Reasons for Rejection

[kryt0n]

How can it be valid indefinitely when CIC says "Police certificates are typically valid for one year from the date they are issued." ?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

From that link:

Document requirements

For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR.
For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after last time the applicant lived in that country.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

How can it be valid indefinitely when CIC says "Police certificates are typically valid for one year from the date they are issued." ?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

You should probably look here -->

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

This is specific to Express Entry applicants

Police certificates
Purpose

To determine if the applicant or their family members have a criminal record or poses a security risk to Canada
Document requirements

For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR.
For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after last time the applicant lived in that country.
Police certificates are required up front and are mandatory for each country (except Canada) where an individual has lived for a total of six months or more. This instruction is for the purpose of the completeness check under section R10. However, it is always at an officer’s discretion to request a new or additional police certificate.
Some countries require that the applicant complete a consent form to initiate a police certificate. For example, an applicant seeking a police certificate from New Zealand must download and complete the Consent to Disclosure of Information (NZ) form available on the IRCC website. The form is then uploaded (with any other police certificates the applicant may provide) as part of the e-APR. If the application is not rejected as incomplete, the processing office will assess the consent form and electronic file and initiate the police certificate.
Police certificates need to be a scan of the original police certificate(s) in color. Certified true copies and unauthorized copies are unacceptable and will result in the application being rejected as incomplete.

In exceptional circumstances, IRCC may accept

proof of having requested a police certificate for such countries; and
an explanation of best efforts (not a guarantee of acceptance). The applicant should explain the delay in a document and upload the document. The uploaded document must show that the applicant requested a police certificate as soon as possible after receiving their Invitation to Apply.

Individuals who must submit this documentation

The principal applicant
Their spouse or common-law partner
Their dependent children 18 years of age or older, including non-accompanying

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

The indefinite part has been from experience and observation from various posts from applicants on this very forum. If you have never gone back to the country in question, you do NOT have to get a police certificate (if the PCC was issued after the last departure).

 

[TanakaM]

From that link:

Document requirements

For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR.
For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after last time the applicant lived in that country.

Yes, I agree. But this only compliments and does not replaces the first statement.

 

[TanakaM]

You should probably look here -->

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

This is specific to Express Entry applicants

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp

The indefinite part has been from experience and observation from various posts from applicants on this very forum. If you have never gone back to the country in question, you do NOT have to get a police certificate (if the PCC was issued after the last departure).

Right, if this is based on experience then we are in total agreement, as you guys are leaving out the part that says they are typically valid for one year in your quotes.

 

[kryt0n]

Yes, I agree. But this only compliments and does not replaces the first statement.

That's the issuing country as in the UK may deem that police certificate only valid for a year, as in there is an expiration date on it. Cic accept them indefinitely.

 

[g126]

Right, if this is based on experience then we are in total agreement, as you guys are leaving out the part that says they are typically valid for one year in your quotes.

The problem here is the lack of specificity of that statement... it says TYPICALLY, well that's just not very specific... In what conditions would it be valid for more then a year or less than a year?

Also, you only find that statement on the page you indicated, if you look in the main PCC page - http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp it says nothing about being valid for 12 months, and neither does the help box you get on the upload page for the PCC.

I think it boils down to if they needed the PCC to have been issued with the last 12 months they would make that clearer on the main PCC page and on the upload help dialog, just like they've made it quite clear that for the country your residing it needs to be issued within the last six months, etc.

Or maybe kryt0n has a point, that statement is directed towards the issuing country and not the as as condition for IRCC acceptance.

 

[TanakaM]

That's the issuing country as in the UK may deem that police certificate only valid for a year, as in there is an expiration date on it. Cic accept them indefinitely.

Ok, for the sake of everyone on this forum, lets get this clear once and for all.

You and your dependents must have a PCC from all countries you have spent more than 6 months in (cumulatively) since the age of 18 (regardless of what your status in the country was. eg student, visitor, worker).

If it is from your country of residence (where you currently live), it must be less than 6 months old on the day you submit your application.
If it is from another country, it does not matter how old it is as long as it was issued after the day you last left that country.

AND

After you have received an Acknowledgement of Receipt (AOR) you are free to travel back to these countries without the need for a new PCC.

 

[kryt0n]

Ok, for the sake of everyone on this forum, lets get this clear once and for all.

You and your dependents must have a PCC from all countries you have spent more than 6 months in (cumulatively) since the age of 18 (regardless of what you status in the country was. eg student, visitor, worker).

If it is from your home country, it must be less than 6 months old on the day you submit your application.
If it is from another country, it does not matter how old it is as long as it was issued after the day you last left that country.

AND

After you have received an Acknowledgement of Receipt (AOR) you are free to travel back to these countries without the need for a new PCC.

Is this correct?

Correct

 

[DelPiero07]

*Grabs popcorn*

 

[TanakaM]

*Grabs popcorn*

lol, please share your understanding while you enjoy your popcorn.

 

[vensak]

that is correct. That way you will not get rejected because you did not supply recent enough PCC.

Now where that one year comes in.
In general they want recent PCC - less than 6 months old. That shall be at the day of AOR.
The promissed timing for 80% of all applicants is 6 months.
So that gives us up to 1 year after your PCC was issued, it will be reviewed. (you get PCC and 6 months later you get AOR and 6 months later you get PPR).

 

[g126]

Ok, for the sake of everyone on this forum, lets get this clear once and for all.

You and your dependents must have a PCC from all countries you have spent more than 6 months in (cumulatively) since the age of 18 (regardless of what you status in the country was. eg student, visitor, worker).

If it is from your home country (or country you're currently residing in), it must be less than 6 months old on the day you submit your application.
If it is from another country, it does not matter how old it is as long as it was issued after the day you last left that country.

AND

After you have received an Acknowledgement of Receipt (AOR) you are free to travel back to these countries without the need for a new PCC.

Is this correct?

Actually I think this would be better aligned to the new wording on the PCC page:

If it is from your home country, it must be less than 6 months old on the day you submit your application.
If it is from another country, it does not matter how old it is as long as it was issued after the day you last left that country OR it was issued within the last 6 months.

That's how I understand it...

EDIT: Ah also, not necessarily your home country, it's where you're currently residing.

 

[babamia]

My family size has changed post AOR, my earlier fund requirement as filled in e APR is now less than the requirement for the new family size. Can my application be rejected on the basis of insuffcient POF. Most especially as i have not been asked to update my POF.

 

[DelPiero07]

My family size has changed post AOR, my earlier fund requirement as filled in e APR is now less than the requirement for the new family size. Can my application be rejected on the basis of insuffcient POF. Most especially as i have not been asked to update my POF.

Have you notified IRCC about this change?

"A change in an applicant’s family circumstances may affect the applicant’s eligibility, depending on the settlement funds required by the program to which they are applying.

For example, if an FSWC applicant submits an e-APR and later informs CIC that a new baby was born, the officer should re-assess the application to determine that the applicant still meets the minimum settlement funds as required by the IRPR. If the applicant does not have the required settlement funds, the application may be refused for not meeting program requirements. When an applicant fails to declare a child in their e-APR but later informs IRCC that said child exists (and existed when they submitted their e-APR), the application should also be assessed under section A11.2.

Processing officers should apply the principles of procedural fairness (PDF, 896.23 KB) when determining whether applicants meet program requirements for settlement funds."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp

 

[g126]

My family size has changed post AOR, my earlier fund requirement as filled in e APR is now less than the requirement for the new family size. Can my application be rejected on the basis of insuffcient POF. Most especially as i have not been asked to update my POF.

Yes it can! You should update your PoF and send proof along with the other documents you're sending for your new family member(s).