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MUFC

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George1978 said:
I should have tried in other province too.I stayed here because I have few distant relatives in Toronto_Other province nobody is there.

Which province have more employment opportunity?I heard AB.Any other?
I was very good employee in my last company.My boss liked me a lot.But they use to send me home because I was agency staff.Permanent staff they have to keep even if its slow.Other wise they will make problems.So when its slow they send agency people home.I cannot object because I was agency.

I am seeing to many people still migrating when there is lot of unemployment here.They have to restrict that.Now all skilled people are coming here and working in factory.So too much demand even for factory job.

6 months back my basement mate migrated with family from my country .He is a mechanical engineer.He is also now doing a labor job.

Most of the software jobs here are outsourced to India.But some software jobs cannot be outsourced & for that jobs here they are bringing people from India on deputation.They pay $2000-$3000 for a good computer programmer on deputation.

They are wise.They wont get a computer programmer for that rate here.The people coming on deputation are happy to come here on deputation because they get the same salary(or more) and a chance to visit Canada or US.Both the company and the person on deputation are happy.Only a Canadian employee will be unhappy because he lost a chance.
This is just another tool , how the corporations are using the difference of the standard of living to earn more money... what Canada is doing for the Canadians in that common scenario... the answer is nothing.
 

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As has been mentioned by a few posters. One of the biggest problems new immigrants and long establish Canadians face is the immigration rate is too high for the current state of the Canadian economy. The result being low wages and unemployment/under employment. Contrary to what many think cutting immigration would be hugely beneficial to immigrants.
 

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The access is very easy in Canada. The requirements to get here with all the legal papers are very low... and the economy can't support this huge volume of new people.
That's is also one of the main reasons why the newcomers are struggling for such a long periods of time after they get here.

For the same reason the competition for the good jobs is so high. Not so much open positions but huge amount of waiting candidates.
paw339 said:
As has been mentioned by a few posters. One of the biggest problems new immigrants and long establish Canadians face is the immigration rate is too high for the current state of the Canadian economy. The result being low wages and unemployment/under employment. Contrary to what many think cutting immigration would be hugely beneficial to immigrants.
I totally agree with you
 

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They now changed the rules as they require people who apply for Permanent Residency to have full time permanent job in high positions before they will be granted the PR.It has changed since JAN 2015.Now my brother came here as International student and he already Graduated working in a part time job,CIC asked him to submit full time permanent job offer with LIMIA with the PR application.
 

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After reaping the benefits of being here, and Canada being a part of your so-called business success, now you despise the country. What a classy personality.
 

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My point is that Canada is just giving the tools , but the people are responsible for their wellbeing after that... just like in every other developed country... that's why I say that Canada is nothing special.

From the information that George1978 provided here, we see that the so called help for people in need is the miserable 600-700$ a month... if I rely on that support can't even pay the half of my rent.
I never thought that the welfare and the so called help is actually so miserable.

If you have work you are fine, but if you don't then the troubles will start very soon... just like everywhere

Nobody can rely on the actual support from the government, because that support is a disgrace for the people in need.
 

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shahmad said:
Hey Guys ..... Why are you wasting time with this MUFC :mad: ........ He just want to pass his free time by engaging everyone in this useless topic ..... there are tons of topic in the forum ....ppl need advices and help and here we are wasting our time with this good for nothing person ........ @ MUFC if you are from such a developed country then why are you here in this forum ..... why do you even have canadian PR and why are you even thinking so hard about loosing PR status ..... forget about Canada and go back to your developed (I doubt) country ..... :mad: :mad:


MUFC said:
My point is that Canada is just giving the tools , but the people are responsible for their wellbeing after that... just like in every other developed country... that's why I say that Canada is nothing special.

From the information that George1978 provided here, we see that the so called help for people in need is the miserable 600-700$ a month... if I rely on that support can't even pay the half of my rent.
I never thought that the welfare and the so called help is actually so miserable.

If you have work you are fine, but if you don't then the troubles will start very soon... just like everywhere

Nobody can rely on the actual support from the government, because that support is a disgrace for the people in need.
 

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George1978 said:
I went 8 years to college in my country.Worked few years in my country as computer programmer and 2 years in Dubai as computer programmer.I migrated to Canada thinking I will get a good IT job here.My parents are old (now 70).They need someone there for support now.I thought if I get a good job here later I could sponsor my parents to Canada.Things didn't work out like I expected. With my labor job pay I cannot sponsor them.My parents are getting older and sick.My dad is getting blind.They need somebody to take care of them.My only option is to return.But after working in Canada as a labor for 3 years I wont be able to get a computer programmer job in my country now.I will be treated outdated in my field.


My plan was to do a good IT course and find a job in my country and take care of my parents during their last years and later return to Canada.I felt the course and experience will help me find a good IT job here later.Continuing like this is not good.I need citizenship for that.Other wise I have to live here and there for completing the PR requirements.It will be difficult.
Brother George, endure. Karma is to do the right thing under the most trying situation. Don't snap now, no matter the cost. Endure. This experience will be your saving lifeline for all the hardships that will keep coming in your (and ours) life. Endure.

Maximum a year. Learn meditation or prayer or prayerful meditation...whichever your faith allows. And endure.
 

George1978

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Leon said:
Have you ever considered doing an apprenticeship? Normally, you start at a higher wage than a helper and each year, you go to school for a couple of months, get EI during that time and then return to your job and make even more money. Instead of making $9 per hour for 3 years, you could have finished an apprenticeship in 3 years and had $20-30 an hour by now.

