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mmh93 said:
Hi Janathan,

Are you sure that Tax papers is MUST? If yes, plz give me the reference.

Because my relative was unwilling to give tax papers, rather he gave the payslips. I hope pay slips should do.
may be he did not pay the tax, just my guess, i could be wrong....
 

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cocknbull said:
may be he did not pay the tax, just my guess, i could be wrong....
But in the payslips there is information on how much was deducted from earnings as taxes.
 

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mmh93 said:
But in the payslips there is information on how much was deducted from earnings as taxes.
Just because taxes were deducted from his earnings doesn't mean he paid all of the income taxes he owes. He should be filing a tax return each year. The tax return is what determines how much income tax he really owes.
 

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scylla said:
Just because taxes were deducted from his earnings doesn't mean he paid all of the income taxes he owes. He should be filing a tax return each year. The tax return is what determines how much income tax he really owes.
That's correct. But the purpose of such documents is to evidence that the relative is currently RESIDING in Canada and that he/she is economically active. Payslips alone should meet this requirement.
 

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tax returns have the Canada residence address of the tax payer . They are sent as a hard copy thorugh post as well.
acts as a evidence that the person is residing at the said address in Canada.
hence, advisable to send tax paper as proof for adaptabilty
 

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scylla said:
Just because taxes were deducted from his earnings doesn't mean he paid all of the income taxes he owes. He should be filing a tax return each year. The tax return is what determines how much income tax he really owes.
Yup . Sycilla. Payslip alone does not demonstrate that you filed the TAX return and paid the TAX to Revenue Canada. its a must when VO's ask for it. These days most VO's ask for it. my colleagues have been asked to provide the TAX papers aof their relatives. if PAY SLIP alone was enough, they'd be asked for them.
 

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mmh93 said:
That's correct. But the purpose of such documents is to evidence that the relative is currently RESIDING in Canada and that he/she is economically active. Payslips alone should meet this requirement.
thats means they also want to see how the person is progressing in canada and if he is law abiding and following rules..just my opinion..thx
 

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cocknbull,

this makes me amazed that VO's have access to all vital information about any Canadian, Why would they ask for TAX papers? Visa officers have exclusive access to all secured information about anyone in Canada.
All the way it has turned into a harassed machine now.
 

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Paro said:
Hi Qorax,

My consultant is saying that I should provide him the prove that my relative is currently resides in Canada and he says that I should provide:

Updated Notice of assessment,
Updated pay slips issued to my relative by their employer in Canada.
Updated Credit card and bank account statements in my relative name showing transactions that occurred in Canada.

My relative is reluctant to send his bank statement and credit card statement, he thinks that it can be misuse.
My consultant wants to send these documents early as visa office is not demanding now but they are sending refusal letters on this base.
Please tell me that if I will send them, his employer letter and notice of assessment and his job web link (as he is in government job), is this sufficient.
Or credit card and bank statement is necessary? Please tell me as soon as possible.

Dr. Paro
Ur consultant is advising u correctly.

It's highly desirable that u submit those... anything & everything that proves the "triple requirements" for claiming relationship points is invariably very important, 'coz IO's r noted to turn those claims down. The triple requirements r:
1. Proving s/he is 'actually' ur relative;
2. S/he is financially sound in Canada; AND
3. S/he is 'currently' residing in Canada.


Out of the 3, the most crucifying is the last 2. Many cases r returned rejected for want of sanguine docs for theses 2. Which is why ur consultant is doubly ensuring that u file ur papers quantitavely, qualitatively & effectively.

As most of the responders [before this reply] have ightfully opined - it's wise that the latest IT Assessment is filed. That kills most of the lacunae in our 'other' docs. However, not a must if u could otherwise prove the last 2 requirements. It's understood that many relatives would winch@the thought of divulging the IT, Bank Stat & Cr.Card statements... but if u could lay ur hands on those three - ur case gets to become 'stronger'. Thus, persevere.

Qorax
 

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Proof of Relatives in Canada

We r aware that we can get Five [5] additional points on a/c of "adaptability" if having "relatives" in Canada. But, many a times, while having a 'bonafide' relative residing here, we yet shortcut the paperwork [for whatever reasons] - and get into trouble... either those 5 points r not awarded, or we go into delays due to repeated queries from the VO. Here's what we should understand & do:

Who r the Acceptable Relatives?
Proof of relationship showing u, or your accompanying spouse/common-law partner has a close relative who lives in Canada and is a Canadian Citizen or PR. This close relative can be:
• parent, grandparent,
• child, grandchild,
• brother, sister,
• aunt, uncle, or
• niece, nephew.

