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Proof of Relatives : How to document that?

safa

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hello qoraw,

i read ur previous posts and acc to them u r very supportive .i have a prob,pls guide me

can i change the relatives name at the time of inprocess and vo asked for add docs of my relative but my relative is not in canada noe.he has been moved to us for his job,but i have another real uncle and he can provide me all documents.for proof of relatioship can i give marriage certificates of my father anf my uncle,and ID cards ,b-form of my family and my uncles family.
kindly guide me ,what to do

thanku
 

qorax

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safa said:
hello qoraw,

i read ur previous posts and acc to them u r very supportive .i have a prob,pls guide me

can i change the relatives name at the time of inprocess and vo asked for add docs of my relative but my relative is not in canada noe.he has been moved to us for his job,but i have another real uncle and he can provide me all documents.for proof of relatioship can i give marriage certificates of my father anf my uncle,and ID cards ,b-form of my family and my uncles family.
kindly guide me ,what to do

thanku
Yes, u may update your VO with other 'qualifying Canadian' relatives' docs anytime.
Qorax
 

safa

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AOR Received.
31 Jan,2011
IELTS Request
along with app
File Transfer...
Feb 2011
Med's Request
5th April,2012(letter dated 19 March,2012)
Med's Done....
18th April,2012 (dd reached on 24th APril and medical reached LVO on 1st may)
Interview........
Medical results received added on 31st may
Passport Req..
PPR-1 received on 11th July,(docs sent on 12th July) status....DECISION MADE on 14th July.......PPR-2........20th Aug.
VISA ISSUED...
On 20th Aug,2012(PP reached Isl on 27th August,returned on 1st Sep,2012.)
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12th oct,2012,Alhamdullilah
thanku qorax so much.you r really very help full ,now i am tension free but little bit affraid of V officer because he asked for add docs of previous relative, and i will send the whole docs with full proofs of my new relative.would that relative's docs be accepted by v officer or not at the time of inprocess.
pls clear my dought once again.
it would be really very appriciated.
thanku, :)
regards,
safa
 

safa

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IELTS Request
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File Transfer...
Feb 2011
Med's Request
5th April,2012(letter dated 19 March,2012)
Med's Done....
18th April,2012 (dd reached on 24th APril and medical reached LVO on 1st may)
Interview........
Medical results received added on 31st may
Passport Req..
PPR-1 received on 11th July,(docs sent on 12th July) status....DECISION MADE on 14th July.......PPR-2........20th Aug.
VISA ISSUED...
On 20th Aug,2012(PP reached Isl on 27th August,returned on 1st Sep,2012.)
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12th oct,2012,Alhamdullilah
hi,

can i give marriage certificates of my father and my uncle,because they both have no birthcertificates.bc they were born before partition of india and pakistan and they cannot make their birth certifictes in Pak.
and another thing in ID of my father ,sheikh is added with my g father's name but in uncles ID,there is no sheikh with g father's name.is it ok............................but the rest name is same.
thanku,
safa
 

qorax

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safa said:
thanku qorax so much.you r really very help full ,now i am tension free but little bit affraid of V officer because he asked for add docs of previous relative, and i will send the whole docs with full proofs of my new relative.would that relative's docs be accepted by v officer or not at the time of inprocess.
pls clear my dought once again.
it would be really very appriciated.
thanku, :)
regards,
safa
Shouldn't be an issue. But, do not forget to write a cover [explanation] letter.

safa said:
hi,

can i give marriage certificates of my father and my uncle,because they both have no birthcertificates.bc they were born before partition of india and pakistan and they cannot make their birth certifictes in Pak.
and another thing in ID of my father ,sheikh is added with my g father's name but in uncles ID,there is no sheikh with g father's name.is it ok............................but the rest name is same.
thanku,
safa
Could be a prob if u do not explain that [BC issue] thru a cover letter.

Qorax
 

gujjar

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hello qorax,
I am an old member but presence in forum is rare. I got 2nd AOR in oct 2010. my status is still RVO. In their 2nd AOR it was written "if u dont get any reply from our side within 8 months, you may contact us". Now its more then 8 months. what should I do? I know it will take another year but I feel I should write them. If I write them, plz someone let me know the e.mail address of CHC London.
Thanks and Allah Hafiz,
ch. masood
 

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gujjar said:
hello qorax,
I am an old member but presence in forum is rare. I got 2nd AOR in oct 2010. my status is still RVO. In their 2nd AOR it was written "if u dont get any reply from our side within 8 months, you may contact us". Now its more then 8 months. what should I do? I know it will take another year but I feel I should write them. If I write them, plz someone let me know the e.mail address of CHC London.
Thanks and Allah Hafiz,
ch. masood
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/offices/missions/london.asp
 

ruze

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next year!
qorax said:
Original Post.

