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[lemans207]

Iengen.... I see hope you get waiver.
Accept an advice from seniors here waiver is that you get the CSQ instead of AOR, as I see your timeline you received aor ;D

Absolutely. You're not required to. It's not mandatory and you will receive CSQ regardless if you applied to order. The processing fees for application to order is around 420$. However, keep in mind that overall duration of immigration process might be lengthy ( might be 2-3 years) and order evaluates only degrees and diplomas that were obtained within past five years. Otherwise, candidate must have been practiced minimum one year in the field and proving work experience, and proving that work experience obtained outside of Quebec was related directly to the field might be quite challenging.

 

[Ievgen]

Iengen.... I see hope you get waiver.
Accept an advice from seniors here waiver is that you get the CSQ instead of AOR, as I see your timeline you received aor ;D

Hi lemans207,

I haven't read any stories when someone received CSQ with no AOR first. In any case I'm having 57 points and my occupation is in the priority list. If I have to attend an interview I have absolutely no doubts that I'll pass. It will just delay the overall application process by roughly one year.

 

[lemans207]

Hi lemans207,

I haven't read any stories when someone received CSQ with no AOR first. In any case I'm having 57 points and my occupation is in the priority list. If I have to attend an interview I have absolutely no doubts that I'll pass. It will just delay the overall application process by roughly one year.

yeah there are a lot, usually from francophone countries, I know 2 ppl got csq without Quebec AOR. Yes sure hope you passs it too

 

[Ketevan]

Yes Ievgen, I was also shocked that british diplomas have no value for recruiters. It was the recruiter from a reputed recruiting firm that told me that until I get evaluation of my british education he cannot consider me for bank cashier posts! Regarding evaluation of credentials, yes 9 months is incredible, but this is the bitter reality - the official processing time on the MICC website is 9 months currently.
Yes my french is fluent, but I do not know how long I can stay in my call centre because we have exams every week and they eliminate everybody who scores below 75%. We already lost 10 people out of 16 in my team. Besides, we have to suggest a product at each incoming call and those who do not attain a certain sales quota also jeopardize their position. There is an incredible pressure.
I do not think I will be able to transfer credits because I did not study accounting before. I will have to start from 0 a DEC in accounting. Yes you are right about low labour work for the first period, but I am afraid it is for much longer than 3-6 months. But if you are bilingual, there are always plenty of call centre jobs and customer service posts (at airports etc.). Call centres recruit in March-April amd November-December. So it is good to land around this time to avoid cleaning floors at Walmart.

That's right Ketevan. I completely agree, and in fact there's no guarantees anywhere with jobs, not only in Canada. However, I was very surprised when I read one of your posts in a different thread where you described that your degree from U of Edinburgh wasn't acceptable in Canada and you had to take a call center job. I thought before that educational pattern in UK is more less similar to the one in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Also, wait time of 9 months for evaluation of foreign credentials is incredible! I'm sure you had a really superior french to land a call centre job because from what I read before people who's credentials weren't recognized take low level labour work for the first 3-6 months.
Are you going to pursue a degree in accounting online to get a new Canadian diploma, or you've transferred some credits from your UK education?

Thanks

 

[lemans207]

yes now value for british degrees, guess why?
Engineers in France/French system 5 years BE
Engineers in England/USA/English system 3 years BS +2 years Masters = French BE

Yes Ievgen, I was also shocked that british diplomas have no value for recruiters. It was the recruiter from a reputed recruiting firm that told me that until I get evaluation of my british education he cannot consider me for bank cashier posts! Regarding evaluation of credentials, yes 9 months is incredible, but this is the bitter reality - the official processing time on the MICC website is 9 months currently.
Yes my french is fluent, but I do not know how long I can stay in my call centre because we have exams every week and they eliminate everybody who scores below 75%. We already lost 10 people out of 16 in my team. Besides, we have to suggest a product at each incoming call and those who do not attain a certain sales quota also jeopardize their position. There is an incredible pressure.
I do not think I will be able to transfer credits because I did not study accounting before. I will have to start from 0 a DEC in accounting. Yes you are right about low labour work for the first period, but I am afraid it is for much longer than 3-6 months. But if you are bilingual, there are always plenty of call centre jobs and customer service posts (at airports etc.). Call centres recruit in March-April amd November-December. So it is good to land around this time to avoid cleaning floors at Walmart.

