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I used to like Conservatives but now i am against them just. Especially our honorable immigration minister under his supervision the timeline for spousal visas has doubled in some countries. First of all cons are stupid for making a fat bachelor a minister of immigration. I got nothing against for parents but they can give out conditional visa such they are allowed to visit and stay in canada but have to pay for medical. Cons lie to us about everything from the budget to health if you believe them good for you but i hope they dont get majority or we are doomed
 
Bangkokcanuck said:
I am pretty surprised at the level of support the Liberals still receive. They are pretty close to the NDP in policy it seems these days and really could Canada afford to have the modern Day Bob Rae in power, I don't think that Ontario ever fully recovered from that.

But it seems to my POV that the Conservatives are the least likely to turn Canada into a 100% nanny state.. I don't know about reversing the current level but standing still would be somewhat of a relief.

I agree: Canada is close to being a "nanny" state, which means high taxes necessary to support the huge bureaucracy required to administer this socialism.

I recently read the list of services provided by Service Canada. What a large list of services and what a huge expense! The underlying principle seems to be that immigrants (and Canadians using the services too) are idiots who cannot function on their own at a basic level.

I may seem harsh, and I invite anyone with a different viewpoint to help me understand why it is necessary to provide these services. Getting/renewing a passport -- I understand; that's a valuable service.

But taxpayers are also paying for 330 Canada Prenatal Nutrition Program sites around the country. Not surprisingly these sites report that they are doing good work, and so the funding continues. These sites have not been audited, to judge from the Auditor General's annual reports, so we have no way to know if they are really earning their keep.

Canada produced in 2009 a huge report explaining how to reduce injuries to children involved in sports. The report gives many websites to refer to – maintained by Health and Welfare Canada and other departments. But surely any parent willing to sort through all these websites is already a dedicated and careful parent, and unlikely to expose his/her child to needless danger. The careless parent is unlikely to do this research, and so the wisdom of the report preaches to the already-converted, and misses the proper target audience. Result: a waste of taxpayers’ money.

Example of a recommendation of the report: putting a child in the top bunk eposes him to the risk of falling. Really? I slept in a top bunk as a child, but my parents installed a barricade. How did my parents think of this without the help of an expensive government report? Common sense, something the report’s authors seem to believe is in short supply among Canadians.

.Another useful recommendation of the report. Leaving a baby unattended in a bath seat, in a bath tub, exposes the baby to the risk of drowning. Again, really?! And again, if the parent is careless enough to leave a baby unattended in a bath tub, he/she is probably not going to be reading reports on proper child care.

I could go on, but won’t: it is too easy to find questionable uses of tax dollars by bureaucrats – who seem to believe that most people lack common sense (debatable) and they need a government report to correct their behaviour (doubtful). Actually, the Auditor general’s Report each year exposes may bureaucratic practices that should cause taxpayers to cringe. And each year the bureaucrats spend many person-hours (that’s your tax dollars) defending their practices, rather than correcting their practices.

What’s the point? Keep governments small – whether headed by Conservatives, Liberals, or the NDP -- restrict their responsibilities to the basic necessary services, and stop them from expanding their empires. No matter how nice the service might sound in principle, it almost always loses its benefit in the inefficient, self-serving hands of bureaucrats.
 
toby said:
I agree: Canada is close to being a "nanny" state, which means high taxes necessary to support the huge bureaucracy required to administer this socialism.

The only innovation in this respect that we've seen from the current government is to extend health care to GM & Chrysler. :^P
 
Are you kidding me... what a joke. The whole election is a joke,

You better be looking at past policies and not fruitful election promises aimed and getting 90-percent of the naive voters that actually believe that crap.

I hope for a majority either way so we can stop with all this crap, good job liberals for another election...
 
Some immigration lawyers have weighed in on the topic of what the Conservative government has meant for immigrants.

http://bit.ly/ga21bQ
 
toby said:
I agree: Canada is close to being a "nanny" state, which means high taxes necessary to support the huge bureaucracy required to administer this socialism.