Proof of "Relationship"
Having one of the above, we now must submit adequate docs to "show" the 'proof of relative' if we want to seriously get those points, which might sometimes 'make' or 'break' our case. This "Proof" is required in Three (3) Steps. Here's how u go about it:

1. BASIC EVIDENCE OF RELATIONSHIP:
Proof of relationship to your close relative in Canada can be evident by docs, such as (A)birth, (B)marriage or (C)adoption certificates. For eg, to prove that your relative in Canada is your paternal aunt, it would be necessary to submit copies of birth certificates for her and for your father showing they have at least one common parent.

2. WHAT DOCUMENTS NEEDED AS PROOF?
• If s/he is a PR: provide a copy of Record of Landing (IMM 1000) or CPR [COPR] or PR Card.
• If s/he is a Citizen: provide Citizenship proof, such as a copy of Canadian passport or Citizenship card.

3. HOW TO PROVE RELATIVE IS 'CURRENTLY INSIDE' CANADA?
Provide evidence to show that your relative is currently residing inside Canada. This may include copies of:
• Lease agreements [Rental Contracts],
• A current Notice of Assessment from Revenue Canada,
• An Employer's Letter confirming employment,
• Monthly Utility Bills [Telephone, Mobile, Cable, Gas etc.].

Note:
- The evidence should show the relative's "name" and "full address" in Canada.
- Source:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/immigrate/skilled/factor-adaptability.asp

I hope that helped.

Qorax
Ps: U can show the High School Certificate in lieu of Birth Certificate [usually the 10th Grade diploma].
Proof of relationship to your relative living in Canada and evidence that your relative is living in Canada:

Provide official, objective, legible documentation to prove that you are related to your relative. Documents should include birth certificates and marriage certificates. The certificates must state the parents' full names. You must provide certificates for each person that links you to your relative. All documentation must predate your application. Affidavits prepared for the purpose of your application will not be considered conclusive evidence of your relationship.

Provide proof that your relative is living in Canada now. This should include: payslips issued to your relative by their employer in Canada, Canadian income tax documents (recent Notice of Assessment), credit card and bank account statements in your relative's name showing transactions that occurred in Canada. We will not accept utility bills, telephone bills and property ownership documents as conclusive evidence that your relative is living in Canada.

You must forward all requested documents together to the address below within 60 days of the date of this email. You will not receive any additional requests or reminders.

Yours sincerely,

CKL
Immigration Section/Service d'immigration
High Commission of Canada/Haut-commisariat du Canada
1 Grosvenor Square
London W1K 4AB/Londres W1K 4AB
United Kingdom/Royaume-Uni
Government of Canada/Gouvernement du Canada
 
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jnathan said:
cocknbull,

this makes me amazed that VO's have access to all vital information about any Canadian, Why would they ask for TAX papers? Visa officers have exclusive access to all secured information about anyone in Canada.
All the way it has turned into a harassed machine now.
agreed with you dear...
 

pakmate

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hello

i will be apply in july 2012 inshallah..i am claiming point of relative.i have my mamani(wife of my mother"s brother) means my momani as my relative..but she do up and down from canada to america as my mamo is americian national..i have make from nadra my birth certificate,my mother and my mamo marriage certificate.my mamo birth certifcte and FRC ...and i also will attach copies of my momani passport,citzenship card..and her bank statment which she open 2 months ago..and hav about 200 dollars in it..shall after this i can get 5 points?

help me plz

thank you in advance
 

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pakmate,

as I have replied to your pm. CIC will not give you any point for your relative who does not earn and does not live in Canada anymore.
 

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jnathan said:
pakmate,

as I have replied to your pm. CIC will not give you any point for your relative who does not earn and does not live in Canada anymore.
Earning is not essential becuse if one in not earning h/she is getting social welfare and on that tax is also deducted and notice of assesment /incometax return is mandatory.
 

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sunasir,

Someone in Social welfare means he/she is destroying Canada's economy at a very very small pace.