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AAL1984 said:
What on Earth are you on about? What you wrote is infused with a lot of jibberish.

Unless you know this man or his wife personally I suggest you shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions.



He asked a simple question, not a detailed analysis of his relationship. You don't know this guy or his story, he's just a screen name to you.

To the OP, yes you can withdraw it at any time since no final decision has been made as of yet.

Just mail a document quoting the file and UCI#, stating that you wish to withdraw the case, I would send it to both the Islamabad and Mississauga office just to be safe, and it won't hurt to get it notarized by an oath commissioner.

Also I would write on the envelope "Urgent, case withdrawal"
He clearly stated that his wife still loves him, but that because it's taken so long he doesn't have feelings for her anymore. Does that sound like real love to you?
 

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AAL1984 said:
Quit judging people, you don't know the details behind the OP's life or his relationship!! Stop assuming things.
did you even read the original post? go and read that first!

he clearly stated that his wife is a nice girl and still loves him but its him who has no feelings for her, why did he marry her at first place then?

I just replied to what he wrote about a relationship and you dont have to be agree with what people says but you can express what you feel !!!
 

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hsbalouch said:
did you even read the original post? go and read that first!

he clearly stated that his wife is a nice girl and still loves him but its him who has no feelings for her, why did he marry her at first place then?

I just replied to what he wrote about a relationship and you dont have to be agree with what people says but you can express what you feel !!!

Some of you people who are being critical of the OP really need to give your head a shake!

Everyone of us has had to stuggle through the same issue in our relationship at one point or another of being seperated by distance. Now, add to that the struggle of illness like TB. This guy has been struggling through this now for three years. Love is only one part of a successful marriage, and it isn't necessarily the most important part of a marriage. Distance is a real struggle that seriously damages feelings of love. Very few of us are truly capable of lasting in a long distance relationship. This does not make him or anyone else a bad person.

He, just like she, has the right to live a normal healthy life.

By the way, to be perfectly honest, I don't know if Anna and I would have survived another year of distance. We were getting pretty desperate towards the end of the distance portion of our relationship. This is why we subjected ourselves to the inland application process rather than the outland which would have resulted in a shorter application processing time. I can only guess at the frustration some of you must feel who have been seperated for longer than the 2 years which seperated Anna and me.
 

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AAL1984 said:
Quit judging people, you don't know the details behind the OP's life or his relationship!! Stop assuming things.
Hey there,

You are right when you say that one must not be too quick to jump to conclusions. But I do not think that that applies to this case. The consequences of the OP's actions have an impact on the immigration process, directly or indirectly. The timeline for Pakistan spouses is already at a whopping 26 months. Cases like these force the VOs to be that much more careful while processing applications, which increase the timeline invariably. Hence, I believe we have a right to voice our concerns.

Also, the people here speak from a social, religious and regional perspective. I do not know which country you are from (you are Canadian? Im guessing from your visa office). The impact the OP's decision is going to have on a girl from a country like Pakistan or India can only be understood if you have lived here and dealt with the complexities of it all. And besides, marriage vows are to be taken seriously and the OP's reason is flimsy to say the least. And TB is definitely curable!

Im not speaking from a Western perspective, but behaviour like this is not considered appropriate. Patience and faith are a cornerstone of our religion and culture, and the OP's post is a blatant rebuttal of that. Yes, distance does play havoc with a relationship, but you need to be stronger than that.

I apologize if anyone has taken offense to anything I have said. Just trying to explain the perspectives we speak from. On second thoughts, I feel she is better off without this guy who doesnt know the meaning of "in sickness and in health"...
 

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shamsia said:
Hey there,

You are right when you say that one must not be too quick to jump to conclusions. But I do not think that that applies to this case. The consequences of the OP's actions have an impact on the immigration process, directly or indirectly. The timeline for Pakistan spouses is already at a whopping 26 months. Cases like these force the VOs to be that much more careful while processing applications, which increase the timeline invariably. Hence, I believe we have a right to voice our concerns.

