Request application rejection

[hsbalouch]

I don't care. The OP could be a Christian Canadian, and the applicant a member of the minority of Christians in Pakistan. We don't know. We have heard from OP exactly twice, and you and a few others jumped and judged without thought and only religiously based assumptions. This isn't an appropriate way to treat another person whether you are Christian, Muslim, Athiest or .....

lol, so what if you dont care? all your argument is baseless, I have mentioned this already that its my opinion, I never told OP to do this and do not do that, it is a multicultural platform where people from all backgrounds shares their stories and seek help, by doing this they are voluntarily allowing people to come up with their experties and experiences and help them or share their experiences!

OP is free to do whatever he could or wanted, on the other hand, did I bring religion in this all, absolutely not, people like you lives in their own world and come up with anything that makes them happy and superior to others, stupidity in other words!
this discussion was solely based on general assumptions about a relationship in a particular culture (not religion) but people like you would do anything to prove them right doesnt matter what they have to come up with!!!

 

[Habibti]

Quit judging people, you don't know the details behind the OP's life or his relationship!! Stop assuming things.

We should say that to our visa officer lol lol

 

[newdelhi2011]

I don't care. The OP could be a Christian Canadian, and the applicant a member of the minority of Christians in Pakistan. We don't know. We have heard from OP exactly twice, and you and a few others jumped and judged without thought and only religiously based assumptions. This isn't an appropriate way to treat another person whether you are Christian, Muslim, Athiest or .....

What different does it make if OP is a christian canadian and applicant is a christian pakistani?
The only point that me and other are trying to make here is that it's unfair for his wife if he is withdrawing his application just because of lengthy process. From his post, it appears to me that he is tired of waiting. No one is jumping to any conclusion and if he wants to withdraw an application, he should do it like a man and discuss with his wife or x-wife. Why would you wanna hide your decision of withdrawing from your wife who has been waiting just like him??????

As that being said, there can be more in this story then just what we have heard here.

 

[rjessome]

The OP no longer wants to be married to the person he sponsored. Whatever the reason and as horrible as it is for marriages that end (no matter what the circumstances) if he continues to proceed with the sponsorship, that is marriage fraud by legal definition under IRPA. So whatever posters might "think" about his reasons for looking at withdrawing the sponsorship, legally he is doing the RIGHT thing by withdrawing.

 

[newdelhi2011]

If OP no longer wants to be married to the person he sponsored, he should divorce her and withdraw his application. Legally nothing wrong in doing so.

He should also let her know of his actions and not leave her in limbo.

"But the case is already in process now in Canadian High commission, Islamabad(well it is for past more than two years). do I have to send a letter to High Commission in Islamabad? if I do, will they inform the applicant (my wife) that I have withdrawn the application or they will simply reject the case?"

 

[aerogurl87]

He clearly stated that his wife still loves him, but that because it's taken so long he doesn't have feelings for her anymore. Does that sound like real love to you?

To me it sounds like being realistic. I love my boyfriend to death but if I had to be apart from him for years after trying to be together, eventually the relationship would die. You can't have a real relationship where there is no end to the distance in sight. Two people can't build a life together when one is half way across the world.

 

[annabruce]

lol, so what if you dont care? all your argument is baseless, I have mentioned this already that its my opinion, I never told OP to do this and do not do that, it is a multicultural platform where people from all backgrounds shares their stories and seek help, by doing this they are voluntarily allowing people to come up with their experties and experiences and help them or share their experiences!

OP is free to do whatever he could or wanted, on the other hand, did I bring religion in this all, absolutely not, people like you lives in their own world and come up with anything that makes them happy and superior to others, stupidity in other words!
this discussion was solely based on general assumptions about a relationship in a particular culture (not religion) but people like you would do anything to prove them right doesnt matter what they have to come up with!!!

[quote author=hsbalouch] I think OP is a liar and he posted this just for fun or seek some attention from people, if he really wanted to withdraw he could have asked it straightaway, why trying to be cool that he didnt have any feelings for her, if not then why gor married at first place? I bet he is some sick minded hell bound idiot !!! [/quote]

"hell bound idiot"

Religion is without any doubt at the root of your objection. Take a long hard look at yourself, please.

