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Reasons for rejections of citizenship applications

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Dear fellow forum member,

I used found this thread (Reasons for rejections of PR applications https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/reasons-for-rejection.306713/) to be quite helpful and informative.

I wonder is it a good idea to also create a parallel thread of reasons for rejections of citizenship applications?

By sharing questions IRCC imposed during residence questionnaire or any other stage of the application, we may be better to reduce the stress during the tough waiting period.

Thanks and wishing everyone a wonderful weekend.
 

dpenabill

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To be clear, the IRCC web page linked above lists PROHIBITIONS, things which will prohibit the grant of citizenship.

Additionally, obviously, failing to meet any of the necessary qualifications for a grant of citizenship will also result in the application being denied . . . or "rejected" one might say.

The eligibility requirements, ranging from necessary physical presence to language ability, are clearly described in IRCC's instruction guide.

While it should not arise often, it might be worth mentioning that meeting the language requirement (unless exempted) requires BOTH:
-- submitting proof of meeting this requirement WITH the application, as prescribed in the instructions, AND
-- also showing competence in one of the official languages during the interview​

Thus, for example, even though the applicant has and submits an acceptable form of proof of language ability with the application, if the applicant is unable to demonstrate language ability during the interview, that is a reason, "grounds," for denying the application. Basically all that is necessary is for the applicant be capable of responding to the questions asked during the interview, without any interpreter, in English or French .

It is also worth emphasizing that the citizenship applicant must be eligible as of the day before applying and CONTINUE to be eligible right up to taking the oath and being delivered the certificate of citizenship. An arrest for an indictable offense (even if later totally dismissed) the night before taking the oath will prohibit taking the oath and result in the application being denied. Which brings up another very important reason a citizenship application can be denied: misrepresentation, including misrepresentation by omission.

And, to be clear, this latter reason not only is one for which the application can be denied, it is a reason for revoking citizenship . . . forever.

Take the applicant married to an unreasonably cantankerous spouse who pushes things the night before the oath leading to a situation in which the police come and, unfortunately, the police believe the spouse not the applicant, and it is the applicant who is charged with a domestic violence offense. The applicant is fully confident this charge will get dismissed. So, show up for the oath and take the oath without saying anything? BAD BAD BAD idea. Especially if the applicant's spouse really is the unreasonable sort. The failure to disclose an arrest is perhaps (now, these days) the MOST LIKELY REASON why IRCC will pursue proceedings to revoke citizenship. And that unreasonable spouse knows all about it. Consider the poison letter, the fraud tip, written and ready to send.

The misrepresentation reason for denying citizenship warrants further emphasis because misrepresentation is grounds to deny the application EVEN IF what is misrepresented does NOT mean the applicant was actually ineligible. ACTUAL EXAMPLE: applicant advised by consultant that Montreal processing times were way, way long, and the consultant suggested using an address in Ontario for a local office known for fast processing times. Application denied, even though the applicant claimed to nonetheless be living in Canada all that time, just not at the Ontario address used in the application. While there are not a lot of reported instances in which those using a friend's or family member's address, rather than where they were actually living (for a variety of reasons, such as moving around a lot due to working at different locations), have had this cause CIC or IRCC to find misrepresentation and deny the application, it warrants a CAUTION, there are RISKS, any untrue information in the application risks the consequences for misrepresentation.

ALL THAT SAID: This is actually a huge topic with scores of tangents. Most should be obvious. Another reason, a rather obvious reason for denying the application, for example, is failing to show up for a scheduled event. Abandonment can also be deemed if an applicant fails to timely respond to requests.

Thus, it does not make much sense to attempt covering all the possible reasons and tangents in a single topic. And, indeed, this forum more appropriately tends to have individual topics addressing particular issues. There are several, for example, in which questions about meeting the actual physical presence requirement are discussed, including the particular procedures in such cases, noting that applicants claiming to have met this requirement cannot be unilaterally denied citizenship by IRCC but must be referred to a Citizenship Judge (in contrast, a Citizenship Officer can and will unilaterally deny a citizenship application if the officer determines there is an applicable prohibition, as just one example).

Many of the reasons are so obvious and simple, they are not discussed much. For those reasons which tend to be a little complicated, see or start another topic.
 

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Dear fellow forum member,

I used found this thread (Reasons for rejections of PR applications https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/reasons-for-rejection.306713/) to be quite helpful and informative.

I wonder is it a good idea to also create a parallel thread of reasons for rejections of citizenship applications?

By sharing questions IRCC imposed during residence questionnaire or any other stage of the application, we may be better to reduce the stress during the tough waiting period.

Thanks and wishing everyone a wonderful weekend.
Very few citizenship applications get rejected in the end. As long as you have enough physical presence days and no criminal records, you'll get approved. It's just a matter of how long it'll take..
 
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Skippyroo

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Mine was rejected because I did not fill in the employment grid even though I stated on the form I was never employed and I am disabled
 

foodie69

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Mine was rejected because I did not fill in the employment grid even though I stated on the form I was never employed and I am disabled
I find that hard to believe..how did you get a PR in the first place then?
 