That's good enough.
ei qorax, u r a very patient (cool) man... +infinite points for u!!!
 

safa

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AOR Received.
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IELTS Request
along with app
File Transfer...
Feb 2011
Med's Request
5th April,2012(letter dated 19 March,2012)
Med's Done....
18th April,2012 (dd reached on 24th APril and medical reached LVO on 1st may)
Interview........
Medical results received added on 31st may
Passport Req..
PPR-1 received on 11th July,(docs sent on 12th July) status....DECISION MADE on 14th July.......PPR-2........20th Aug.
VISA ISSUED...
On 20th Aug,2012(PP reached Isl on 27th August,returned on 1st Sep,2012.)
LANDED..........
12th oct,2012,Alhamdullilah
qorax said:
Shouldn't be an issue. But, do not forget to write a cover [explanation] letter.

Could be a prob if u do not explain that [BC issue] thru a cover letter.

Qorax

hi qorax,
thanks for ur reply.i want to discuss about the BC.i came to know about the BC of those pakistanies who were born before partition.the Government of Pak issue certificates about them in which Goverenment verify about the boidata of those people,means that they were born in india but now living in Pakistan and their biodata is this(sealed by Goverenment by Pak).is this approved by VO and authentic.

thanks,safa
 

safa

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Pre-Assessed..
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Doc's Request.
29 Sep,2010
AOR Received.
31 Jan,2011
IELTS Request
along with app
File Transfer...
Feb 2011
Med's Request
5th April,2012(letter dated 19 March,2012)
Med's Done....
18th April,2012 (dd reached on 24th APril and medical reached LVO on 1st may)
Interview........
Medical results received added on 31st may
Passport Req..
PPR-1 received on 11th July,(docs sent on 12th July) status....DECISION MADE on 14th July.......PPR-2........20th Aug.
VISA ISSUED...
On 20th Aug,2012(PP reached Isl on 27th August,returned on 1st Sep,2012.)
LANDED..........
12th oct,2012,Alhamdullilah
qorax said:
Shouldn't be an issue. But, do not forget to write a cover [explanation] letter.

Could be a prob if u do not explain that [BC issue] thru a cover letter.

Qorax
and second pls guide me ,can i use domicile or any other certificates like diploma in electric etc of my uncle instead of matric certificate..because he couldn't find his matric certificate.i am sending ID card,marriage certificate ,BC(as i told u before),some certificates of diplomas,B form of his family as a proof of relationship of my uncle and my father.recent notice of assessment as proof of residencyand his canadian passport as his proof of status.are these documents enough.
thanks,safa
 
M

Mr Mak

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qorax said:
Ps: U can show the High School Certificate in lieu of Birth Certificate [usually the 10th Grade diploma].
qorax

Will Primary School Leaving Certificate do? eg - my father & uncle studied till 4th grade in one school & following grade in other school. So i have with me the SLC of 1st school.

Mak
 

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Dear Qorax,

VO has requested me to send birth certificates of my Wife's mother and her Brother( relative is spouse's materal uncle). They were born before 1965 and they dont have birth certificates. Can you please let me know what should be the GENUINE REASON should i write to VO so that i should not look Vague.

Secondly i have found the educational documents of my wife's mother. but she used a different name before marriage(although father name is same) than the Name i mentioned in my initial application. Would you advice me to attach those documents?

the letter which i recieve from VO is below for your information.
Dear Applicant,

Your application for permanent residence has been reviewed and the documents marked below are required.

An immigration officer will assess your application 60 days from the date of this email. The officer will make the decision to approve it, refuse it or call you for interview based on the documents and information contained in your application at the time of assessment. It is in your interest to submit the requested documents within 60 days. If you have not provided adequate information at the time of the officer's assessment, your application may be refused. You will be notified in writing of the officer's decision. Please do not send scanned copies of the documents via email.

If your documents are not written in either English or French, please enclose a certified translation with a photocopy of the original document. All documents submitted in support of your application are subject to verification with the issuing authority. Please allow four months for us to review incoming correspondence; please do not contact us unless there are significant issues which need to be brought to our attention. Please quote your file number on your submission and again on the top left hand corner of the envelope. Your file number is included in the subject field of this email.

Proof of relationship to your relative living in Canada and evidence that your relative is living in Canada:

Provide official, objective, legible documentation to prove that you are related to your relative. Documents should include birth certificates and marriage certificates. The certificates must state the parents' full names. You must provide certificates for each person that links you to your relative. All documentation must predate your application. Affidavits prepared for the purpose of your application will not be considered conclusive evidence of your relationship.
Provide proof that your relative is living in Canada now. This should include: payslips issued to your relative by their employer in Canada, Canadian income tax documents (recent Notice of Assessment), credit card and bank account statements in your relative's name showing transactions that occurred in Canada. We will not accept utility bills, telephone bills and property ownership documents as conclusive evidence that your relative is living in Canada.