 

[Ketevan]

Agree. It all starts at school level. I taught economics at a top british university for three years. Guess what? Some people did not even know that when a variable is moved from one side of the equation to the other, the sign in front of variable is changed. Moreover, neither did they know that an increase in the denominator leads the ratio to fall. I am not even talking about differentiation - each time I mentioned the word derivative, most people were looking at me as if I was alien.
By the way, masters in UK is only 1 year while canadian masters is 2 years, british phd is 3 years while canadian takes usually 5-7 years.

yes now value for british degrees, guess why?
Engineers in France/French system 5 years BE
Engineers in England/USA/English system 3 years BS +2 years Masters = French BE

 

[lemans207]

Agree. It all starts at school level. I taught economics at a top british university for three years. Guess what? Some people did not even know that when a variable is moved from one side of the equation to the other, the sign in front of variable is changed. Moreover, neither did they know that an increase in the denominator leads the ratio to fall. I am not even talking about differentiation - each time I mentioned the word derivative, most people were looking at me as if I was alien.
By the way, masters in UK is only 1 year while canadian masters is 2 years, british phd is 3 years while canadian takes usually 5-7 years.

I am talking in general,
but in my opinion usa education system more successful, I am graduate French system, we study a lot of things that's not required ;D but when we graduate we will have lot of info and knowledge but it doesn't help in our career

 

[Ketevan]

There are french graduates in my call centre too and they struggle to get jobs in their field. Their diplomas are also unacceptable without evaluation by ministry. The correlation between education and career success gets weaker day by day. The university system became too academic and isolated from real industry needs.

I am talking in general,
but in my opinion usa education system more successful, I am graduate French system, we study a lot of things that's not required ;D but when we graduate we will have lot of info and knowledge but it doesn't help in our career

 

[rizwan_raw]

@ lemans

haha here's the list again good work buddy. maybe we should sign petition for those files are more than 2 years old and almost 2 years, why do they keep such files so long? actually when these people applied, the processing times for a non priority applicant is just one year the most, but when priority applicants door in FSW were closed they turn their way to QSW as the second option only but making non priority applicants suffer. I strongly believe that new applicants including those who submitted at the beginning of 2013, they are only using QSW as a backdoor to come to Canada because they were not able to come thru FSW. who can disagree with me? that's the truth. but the other truth is these new applicants who are processed very fast is making the long wait for non priority applicants now.

take a look at the case of ASW it was just over a year. but now more than 2 years.

100% correct.

 

[Ievgen]

Agree. It all starts at school level. I taught economics at a top british university for three years. Guess what? Some people did not even know that when a variable is moved from one side of the equation to the other, the sign in front of variable is changed. Moreover, neither did they know that an increase in the denominator leads the ratio to fall. I am not even talking about differentiation - each time I mentioned the word derivative, most people were looking at me as if I was alien.
By the way, masters in UK is only 1 year while canadian masters is 2 years, british phd is 3 years while canadian takes usually 5-7 years.

I'm sure there're students like that in every country . However, that's a shame when they manage to land good jobs while skillfull graduates are unemployed because of overqualification. I think that it takes so many years in Canada and US to earn PhD because applicants go for doctorate directly after completion of their BS. In contrast, in UK an applicant must have a MS already before enrollment. I started my PhD in the US, but then decided to quit after 2.5 years and obtained a MS instead.

Never thought that call center jobs might be that competitive. I wish you stay well in your present occupation while your degree evaluation is in process. I wouldn't be able to get such a job as I just started learning french. So far I applied to order that regulates my profession for obtaining permit. Even though I don't mind taking "survival jobs" for the first time I'll to do what's possible to avoid becoming a cleaner in Walmart ;D

 

[lemans207]

guys instead of everyone giving opinion, there is chance to make equivalence for you degree in Quebec
I done so

It took 18 months

adv. you can grant 10 pts for education

 

[jimmy80]

guys instead of everyone giving opinion, there is chance to make equivalence for you degree in Quebec
I done so

It took 18 months

adv. you can grant 10 pts for education

dear Lemans207,

As i mentioned before, i got my BS from the USJ in lebanon in 2003 and i also got my maitrise from Université Lumière Lyon 2 from France in 2007,can you please help me to know the procedure of doing the equivalence of my degree as well my wife's degrees.

thank you and appreciate your help.

 

[lemans207]

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/fr/formulaires/formulaire-titre/evaluation-etude/

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/fr/education/evaluation-comparative/

When I did it was 70$ I think now became 105$

 

[krishhmurali]

Hi team .

seeking advise from senior members .. am from university of Madras, India. My degree certificates were issued in dual language like the content is same but printed twice both in english and tamil. do i need to still go for translation of my certificate ? my daughter birth certificate is full in tamil and i have done an official translation. however i seek your advise on this case .. appreciate your help.

 

[vicky4frendz]

Hi Ievgen

Thanks for replying, however I assume that there's a negative marking in TEFAQ but same is not in TCF..

Also I think TCF is also having 2 modules; listening and speaking only... So I'm getting confused now between both the exams.. :-X

Pls check out below link... http://www.ciep.fr/en/tcf_quebec/index.php

I suggest you to take TEFAQ. It's the easiest one. There're only speaking and listening parts. In addition, you'll receive your results just in a month unlike DELF.