hello friends,
It seems that we have missed the actual point of our discussion here.
@ hec006, pls share any official info from quebec immigration authorities that this new changes which we are witnessing will be applicable to applicants including old applications which were submitted before the date of this change? do you have any written proof about your claims apart from just 2 cases of forum members...? - Do you have the official document that proof that or french proficiency, old candidates will be evaluated as per the old rule and new candidates will be evaluated as per the new rule.? rather than producing official proof you have assumed that evaluation of quebec2011, walking marvel is based on immigration officer. I have already told BIQ doesn't declare anything about the French evaluation will be on old or new rule. quebec2011 and walking marvel.. I think in different visa office. So two visa officer from two different BIQ has taken the same decision. It is the strong proof- they are of same visa office ( hong Kong). Do u have the proof that old applicants are evaluated on old rule for French proficiency( after the release of new rule)? If yes, put forward here. It is common thing that candidates will be evaluated based on GPI at his/her application time. But, it is never clearly written that it is true for French proficiency also. The fact is that they are restricting the immigration based on french rule and also eager to accept only francophone applicants in near future. That's why they have already started to apply this feelings to all. Here, all 96000 appliacnts are not in this forum. I that were the case, I would give you the proof of many same cases. BIQ has clearly mentioned that test results are manadatory from December 6, 2011. and only only only this change is retroactive. Leaving that nothing is retroactive.
Also to point out how immigration process works, I would like you to observe the implications of changes in FSW and immigration rules of other countries.
As we have seen FSW have 3 MIs published till date and each MI has specific rules for applicants. Now you cannot evaluatee pre-feb 2008 fsw applicant with MI 3 regulations. They will be evaluated by the regulations prevailing at the time of submittin.
The same thing can be applied to qsw too. And that is the reason of publishing GPI (Guide to Immigration Procedures) every month by quebec authorities.
pls share with us any official annoucement or any official data by quebec immigration website that endorses your assumption of treating old applications newer rules such as 16/25 rule that was first published in sep-2011 GPI edition.
@ Bajan4Quebec,
With regard to the old applicants, You have raised very valid point of comparing the french level declared in the application and french level assessed by IO/VO at the time of interview. This can be a reason why quebec2011 and walkingmarvel may have got the lesser points than actual points - Do you have any official proof if there is any discrepancy between declared french level and submitted french level. and how much point will be cut down? any table. Or it is again your assumtion that it is IO's decision. quebec2011 has received no less points. they have received the actual points even though quenbec2011 has declared B2, but submitted B1. This is vague argument and no clear justification..
And yes, I checked various job posting on job search portals of quebec and they are specifically demanding for very high level of french proficiency, especially for jobs that pays good wages. For entry level jobs, such language skills are not of much importance. Even a high beginner level french proficiency will be sufficient for entry level jobs.