Also, the people here speak from a social, religious and regional perspective. I do not know which country you are from (you are Canadian? Im guessing from your visa office). The impact the OP's decision is going to have on a girl from a country like Pakistan or India can only be understood if you have lived here and dealt with the complexities of it all. And besides, marriage vows are to be taken seriously and the OP's reason is flimsy to say the least. And TB is definitely curable!

Im not speaking from a Western perspective, but behaviour like this is not considered appropriate. Patience and faith are a cornerstone of our religion and culture, and the OP's post is a blatant rebuttal of that. Yes, distance does play havoc with a relationship, but you need to be stronger than that.

I apologize if anyone has taken offense to anything I have said. Just trying to explain the perspectives we speak from. On second thoughts, I feel she is better off without this guy who doesnt know the meaning of "in sickness and in health"...
well said and totally agreed !!!

moreover, those who cant bear the pressure of this all and ends up breaking the relationship are not into a genuine relationship at first place!!!
 

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hsbalouch said:
well said and totally agreed !!!

moreover, those who cant bear the pressure of this all and ends up breaking the relationship are not into a genuine relationship at first place!!!
I don't agree. Very few people can handle the distance and time apart no matter how genuine their relationship is. That's why most people don't choose to involve themselves in a distance relationship. Furthermore, those same people who handle the distance so brilliantly more often than not fail once they have to live with each other all the time. My relationship with Anna has gone through significant changes since we started living together.
 

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annabruce said:
I don't agree. Very few people can handle the distance and time apart no matter how genuine their relationship is. That's why most people don't choose to involve themselves in a distance relationship. Furthermore, those same people who handle the distance so brilliantly more often than not fail once they have to live with each other all the time. My relationship with Anna has gone through significant changes since we started living together.
yes because you are just referring to your case, we are discussing at a completely different culture, no offence but the society OP is from is very very different and majority of the people survive long distance relationship, it's a big fact and we experience this very often in an asian country especially sub-continent!
this is the reason why we have reacted this way because its quite unusual! moreover, is it wrong to condemn someone who is planning to leave their spouse when she needs him the most? atleast on moral grounds!!!
and ofcourse everyone has the right to differ from what other says!!!
 

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shamsia said:
Hey there,

You are right when you say that one must not be too quick to jump to conclusions. But I do not think that that applies to this case. The consequences of the OP's actions have an impact on the immigration process, directly or indirectly. The timeline for Pakistan spouses is already at a whopping 26 months. Cases like these force the VOs to be that much more careful while processing applications, which increase the timeline invariably. Hence, I believe we have a right to voice our concerns.

Also, the people here speak from a social, religious and regional perspective. I do not know which country you are from (you are Canadian? Im guessing from your visa office). The impact the OP's decision is going to have on a girl from a country like Pakistan or India can only be understood if you have lived here and dealt with the complexities of it all. And besides, marriage vows are to be taken seriously and the OP's reason is flimsy to say the least. And TB is definitely curable!

Im not speaking from a Western perspective, but behaviour like this is not considered appropriate. Patience and faith are a cornerstone of our religion and culture, and the OP's post is a blatant rebuttal of that. Yes, distance does play havoc with a relationship, but you need to be stronger than that.

I apologize if anyone has taken offense to anything I have said. Just trying to explain the perspectives we speak from. On second thoughts, I feel she is better off without this guy who doesnt know the meaning of "in sickness and in health"...
Divorce is perfectly valid in Islam, it may be seen as a last resort but Islam definitely allows both men and women to divorce. Also I highly highly doubt the OP would be able to explain his full feelings for wanting to leave his wife on an internet forum, especially in a single paragraph. Divorce definitely happens in the Canadian Muslim community, perhaps not as much as non Muslims but it happens.

All I'm saying is you don't know the details behind the OP's personal life, you don't know the girl or the guy and the finer points of their relationship, no one knows that. You are just assuming things because they are from Pakistan. I know lots of people from Pakistan in Canada , their just like any other human being- some good, some bad, some in the middle, there is nothing special or different about them.

