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canada14

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Hello,
I'm in the process of compiling proof of my relationship with my husband, whom I'm sponsoring while living with him aboard. During our engagement in 2011 we were apart until our wedding in December, we've been living together since. I've tried to print our call history/text message history but I was told by Roger's customer service they can only go as far back as 3 months , which is no help to me since I want to showcase the call history from 2011. I'm also having the same problem with skype, I've downloaded the Skypehistroy viewer and again it won't show me my chat history for 2011!


For my situation is it necessary to show proof for communications from 2011, considering we are currently residing together, and by the time we have the application ready to send we will have been married/living together for a year. I have printed over 100 pictures from when we first met, our engagement, wedding, gathering with family and friends! Should my main focus be on showing my intent to return plan??
 

LeisaP

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when we sent in our common-law app.
we sent tons of evidence, all kinds.
but we never sent in call logs or text.
just some from facebook

because we were living together since we met, so i didnt find it necessary to send in communication.

do you have facebook? or email logs?
those would be fine too
 

CharlieD10

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Yes, as a Canadian sponsoring from abroad, a lot of your focus should be on your resettlement plans. It's important to show the genesis and development of your relationship, but as a married couple you can restrict yourself to sample proofs of staying in contact while apart and your daily lives during living together while focusing on how you will settle in Canada when your spouse is approved for PR.
 

Isometry

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As far as proof of relationship, it's all subjective. Keep in mind that you need to be able to convince a skeptical stranger that you're genuine, not just living together as roommates, etc. Also keep in mind that you'll want to send a few pieces of evidence showing that you're living together.

Your husband may be able to get phone logs from his carrier, if you haven't tried that already. Any IM logs or emails that you may have, or even emails showing plane tickets for visits before you married, are good to send. It's good to to send things dating back to the start of the relationship if you can, and get creative with it--receipts for gifts, cards you sent each other, facebook timelines, etc can all be used,

You will also have to show your intent to return plan, but that's a completely separate task. Don't focus on one at the expense of the other.
 

canada14

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Thank you for replying! Yes, I was able to print off our Facebook messages and the few emails we sent each other last year! I have written a letter as additional details for our relationship so I could add why I don'thave a print out of our call history from 2011! I will be able to send as proof airline tickets, gift reciepts, birthday/valentine day cards and other evidence to show we are living together as a married couple!
 

CharlieD10

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Yes, you can explain why you can't access the history from 2011. We lost all of our early contact information, months and months worth of chat logs, when my PC crashed. I explained about this in our relationship timeline/essay, and used other sources such as our Facebook wall post history. Our explanation was accepted without a query.
 

canada14

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Thanks again for the tips :) I'll make sure I can send as many pieces as I can. We didn't really get to see each other during our engagement for various reasons (school/work schedules) and we didn't really send each other gifts so I have very little to show besides pictures and the airline tickets for when my parents and I travelled for my engagement and later in the year for our wedding! We did receive at least 50 different engagement/ wedding day/ congratulation cards from family and friends- could this be something I could include!
 

Isometry

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canada14 said:
We did receive at least 50 different engagement/ wedding day/ congratulation cards from family and friends- could this be something I could include!
You can, however, include photocopies rather than the actual cards. If you send the original cards, there's no guarantee you'll get them back.
 

steph816

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I just copied and pasted txtd into a word document, only gave them ones that showcased our relationship (not just chit chat stuff) cause they're not going to read through a million text messages....Just to show that you were communicating and maybe in some of your communication you spoke of marriage, kids, life together, etc... That's the stuff to give them. Also, if it's just a phone # of his, without his name appearing, you give them a stat declaratioin from him, stating that is indeed his phone number (for all they know u cld be calling anyone).
We photocopied cards and emails and letters etc, that anyone ever gave us, addressed to both of us, showing they knew of our relationship. There's no need to give originals of them. Identify the people in your photos, a lawyer told it is better to send pics of both of you with other various people, not just of the two of u. If you ever emailed ur friends talking about ur relationship while it was ongoing, b4 u got married, that would help....anything that shows other ppl knew u guys 2 be a genuine couple.
If ur not living in canada now, u have to prove that ur going to be coming back.....so u might want to get something 2gether for that. proof u have a job here, a place to stay, bank account, whatever u can get a hold of. =)
 

SLC979

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Aug 16, 2012
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Hi, I am in the process of filing papers for spousal sponsorship. My husband is Canadian born -permanent resident since last year- I still reside in US. Had a visitor visa which expired, I was told it would be a waste of time to apply for an extension if I cannot prove I have filed papers for permanent residency. My concern is my husband is older and retired, I need to be working, is there any way I can get a work permit asap while waiting for approval on my application? I havent filed yet, waiting on FBI record. ALSO feeling frustrated with the amount of information they want for 'proof of relationship'. Seems to me if you have been married for more than 10 years you should only need to proof continued cohabitation. I mean at this point, does it matter how you met, who you were introduced to...I have been with my spouse since 1987 married in 2002, and believe me quite a few people on my list are deceased! Anyway, my concern is being in Canada-prefereably working before the snow flies. I dont want my husband there alone. Havent seen him since June 5-another concern as far as papers...Is there anything I can do to get a work permit or visa?
 

canada14

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Aug 3, 2012
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Yes, I have quiet a few emails/facebook messages with friends about my relationship, bridal shower and wedding details. I have printed pictures of us with family (also, his brother is married to my cousin- so we also have that connection) . As for my intent to move back to Canada, I own property, have an active bank account , available housing in two different cities depending on which city we are able to find work in....I only moved to be with my husband after our wedding since we didn't want to be apart during the sponsorship process. I have no intention of not returning to Canada- all of our family and friends know that my move abroad was temporary until my husband could join me in Canada.
 

AnaMaria

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As a US citizen, you may want to look at an option for NAFTA (?) to get a work permit? I am not familiar but I think there is some special arrangement between Canada and US.

Otherwise you gather quality information and file it asap. As you are married and have been together for so long, you will not need tons of evidence like many of us do, i.e. chat log, phone logs. Make your application very straightforward, no errors, no room for suspicions for officers. Gathering all the info requested was a nightmare but it is just beginning. Then you will need patience. But you are not alone and frankly speaking, not in the bad situations compared to many of us here. You will be able to see him in Canada or in US during the process and probably more economically than many of us here. I am not saying it is easy. We are all enduring this harsh process to be with loved ones. Good luck.