 

[annabruce]

The OP no longer wants to be married to the person he sponsored. Whatever the reason and as horrible as it is for marriages that end (no matter what the circumstances) if he continues to proceed with the sponsorship, that is marriage fraud by legal definition under IRPA. So whatever posters might "think" about his reasons for looking at withdrawing the sponsorship, legally he is doing the RIGHT thing by withdrawing.

Exactly. Contrary to the opinion of a few of you, the only reason why you are entitled to immigrate to my country under the family category is because of your relationship with a Canadian Citizen or Permanent resident. If that CC or PR no longer wants you, I'm sorry, that's just the way it is. Relationships often begin in a very genuine and real manner, but unfortunately also reach an ending. This is life. It is repeated over and over again between Canadian Citizens. Why should this reality be any different simply because of immigration.

Guilting a CC or PR into letting you into Canada is wrong. Period.

 

[aerogurl87]

Exactly. Contrary to the opinion of a few of you, the only reason why you are entitled to immigrate to my country under the family category is because of your relationship with a Canadian Citizen or Permanent resident. If that CC or PR no longer wants you, I'm sorry, that's just the way it is. Relationships often begin in a very genuine and real manner, but unfortunately also reach an ending. This is life. It is repeated over and over again between Canadian Citizens. Why should this reality be any different simply because of immigration.

Guilting a CC or PR into letting you into Canada is wrong. Period.

annabruce, I couldn't have said it better myself. If my boyfriend wanted to end our relationship, yes I'd be heartbroken, but I wouldn't be entitled to living in Canada. I get to live here because he wants me here with him. If that were to ever change then yes I should go back to my home country. Life is unfair, and just because her going back home may lead to a not so great life for her, does that place the OP on the hook to live out the rest of his days miserable while he waits for something that may never happen, just to save this poor innocent woman who he once loved? I think not. As long as he tells her straight up that he's ending the process, then I see nothing wrong with his decision. The OP has the right to be happy, and obviously this relationship is counterproductive to that happening. She also has the right to be happy and not be stuck in a relationship where her partner no longer loves her but she's pining after him still. Time for them both to go their separate ways and find happiness with other people, because in the end that will be the right thing to do for them both.

 

[annabruce]

annabruce, I couldn't have said it better myself. If my boyfriend wanted to end our relationship, yes I'd be heartbroken, but I wouldn't be entitled to living in Canada. I get to live here because he wants me here with him. If that were to ever change then yes I should go back to my home country. Life is unfair, and just because her going back home may lead to a not so great life for her, does that place the OP on the hook to live out the rest of his days miserable while he waits for something that may never happen, just to save this poor innocent woman who he once loved? I think not. As long as he tells her straight up that he's ending the process, then I see nothing wrong with his decision. The OP has the right to be happy, and obviously this relationship is counterproductive to that happening. She also has the right to be happy and not be stuck in a relationship where her partner no longer loves her but she's pining after him still. Time for them both to go their separate ways and find happiness with other people, because in the end that will be the right thing to do for them both.

"straight-up" is the key. I'm not convinced he was wanting to hide the truth from her. I think he feels badly, and doesn't want to shock her with a rejection letter from immigration. He wants to tell her himself, but at the same time knows he must get the letter in the mail soon given how slow moving they are at processing the mail. I can just imagine how he must feel. He doesn't want to hurt her but at the same time doesn't want to be stuck with the sponsorship obligation, nor marked for breaking immigration law.

 

[hsbalouch]

"straight-up" is the key. I'm not convinced he was wanting to hide the truth from her. I think he feels badly, and doesn't want to shock her with a rejection letter from immigration. He wants to tell her himself, but at the same time knows he must get the letter in the mail soon given how slow moving they are at processing the mail. I can just imagine how he must feel. He doesn't want to hurt her but at the same time doesn't want to be stuck with the sponsorship obligation, nor marked for breaking immigration law.

this is awesome, you have your own conclusions in everything, above paragraph seems like you wrote for yourself and simply replaced all ''I's'' with ''he'' bravo!

using words like hell or heaven doesnt bring religion in such discussions, oh well but you and your conclusions!
we are very self satisfied ones aren't we?

