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Ray of hope - FSW - 1

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QuinAby

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This not fair at all, a draw was meant to happen, as per previous trends. Only IRCC knows why they decided to torture us this way. :( This is so heartbreaking...
 
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QuinAby

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Aug 1, 2018
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I wish there will be CEC draw again, otherwise I have to max out ielts. I jumped in the pool right after the last CEC draw in August, and it just never happened again which is heartbreaking
The previous draws have been an all program draw which includes cec, unless your score is very low...
 

vicecarloans

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Jul 16, 2019
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I wish there will be CEC draw again, otherwise I have to max out ielts. I jumped in the pool right after the last CEC draw in August, and it just never happened again which is heartbreaking
Same here. It's not fair for us CEC because our scores in general aren't 470-ish. While we have been working, paying taxes, tuition fees for this country during COVID, the draw keeps happening with all programs selection. Such a disappointment in this government.
 
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sun2088

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Same here. It's not fair for us CEC because our scores in general aren't 470-ish. While we have been working, paying taxes, tuition fees for this country during COVID, the draw keeps happening with all programs selection. Such a disappointment in this government.
I don't understand this though. If you qualify under CEC, you get a ton of points.
 

vicecarloans

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Jul 16, 2019
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The previous draws have been an all program draw which includes cec, unless your score is very low...
Generally speaking, CEC candidates aren't no match for FSW. In fact, our degrees + 2 years of working experience (PGWP only lasts for 3 years for the majority of people) brings us around 460
 

EscoBlades

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Jul 22, 2020
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I don't understand this though. If you qualify under CEC, you get a ton of points.
Not if they are the CEC applicants that have the minimum years of Canadian work experience. If that's all they are banking on, then yeah, their scores could be quite low, especially if they aren't maxed out on CELPIP or IELTS.
 

vicecarloans

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Not if they are the CEC applicants that have the minimum years of Canadian work experience. If that's all they are banking on, then yeah, their scores could be quite low, especially if they aren't maxed out on CELPIP or IELTS.
Also, some with 2 years of working experience and 2-year diploma in college still cannot reach 470 tho.
 

ZAtoCD

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Nov 3, 2019
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Also, some with 2 years of working experience and 2-year diploma in college still cannot reach 470 tho.
I've never liked the whole program debate thing that goes on here, but I feel I need to set some things straight. :)

Not sure what you think the benefit is of being an FSW candidate? We don't get any extra points for being FSW. CEC candidates get extra points for their work experience being inside Canada. So, in a general draw, there is already added benefit in being a CEC candidate. That's why the general ones are the fairest, because everyone has a chance to take part, and get ranked on the same scoring system, and the top scorers get an invitation. It gives everyone the same chance, and anyone who doesn't get it will need to somehow increase their score for the future rounds.

Those of us who are FSW who have those high scores have them because we've worked and waited to get them. I got a high score as an FSW, but I am 27 years old, have max IELTS points, 4 years of work experience, and a Master's degree. Those things are not because I'm FSW. They apply because I worked my ass off for years to get that score. If I was CEC, I would have an even higher score.

A friend of mine is also FSW, but his score is like 440-something. So, no, being FSW doesn't just get you an invitation easily. He's super keen to get in, and I feel as bad for him as I do for all the other candidates below the common cut-off scores. It's not CEC vs FSW. These programs are assessed using the same criteria - the same scoring system. The only major difference is CEC candidates get extra points for Canadian work experience.

If there's any competition here, it's not CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates. That's not program-specific. That's just dependent on where we each are right now in our lives, and what value the Canadian government places on us as individual potential immigrants.
 

vicecarloans

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Jul 16, 2019
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I've never liked the whole program debate thing that goes on here, but I feel I need to set some things straight. :)

Not sure what you think the benefit is of being an FSW candidate? We don't get any extra points for being FSW. CEC candidates get extra points for their work experience being inside Canada. So, in a general draw, there is already added benefit in being a CEC candidate. That's why the general ones are the fairest, because everyone has a chance to take part, and get ranked on the same scoring system, and the top scorers get an invitation. It gives everyone the same chance, and anyone who doesn't get it will need to somehow increase their score for the future rounds.

Those of us who are FSW who have those high scores have them because we've worked and waited to get them. I got a high score as an FSW, but I am 27 years old, have max IELTS points, 4 years of work experience, and a Master's degree. Those things are not because I'm FSW. They apply because I worked my ass off for years to get that score. If I was CEC, I would have an even higher score.

A friend of mine is also FSW, but his score is like 440-something. So, no, being FSW doesn't just get you an invitation easily. He's super keen to get in, and I feel as bad for him as I do for all the other candidates below the common cut-off scores. It's not CEC vs FSW. These programs are assessed using the same criteria - the same scoring system. The only major difference is CEC candidates get extra points for Canadian work experience.

If there's any competition here, it's not CEC vs FSW. It's high scoring candidates vs low scoring candidates. That's not program-specific. That's just dependent on where we each are right now in our lives, and what value the Canadian government places on us as individual potential immigrants.
I see...yet during program specific, scores went down dramatically. What’s your take on that? Also, from my perspective, the rewards for CEC candidates (fresh grads PGWP, early stage in career, etc) don’t enable them to make it to the cut. These people including me have been here for such a long time that I forgot what it’s like back home. Having to go back after such a tremendous amount of time is gonna be something...
But hey, I agree with your points about high scoring vs low scoring candidates and it’s up to the government’s scheme :)
 
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zupermarn

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May 8, 2019
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I don't understand this though. If you qualify under CEC, you get a ton of points.
No bro.

That's not how it works. I qualify under CEC, my age range is the peak age range Canada wants. I even maxed out my english exam and I maxed out my 3 years PGWP. But the score is still very low
 
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