Just because someone is from a certain country doesn't mean their all the same and act the same, there is such a thing as individuality. World is not black or white, it's various shades of grey.

No one should be forced to stay in a relationship they don't want to with someone they don't care for or love, just because of culture. In the long run do you think it is good for the girl to come to Canada and live with a guy who deep in his heart resents her and has no feelings for her? That way both people will be miserable.
 
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sidkrose

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hsbalouch said:
yes because you are just referring to your case, we are discussing at a completely different culture, no offence but the society OP is from is very very different and majority of the people survive long distance relationship, it's a big fact and we experience this very often in an asian country especially sub-continent!
this is the reason why we have reacted this way because its quite unusual! moreover, is it wrong to condemn someone who is planning to leave their spouse when she needs him the most? atleast on moral grounds!!!
and ofcourse everyone has the right to differ from what other says!!!
Great, so don't stay with her because you love her and want to be with her, stay with her for vague "moral" reasons, and to get her into Canada? To me, that is much more jeopardizing to the "genuine relationships" that have to go through the CIC rigmarole.

Let's everyone stop judging the OP, as he is clearly not doing anything legally or even morally (to "western society" anyway) wrong.
 

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sidkrose said:
Great, so don't stay with her because you love her and want to be with her, stay with her for vague "moral" reasons, and to get her into Canada? To me, that is much more jeopardizing to the "genuine relationships" that have to go through the CIC rigmarole.

Let's everyone stop judging the OP, as he is clearly not doing anything legally or even morally (to "western society" anyway) wrong.
lol, I clearly mentioned everyone has the right to whatever they want to say! expressing yourself is far different than judging!!!
 

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hsbalouch said:
yes because you are just referring to your case, we are discussing at a completely different culture, no offence but the society OP is from is very very different and majority of the people survive long distance relationship, it's a big fact and we experience this very often in an asian country especially sub-continent!
this is the reason why we have reacted this way because its quite unusual! moreover, is it wrong to condemn someone who is planning to leave their spouse when she needs him the most? atleast on moral grounds!!!
and ofcourse everyone has the right to differ from what other says!!!
True. However, in reality we only know about the would be immigrant's culture. We don't know anything about the sponsor's (OP) culture, do we? In fact, we don't really know anything at all. We are simply imposing are own feelings and attitude on his reality. Therefore, using my own case as a point of reference is no less valid than your own criticism of the OP.
 

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annabruce said:
True. However, in reality we only know about the would be immigrant's culture. We don't know anything about the sponsor's (OP) culture, do we? In fact, we don't really know anything at all. We are simply imposing are own feelings and attitude on his reality. Therefore, using my own case as a point of reference is no less valid than your own criticism of the OP.
I am from the same culture as of OPs which made me jump in the discussion !!!
 

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hsbalouch said:
I am from the same culture as of OPs which made me jump in the discussion !!!
No. You have made an assumption. You don't know the OPs culture. He did not state his personal background. He has only stated, "Islamabad", for his wife, the applicant. They could be from very different backgrounds and cultures. We don't know. Insufficient information.
 

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annabruce said:
No. You have made an assumption. You don't know the OPs culture. He did not state his personal background. He has only stated, "Islamabad", for his wife, the applicant. They could be from very different backgrounds and cultures. We don't know. Insufficient information.
Islamabad is handling applications for pakistan and afghanistan and both countries more or less has the same culture, suppose if they are from afghanistan, they are even more strict in such manners!!!
 

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hsbalouch said:
Islamabad is handling applications for pakistan and afghanistan and both countries more or less has the same culture, suppose if they are from afghanistan, they are even more strict in such manners!!!
I don't care. The OP could be a Christian Canadian, and the applicant a member of the minority of Christians in Pakistan. We don't know. We have heard from OP exactly twice, and you and a few others jumped and judged without thought and only religiously based assumptions. This isn't an appropriate way to treat another person whether you are Christian, Muslim, Athiest or .....