 

[AAL1984]

Exactly. Contrary to the opinion of a few of you, the only reason why you are entitled to immigrate to my country under the family category is because of your relationship with a Canadian Citizen or Permanent resident. If that CC or PR no longer wants you, I'm sorry, that's just the way it is. Relationships often begin in a very genuine and real manner, but unfortunately also reach an ending. This is life. It is repeated over and over again between Canadian Citizens. Why should this reality be any different simply because of immigration.

Guilting a CC or PR into letting you into Canada is wrong. Period.

Exactly! Glad to know there are still some rational people out there!

 

[rjessome]

this is awesome, you have your own conclusions in everything, above paragraph seems like you wrote for yourself and simply replaced all ''I's'' with ''he'' bravo!

using words like hell or heaven doesnt bring religion in such discussions, oh well but you and your conclusions!
we are very self satisfied ones aren't we?

Well I am not "self-satisfied" in the least. Bottom line is (without the moral majority weighing in or other extraneous stuff) he does NOT want to be married to her anymore AND he is the Canadian sponsor. By LAW, he MUST withdraw his sponsorship or he is commiting marriage fraud (and so is she although she doesn't know it). She is NOT a member of the family class and cannot be a recipient of H&C considerations. So as sorry as many feel for her (and I must admit a pang of sympathy) the dude does not want to be responsible for her from an immigration perspective. So many people on here advocate on behalf of the 2 year conditional visa saying that the sponsored spouse should go back home if the marriage ends within 2 years of landing. So why are there so many bleeding hearts about a marriage ending BEFORE landing?

On a personal level of course I feel sorry for the girl. And I understand that the OP is trying to see if there is an easy way out with the application just being "rejected". But from a practitioner's perspective, I've seen too many cases that go to appeal because the FAMILY wants it to and the sponsor will literally BLOW it at the appeal (on purpose) because THEY don't want it. It's kinda funny (but not really) when you can see this happening especially when you know that you've prepared them for every possible question and they PURPOSEFULLY blow it. They want to lose.

So what's better? Having the OP continue and then blow it at the appeal? Or end it now to give both parties more opportunity to live their lives? Sorry but the tax payer is already taxed enough. If it's done, end it now before wasting thousands of tax-payer dollars.

I don't know about the wife in this situation but I'd rather be alone than unhappy with someone who doesn't want me. Join that to a whole new culture, geography, system, language, etc. JEEZ! Let me out NOW while I can still make choices in my own life before I'm thrown to the wolves!

 

[shamsia]

You guys are just going on and on from a Canadian and an immigration perspective. And you guys are right in your own way. We, on the other hand, are talking from a religious, moral and cultural perspective. And you guys do NOT know the culture of the people or region like we do. WE are those people living in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and we know what we are talking about. We are not a bunch of irrational people shooting our mouths off. Neither do we expect you guys to understand the moral and unindividualistic context we speak from. I mean seriously, you are not living here, you do not belong here, and neither do you know the way things are done here. So I do not expect you to understand why our sympathies are with the wife. Can you guys please drop the accusations and get off your high horse? Thank you.

 

[rjessome]

You guys are just going on and on from a Canadian and an immigration perspective. And you guys are right in your own way. We, on the other hand, are talking from a religious, moral and cultural perspective. And you guys do NOT know the culture of the people or region like we do. WE are those people living in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and we know what we are talking about. We are not a bunch of irrational people shooting our mouths off. Neither do we expect you guys to understand the moral and unindividualistic context we speak from. I mean seriously, you are not living here, you do not belong here, and neither do you know the way things are done here. So I do not expect you to understand why our sympathies are with the wife. Can you guys please drop the accusations and get off your high horse? Thank you.

I'm sorry but I fail to see the point of your comment. This whole forum is about immigration to Canada. If you want to talk about moral or religious perspecitive from a Pakistani point of view, I'm all for that BUT not on this forum. YOU have to understand (just like you are asking others to do) that there is more than one perspective, culture, religion, belief on this forum. But the actual INTENTION of this forum is to give LEGAL advice. So like it or not, the legal choice is for the OP to withdraw his sponsorship. There is NO other LEGAL choice. So feel free to expound on the "cultural" or "proper" way to do things in Pakistani/Islamic cuture if you choose. But at the end of the day, the CANADIAN WAY is what matters most and that means applying the LAW per IRPA.