Also, if you can't get a job where you are, move along. That's Canada. Canadians often move to another city / another province for jobs.
I tried applying for apprenticeship long back but that web site always say "we are not receiving new applications right now".So stopped trying.May be there is a particular period for applying.I don't know when

Will they give EI for going to school?I didn't know that information.
 

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Yes they do. There is something called Alberta Works in Alberta. Heard it from a friend. Dont know about other provinces. Check with them. If yes, move there, entail the apprenticed training and EI from Alberta and start building up your life.

Check with Alberta Catholic Calgary Immigration Services (CCIS). I came across one guy who went through them and now working as a technologist. But remember processing times in Alberta and other Western provinces (like Saskatchewan) are very slow. So move on a temporary basis and figure out for the next three months.
 

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Alberta Works is welfare and has nothing to do with EI for apprentices although they may be able to get further financial assistance there, for example if you are trying to support a big family on EI.

If you look at http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/goc/apprenticeship/incentivegrant/faq/financial.shtml it says you are eligible for EI as an apprentice if you have enough hours worked. This is not only tied to AB. If you haven't claimed EI before, you have a 2 week waiting period, after that you get EI. If you go back to school within a year after your last claim, they simply re-open your last claim and you don't have a waiting period.
 

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George1978 said:
I went 8 years to college in my country.Worked few years in my country as computer programmer and 2 years in Dubai as computer programmer.I migrated to Canada thinking I will get a good IT job here.My parents are old (now 70).They need someone there for support now.I thought if I get a good job here later I could sponsor my parents to Canada.Things didn't work out like I expected. With my labor job pay I cannot sponsor them.My parents are getting older and sick.My dad is getting blind.They need somebody to take care of them.My only option is to return.But after working in Canada as a labor for 3 years I wont be able to get a computer programmer job in my country now.I will be treated outdated in my field.


My plan was to do a good IT course and find a job in my country and take care of my parents during their last years and later return to Canada.I felt the course and experience will help me find a good IT job here later.Continuing like this is not good.I need citizenship for that.Other wise I have to live here and there for completing the PR requirements.It will be difficult.
Sorry about your story man. My suggestion is to get a short degree from Canada and keep applying for jobs. You will eventually get a decent job offer. Also, these days, routine Citizenship application takes less than a year. If I were you, I would stay a few more months and try again to get a decent job here. Good luck man!
 

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This thread made me realized that the so called government help is not even enough for a person in need to pay even half of a regular rent... what about the food, the insurance for the car, the gas for the car, the cell phone bill...

Canada needs the people to work and to pay the taxes, and when the people are in need then they have the great chance to take back some portion of their own money which they've already put in the system.

This is why I say that Canada is just like every other developed country, because if a person rely only on government support he/she will be in big financial trouble.
 

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MUFC said:
This thread made me realized that the so called government help is not even enough for a person in need to pay even half of a regular rent... what about the food, the insurance for the car, the gas for the car, the cell phone bill...

Canada needs the people to work and to pay the taxes, and when the people are in need then they have the great chance to take back some portion of their own money which they've already put in the system.

This is why I say that Canada is just like every other developed country, because if a person rely only on government support he/she will be in big financial trouble.
You well described what Capitalism is.
 

George1978

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I think the problem is there are lot of skilled immigrants unemployed or underemployed here.But big companies for their financial benefit declare that they don't have enough skilled people and bring people from outside.So govt records will show that Canada need more skilled people & allow more skilled people to migrate and it again increase the unemployment and under employment.I know qualified Canadian nurses unemployed and at the same time nurses are coming on work permit.Govt should allow only work visa if there is 100% need for that skilled worker.In my country we have employment exchange in each province.If you are unemployed or underemployed you register there.The govt will thus know the status of each skilled jobs.If some thing like that is available in Canada companies cannot make fake skilled worker demand.If some company apply for a nurse telling there is no enough nurse in the province just check the record.If nurses are available reject the application and if there is real demand allow job visa.

Other wise this country will soon be a place full of unemployment and underemployment.

Long back there was an issue with RBC. They gave job visa when there was lot of unemployment here. RBC later apologized.But after 1 month my room mate came on job visa for TD.So immediately after such a controversy TD did that again.

My friend studied here but didn't get a full time job in his profession.To apply for PR he needs that.He got a fake full time job in his profession.But he is paying high price.He is paying tax for the job he really don't have + lawyer fee etc.It comes around $10000 a year.

So I think the new rule will make lot of such fake jobs for getting PR.If you need a full time skilled job in Canada to get PR just pay $10000/year to agent you get PR.A better skilled person who cannot pay $10000/year cannot migrate.

In my home country for private jobs reference do matter.But government jobs are 100% merit. So if you are very skilled and even if you don't have contacts you still will get a govt job.All govt posts are filled by common entrance test.There is a body responsible for such exams.So you score high marks then nobody can deny you the job.

Here even for govt jobs they need contacts.Every year I applied for lot of such jobs(lower level)but nobody calls for interview.Thats so bad.

At least govt jobs should be based on merit.

I am not telling my country is corruption free.There is much more corruption in my country.Thats why I moved here.But there its from Top to bottom.Here its only Top corruption.Common man cannot do any corruption in his country and corporates do a lot.

It should be either no corruption or all corruption.