I recently read the list of services provided by Service Canada. What a large list of services and what a huge expense! The underlying principle seems to be that immigrants (and Canadians using the services too) are idiots who cannot function on their own at a basic level.

I may seem harsh, and I invite anyone with a different viewpoint to help me understand why it is necessary to provide these services. Getting/renewing a passport -- I understand; that's a valuable service.

But taxpayers are also paying for 330 Canada Prenatal Nutrition Program sites around the country. Not surprisingly these sites report that they are doing good work, and so the funding continues. These sites have not been audited, to judge from the Auditor General's annual reports, so we have no way to know if they are really earning their keep.

Canada produced in 2009 a huge report explaining how to reduce injuries to children involved in sports. The report gives many websites to refer to – maintained by Health and Welfare Canada and other departments. But surely any parent willing to sort through all these websites is already a dedicated and careful parent, and unlikely to expose his/her child to needless danger. The careless parent is unlikely to do this research, and so the wisdom of the report preaches to the already-converted, and misses the proper target audience. Result: a waste of taxpayers' money.

Example of a recommendation of the report: putting a child in the top bunk eposes him to the risk of falling. Really? I slept in a top bunk as a child, but my parents installed a barricade. How did my parents think of this without the help of an expensive government report? Common sense, something the report's authors seem to believe is in short supply among Canadians.

.Another useful recommendation of the report. Leaving a baby unattended in a bath seat, in a bath tub, exposes the baby to the risk of drowning. Again, really?! And again, if the parent is careless enough to leave a baby unattended in a bath tub, he/she is probably not going to be reading reports on proper child care.

I could go on, but won't: it is too easy to find questionable uses of tax dollars by bureaucrats – who seem to believe that most people lack common sense (debatable) and they need a government report to correct their behaviour (doubtful). Actually, the Auditor general's Report each year exposes may bureaucratic practices that should cause taxpayers to cringe. And each year the bureaucrats spend many person-hours (that's your tax dollars) defending their practices, rather than correcting their practices.

What's the point? Keep governments small – whether headed by Conservatives, Liberals, or the NDP -- restrict their responsibilities to the basic necessary services, and stop them from expanding their empires. No matter how nice the service might sound in principle, it almost always loses its benefit in the inefficient, self-serving hands of bureaucrats.


while in the United states (that is not considered a nanny state) they waste so much money in defence....Services in this country, at least, are for the general well being of people and of course there is a whole of a lot of waste in the public sector. they just could cut a bit the spending in the most useless sectors (including going to war in afghanistan),...but this conservative government hasn't done much about it....i don't like a government that spends 1 billion dollars for one day at the G8 /G20 and wants to spend 30 billions for fighter jets. so because you think the solution lies into spending less, i advise you not to vote for conservatives....
 
Inlandappl said:
while in the United states (that is not considered a nanny state) they waste so much money in defence....Services in this country, at least, are for the general well being of people and of course there is a whole of a lot of waste in the public sector. they just could cut a bit the spending in the most useless sectors (including going to war in afghanistan),...but this conservative government hasn't done much about it....i don't like a government that spends 1 billion dollars for one day at the G8 /G20 and wants to spend 30 billions for fighter jets. so because you think the solution lies into spending less, i advise you not to vote for conservatives....

They are all wasteful spenders of taxpayers' dollars. It's hard to know whom to vote for. Discussions of politics usually end in statements like "there are really only two people capable of running the country: you and me -- but I'm not too sure about you!" :-)
 
toby said:
They are all wasteful spenders of taxpayers' dollars. It's hard to know whom to vote for. Discussions of politics usually end in statements like "there are really only two people capable of running the country: you and me -- but I'm not too sure about you!" :-)

Sadly, it's so on all points.

I have to say that it's a bit of a relief that the NDP are taking interest away from the Bloc. Having one party operating in only one province is bad for the country, especially when that party is separatist.