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Seym

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Mine was rejected because I did not fill in the employment grid even though I stated on the form I was never employed and I am disabled
You probably mean "returned" not rejected ?
You just need to put unemployed for the whole 5 years period in that grid.
 

Skippyroo

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yes I mean rejected to redo if i choose so I phoned them and the woman said they are super strict and to just add my pension in there. It is rude to accuse me of not being truthful what reason would I have to make this up. I agree perhaps returned to redo is more accurate term but still comment about not believings rude.
 

foodie69

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yes I mean rejected to redo if i choose so I phoned them and the woman said they are super strict and to just add my pension in there. It is rude to accuse me of not being truthful what reason would I have to make this up. I agree perhaps returned to redo is more accurate term but still comment about not believings rude.
There is nothing rude about it..use the right words instead. Returned and reject is not the same. I just commented on what you said..
 
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Skippyroo

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Rejected means
re·ject
verb
past tense: rejected; past participle: rejected
/rəˈjekt/
dismiss as inadequate, inappropriate, or not to one's taste.

In actual fact rejected is the more accurate word rather than returned. It was rejected in its current state which means I have the option to make it right if i choose. Your comment is still rude my final word and i will respond no more.
 

Seym

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In all cases, OP here was interested about reasons why IRCC would give a negative decision regarding a citizenship application.
Not filling a tab, not signing somewhere or not including a needed document are all outside the scope of this thread's subject, and are nothing but a little annoyance to the applicant who gets to wait an additional couple of months before his AOR.

Good luck with your application @Skippyroo !!
 

dpenabill

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The report by @Skippyroo is a useful report. It illustrates that the failure to properly fill in the work history chart will NOT pass the completeness check, and IRCC will NOT accept the application, resulting in the application being returned to the applicant. EVEN IF THE APPLICANT HAS OTHERWISE PROVIDED AN EXPLANATION FOR NOT FILLING IN THE WORK HISTORY CHART.

While experienced participants in this forum are already well familiar with how IRCC returns applications which do not pass the completeness check, this report illustrates and highlights:
(1) the importance of completing every item in the form, and
(2) that separate explanations often will NOT suffice​

We have seen some similar reports before. At least some applicants who checked "yes" in response to item 9.c), acknowledging that they "lived" outside Canada during their eligibility period had their applications returned for not including the CIT 0177 form, even though they included an explanation that they did not submit form CIT 0177 because they were not entitled to any Crown Servant related credit.

The further report from @Skippyroo about the call centre agent's statement about how STRICT IRCC is in regard to submitting a "complete" application is also a USEFUL REMINDER how important it is to provide a proper response for every item in the application form.



Mine was rejected because I did not fill in the employment grid even though I stated on the form I was never employed and I am disabled

. . . yes I mean rejected to redo . . .
@Seym's response appropriately explains why the application was returned, or as you say, rejected.

You probably mean "returned" not rejected ?
You just need to put unemployed for the whole 5 years period in that grid.
As for the other troll posts, best to ignore those.


Some further observations:

Rejected means
re·ject
verb
past tense: rejected; past participle: rejected
/rəˈjekt/
dismiss as inadequate, inappropriate, or not to one's taste.

In actual fact rejected is the more accurate word rather than returned. It was rejected in its current state which means I have the option to make it right if i choose. Your comment is still rude my final word and i will respond no more.
As I noted, @Seym's response explains why the application was returned. While you knew that, and experienced participants here understand this aspect of the process, the distinction is important for those coming to this forum for information, such as prospective applicants looking for some guidance in how to approach the process.

Moreover, while the term "rejected" is correct usage, as @Seym also posted, the better and more precise term is "returned," which is the term also used by IRCC in its online information.

"Rejected" is a more general term and you are right, you used it correctly. However, the term "rejected" is applicable to BOTH situations, that is one can say an application was rejected if it was returned as NOT complete, and one can say an application was rejected if it was denied. There are, however, important differences. Not the least of which is the impact on the fees paid.

In particular, most of the participants here are well aware of the difference between an application RETURNED because it does not meet the requirements to make an application, versus when an application is DENIED, which may be because the applicant does not meet the qualifications or is subject to a prohibition or has committed misrepresentation or has failed to properly respond to requests or has been deemed to have abandoned the application.

Again, this is a useful report. It illustrates that a separate statement explaining why the work history chart was not filled in will NOT SUFFICE to make a complete application. It thus suggests a broader caution to prospective applicants about relying on separate explanations for any deviation or omissions in the application form itself.

To some extent it invites a more probing discussion about when and how to provide supplemental explanations or information, about what such explanations can be used for and what they will accomplish or not accomplish. But that would be a separate subject.

For purposes of this topic, however, the point of the report is one that should be well-taken: TAKE CARE TO COMPLETE ALL ITEMS IN THE APPLICATION FORM. Otherwise, the application will NOT be accepted.