better, no idea - just might help you avoid waiting fees).
Agree most cabs will not wait indefinitely and will definitely leave the meter running. Pretty sure distance traveled also factors in to how cab fares are calculated so you may have to pay a set rate to have them wait if they are actually willing to wait in the first place. Also make sure to arrange the cab since most will not be working with their passport on them.
 
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Sricand

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On a separate note, I have another question. With a Passport + electronic Travel Authorization to the US, are there any potential issues traveling on a one-way ticket to US? Are there any chances of 1. Airline denying boarding to US with a one-way ticket; 2. US immigration denying entry due to absence of return ticket? Would an expired Canadian PR card + car rental confirmation (+Canadian job offer letter) to cross into Canada sufficient to prove intent to US Immigration that the purpose is not to disappear into US but rather to transit from US to Canada? Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.
 

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On a separate note, I have another question. With a Passport + electronic Travel Authorization to the US, are there any potential issues traveling on a one-way ticket to US? Are there any chances of 1. Airline denying boarding to US with a one-way ticket; 2. US immigration denying entry due to absence of return ticket? Would an expired Canadian PR card + car rental confirmation (+Canadian job offer letter) to cross into Canada sufficient to prove intent to US Immigration that the purpose is not to disappear into US but rather to transit from US to Canada? Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.
In short: yes, this can be a problem. The safest way is to book a fully refundable flight out of North America, ideally to your country of origin. You can then cancel the flight once you have left the US for Canada.
 
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On a separate note, I have another question. With a Passport + electronic Travel Authorization to the US, are there any potential issues traveling on a one-way ticket to US? Are there any chances of 1. Airline denying boarding to US with a one-way ticket; 2. US immigration denying entry due to absence of return ticket? Would an expired Canadian PR card + car rental confirmation (+Canadian job offer letter) to cross into Canada sufficient to prove intent to US Immigration that the purpose is not to disappear into US but rather to transit from US to Canada? Any thoughts on this would be highly appreciated.
I assume you have a passport from one of the visa-waiver countries to Canada? In that case, are you not able to board a flight directly from your home country to Canada? Just curious
 

armoured

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I assume you have a passport from one of the visa-waiver countries to Canada? In that case, are you not able to board a flight directly from your home country to Canada? Just curious
Being from a visa waiver country does not work for PRs; they won't be allowed to enter without an ETA, and IRCC will not issue ETAs to PRs. PR card or PRTD needed.
 

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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I assume you have a passport from one of the visa-waiver countries to Canada? In that case, are you not able to board a flight directly from your home country to Canada? Just curious
This doesn't help at all. Valid PR card or valid PRTD is still required.
 

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I assume you have a passport from one of the visa-waiver countries to Canada? In that case, are you not able to board a flight directly from your home country to Canada? Just curious
As mentioned by others, the previous poster does not have a valid PR card or PRTD, which is why he/she needs/wants to travel via the US.
 
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Sricand

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As mentioned by others, the previous poster does not have a valid PR card or PRTD, which is why he/she needs/wants to travel via the US.
Just to be safe, I booked a return ticket from US to Home.. denial of entry into US due to questionable intent is the last thing I want on my mind.. Will keep you all posted on my experience..Stay tuned!
 

armoured

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Just to be safe, I booked a return ticket from US to Home.. denial of entry into US due to questionable intent is the last thing I want on my mind.. Will keep you all posted on my experience..Stay tuned!
That is the safer way, of course.

BUT: I don't want anyone to take this as advice, but from what I've seen reported here on the forums, most of the time it looks like US authorities on arrival mostly take at face value that a person with PR status in Canada (who tells them such) is just transiting. (If they have valid US visas of course).

I can't say how much detail they get into or whether they consider whether a PR card is expired, etc. (I presume they know the basics of Canadian PR status but not much detail) But it seems overall they don't look at return tickets very much. (I think often true for Canada as well, esp now that tickets can often be bought last minute and one way at reasonable prices/more conveniently than switching tickets).

Usual warnings, YMMV, etc. I don't travel much at all to USA these days.