You must forward all requested documents together to the address below within 60 days of the date of this email. You will not receive any additional requests or reminders.

Yours sincerely,

CKL
Immigration Section/Service d'immigration
High Commission of Canada/Haut-commisariat du Canada
1 Grosvenor Square
London W1K 4AB/Londres W1K 4AB
United Kingdom/Royaume-Uni
Government of Canada/Gouvernement du Canada
 

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linksalman said:
Dear Qorax,

VO has requested me to send birth certificates of my Wife's mother and her Brother( relative is spouse's materal uncle). They were born before 1965 and they dont have birth certificates. Can you please let me know what should be the GENUINE REASON should i write to VO so that i should not look Vague.

Secondly i have found the educational documents of my wife's mother. but she used a different name before marriage(although father name is same) than the Name i mentioned in my initial application. Would you advice me to attach those documents?
In that case u may submit any other doc [of both] which depicts common parentage, eg. Marriage Certs, School Certs etc. And write a cover letter explaining the unavailability of B/Cs.

I hope the maiden name was same, sans the surname. If so - not an issue. If not - u'd require documentary evidence to connect the person having 2 different names [or name change], eg. Newspaper Notice, court docs, Affidavit etc.

Qorax
 
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Mr Mak

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linksalman said:
Dear Qorax,

VO has requested me to send birth certificates of my Wife's mother and her Brother( relative is spouse's materal uncle). They were born before 1965 and they dont have birth certificates. Can you please let me know what should be the GENUINE REASON should i write to VO so that i should not look Vague.

Secondly i have found the educational documents of my wife's mother. but she used a different name before marriage(although father name is same) than the Name i mentioned in my initial application. Would you advice me to attach those documents?

the letter which i recieve from VO is below for your information.
Dear Applicant,

Your application for permanent residence has been reviewed and the documents marked below are required.

An immigration officer will assess your application 60 days from the date of this email. The officer will make the decision to approve it, refuse it or call you for interview based on the documents and information contained in your application at the time of assessment. It is in your interest to submit the requested documents within 60 days. If you have not provided adequate information at the time of the officer's assessment, your application may be refused. You will be notified in writing of the officer's decision. Please do not send scanned copies of the documents via email.

If your documents are not written in either English or French, please enclose a certified translation with a photocopy of the original document. All documents submitted in support of your application are subject to verification with the issuing authority. Please allow four months for us to review incoming correspondence; please do not contact us unless there are significant issues which need to be brought to our attention. Please quote your file number on your submission and again on the top left hand corner of the envelope. Your file number is included in the subject field of this email.

Proof of relationship to your relative living in Canada and evidence that your relative is living in Canada:

Provide official, objective, legible documentation to prove that you are related to your relative. Documents should include birth certificates and marriage certificates. The certificates must state the parents' full names. You must provide certificates for each person that links you to your relative. All documentation must predate your application. Affidavits prepared for the purpose of your application will not be considered conclusive evidence of your relationship.
Provide proof that your relative is living in Canada now. This should include: payslips issued to your relative by their employer in Canada, Canadian income tax documents (recent Notice of Assessment), credit card and bank account statements in your relative's name showing transactions that occurred in Canada. We will not accept utility bills, telephone bills and property ownership documents as conclusive evidence that your relative is living in Canada.

You must forward all requested documents together to the address below within 60 days of the date of this email. You will not receive any additional requests or reminders.

Yours sincerely,

CKL
Immigration Section/Service d'immigration
High Commission of Canada/Haut-commisariat du Canada
1 Grosvenor Square
London W1K 4AB/Londres W1K 4AB
United Kingdom/Royaume-Uni
Government of Canada/Gouvernement du Canada
linksalman

Did u submit any document during initial app filing to claim 5 Adaptability point? And, without this 5 adaptabilty pt, does ur score turns out to be less than 67?

You see, i also didn't submit the "Proof of Relationship" doc (i.e b\cert of my uncle & father) due to its unavailability. I just send them "Proof of Status" (i.e Passport copy of my uncle) & "Proof of Residency" (i.e Bank statement copy). Later i came to know from the forum & new checklist(precisely mentioned) that such doc is required, else file will be rejected.

I am just curious to know whether u submitted any doc to claim 5 Adaptability point?
 

pakmate

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Hi Qorax

My maternal aunt has canadian citizenship and passport.

but form 10 years she is living in America with my uncle he is American national my aunt got Green Card she use to cum on and off canada to meet and stay at her parents home.

I am eligible to claim 5 points for that