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ns317

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What do you think about job prospects generally though? I keep reading about how hard the economy has been hit. I wonder how easy things are for newcomers now vs before COVID.
I think it depends on the type of job as well. If we are talking about IT jobs etc, I doubt there's going to be any discernible effect. Techies will continue to be in high demand.

If I were to consider my NOC, 0124, I think there will be more difficulty in finding a new job from scratch. Instead of it taking, say, 4-5 months to find a good position, it might take 8-9 months in the current scenario. But ultimately, in the long haul, I don't see a problem at all with the Canada job market.

So new immigrants should probably be prepared for a bit more time without a job, as a worst case scenario.
 

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I think it depends on the type of job as well. If we are talking about IT jobs etc, I doubt there's going to be any discernible effect. Techies will continue to be in high demand.

If I were to consider my NOC, 0124, I think there will be more difficulty in finding a new job from scratch. Instead of it taking, say, 4-5 months to find a good position, it might take 8-9 months in the current scenario. But ultimately, in the long haul, I don't see a problem at all with the Canada job market.

So new immigrants should probably be prepared for a bit more time without a job, as a worst case scenario.
It's advisable for everyone to be prepared to either spend from their savings (means you have to save enough to hit the ground running) or be ready to take menial jobs while waiting to land the job of your choosing - for ar least 1year, after landing.

It's definitely not going to be easy but the resilient that has gotten us this far shouldn't be ditched when we get to Canada.
 

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I think it depends on the type of job as well. If we are talking about IT jobs etc, I doubt there's going to be any discernible effect. Techies will continue to be in high demand.

If I were to consider my NOC, 0124, I think there will be more difficulty in finding a new job from scratch. Instead of it taking, say, 4-5 months to find a good position, it might take 8-9 months in the current scenario. But ultimately, in the long haul, I don't see a problem at all with the Canada job market.

So new immigrants should probably be prepared for a bit more time without a job, as a worst case scenario.
Good points. Haha, you've got a similar NOC to mine. I'm 1123, which is still marketing, but not at managerial level. Might be even harder for me.

Would you choose to go there later and wait for the economy to recover?

It's advisable for everyone to be prepared to either spend from their savings (means you have to save enough to hit the ground running) or be ready to take menial jobs while waiting to land the job of your choosing - for ar least 1year, after landing.

It's definitely not going to be easy but the resilient that has gotten us this far shouldn't be ditched when we get to Canada.
True! The thought of doing that for a year is daunting, but I'll do what I have to. I assume by menial jobs you mean things like retail work and delivery work?
 

joconstantine

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Good points. Haha, you've got a similar NOC to mine. I'm 1123, which is still marketing, but not at managerial level. Might be even harder for me.

Would you choose to go there later and wait for the economy to recover?


True! The thought of doing that for a year is daunting, but I'll do what I have to. I assume by menial jobs you mean things like retail work and delivery work?
I believe it is harder to get a managerial job. :)
 

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I believe it is harder to get a managerial job. :)
I agree. Firms will be reluctant to hire managers without Canadian experience, but the people who do the actual job specific tasks, they can find work relatively easier as the work processes, softwares used etc are similar everywhere these days.
 

joconstantine

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I agree. Firms will be reluctant to hire managers without Canadian experience, but the people who do the actual job specific tasks, they can find work relatively easier as the work processes, softwares used etc are similar everywhere these days.
I have been an IT manager since 2 years ago after my last promotion. However, I have been keeping myself with (small) programming tasks. I don’t want to lose touch with the skills because I know I will start fresh again after landing in Canada.
 

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I have been an IT manager since 2 years ago after my last promotion. However, I have been keeping myself with (small) programming tasks. I don’t want to lose touch with the skills because I know I will start fresh again after landing in Canada.
Did you start out as a programmer? There will be no difference in your job if you work as a programmer/developer anywhere in the world but you should be up to date with the latest tech and really know your stuff.
 

joconstantine

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Did you start out as a programmer? There will be no difference in your job if you work as a programmer/developer anywhere in the world but you should be up to date with the latest tech and really know your stuff.
I am still trying to keep myself updated. And yes, I am a programmer. Hope I am good enough to land a job. Hahaha. I have done all as a programmer, then as a business analyst, then as an IT manager. I still can get it all.
I am turning 30. Not too old to learn new things, either.

Anyway, the bottom line is that I am willing to adjust and and be realistic. We are migrating and we will have to start from a lower stand.
 

ns317

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Good points. Haha, you've got a similar NOC to mine. I'm 1123, which is still marketing, but not at managerial level. Might be even harder for me.

Would you choose to go there later and wait for the economy to recover?
I agree with what others have said as well. 1123 will likely find a job faster than 0124. Less experience will also be helpful, as that implies less baggage to shed and organizations will be keener to hire. In my case, I have 11 yrs of work ex with 8 of that in the same industry. It will take time to find a suitable employer.

I’m certainly not going to delay relocation once the process is complete. I had decided to maybe even take a few months off once I got to Canada, which is a break I’m craving from my work life :) So I’ll be on the next flight as soon as they approve the visa.

It would also be a good chance to volunteer and get some Canadian experience if you relocate quickly. Of course everything should be planned in accordance with finances and other matters as well.
 
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ZAtoCD

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I agree with what others have said as well. 1123 will likely find a job faster than 0124. Less experience will also be helpful, as that implies less baggage to shed and organizations will be keener to hire. In my case, I have 11 yrs of work ex with 8 of that in the same industry. It will take time to find a suitable employer.

I’m certainly not going to delay relocation once the process is complete. I had decided to maybe even take a few months off once I got to Canada, which is a break I’m craving from my work life :) So I’ll be on the next flight as soon as they approve the visa.

It would also be a good chance to volunteer and get some Canadian experience if you relocate quickly. Of course everything should be planned in accordance with finances and other matters as well.
Oh having a bit of a break to explore would be great for you. :)

I hope you're right! Not that I want it to be hard for any of us. I've got about 3.5 years of experience behind me, plus my Master's. I'm hoping that works in my favor. I have no issue with selling myself and representing myself well in person, but I'm concerned about even being able to get interviews in southern Ontario. That's the biggest challenge/concern. Especially in this economic climate, but even before Covid. Maybe I'm blowing it out of proportion, haha! What do you think?
 

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ns317

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Oh having a bit of a break to explore would be great for you. :)

I hope you're right! Not that I want it to be hard for any of us. I've got about 3.5 years of experience behind me, plus my Master's. I'm hoping that works in my favor. I have no issue with selling myself and representing myself well in person, but I'm concerned about even being able to get interviews in southern Ontario. That's the biggest challenge/concern. Especially in this economic climate, but even before Covid. Maybe I'm blowing it out of proportion, haha! What do you think?
3-5 years of experience is really the sweet spot, from what I've heard from my acquaintances there. You probably won't need to take a step down in terms of seniority with that experience. While those with 6+ would probably need to settle for maybe one rung lower in the ladder when they 'restart' their career in Canada. So from that perspective, I think you are in a good zone.

As for location, you really should focus on GTA as much as possible. No matter how much one might want to live away from the madness in Toronto, it's still the most sensible thing to do to try find your first job in that area. It will be much faster than finding a job elsewhere, especially in a non-tech profession. Why don't you try reach out to a few companies couple of months before your expected PPR date? Try Indeed and other portals to get an understanding of the type of jobs you could target, and use LinkedIn to reach out to employers.. Even if it's unlikely that you'd close anything before you reach Canada, it could give you good information and insights.

I think those of us in similar professions in this forum can also be of valuable help once we land there as well.
 
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