PR - same sex couple

[Direstrife]

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In your case I suggest get a civil-union in France and apply under the common-law category. You should be able to demonstrate however that you have lived together CONTINUOUSLY for at least one full year with no big breaks in between.

 

[mirkopal]

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Direstrair...
thanks a lot for your message...
well I think that I am going to apply as a conjugal partner...your explaination have been very useful. I know that i can apply as a common law partner, showing that i lived continuosly with my partner for more than 1 year...but
the problem is that if Immigration will do research on me they are going to see that I did not live for 1 year in france continuosly or 1 year in canada..because my partner and me we split times to see each other...
so thanks to your answer i understood taht conjugal partner is the same than common law but with not a common residency for 1 year...

when my previous partner sponsored me 4 years ago, well he wanted me to sponsor as conjugal partner ...sending less evidences but I did a clear and precise application saying why we applied as conjugal partner, why we could not get married and everything...we did send little proofs but i received the residency in 4 months

so right now i would like to ask you some questions:
we have all material, proofs, letter from people who tesfify, bank account signatures, bills and what else it could be that testify our union...as a phd student i stopped a semester to be closer to him in Paris....and he paid most the times the tickets for me to fly to see him (economic interdependence?) plus other proofs like that...
we also have thought about civil union...in fact we booked a date for that, and but, i know it s odd, in paris everything is booked before february...i don t know if i can send my application right now and maybe sending the other proofs later, but i think that if i am convincing enough i don t need that...

just one information concerning teh medical visit: if he does it in Rome (the centre authorized by Canadian embassy) we are obliged to put in the appendix C application the ROME visa office or we can still put the Paris one?

2. concerning the IO ...the officer that we should try to convince is the one of Mississauga or the one from the VISA office abroad?
because I have another things here:
we have more than 148 letters and 589 emails that we sent each others that we would like to send in our application (well we are going to decide some of them)....but mostly of them are in italian (we are italians)...my question is are we obliged to tranlsate (english or french) them if i put rome visa office?I mean, i think that people in rome office could understand italian...

when i send my first application 4 years ago i remember that we sent 5 or 6 letters....and I don t remember if there were translated (my previous partner is canadian italian and we mostly spoke italian together). I also remember that when I had the visa from the immigration centrer in rome, they gave me back all letters, photos and other stuffs that i sent them previously....

so direstair after having read that, what u could suggest? i also have sent u a message privately...
thanks a lot
mirkopal

 

[ariell]

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the problem is that if Immigration will do research on me they are going to see that I did not live for 1 year in france continuosly or 1 year in canada..because my partner and me we split times to see each other...

Just to clarify: it doesn't have to be one full year in Canada OR one full year in France. It has to be one year COMBINED. It doesn't matter how that is divided up.

 

[mirkopal]

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ok thanks...

 

[Direstrife]

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Ciao!... from your last post I think you have a sound idea on the types of evidences that you can send to demonstrate interdependence.The OP2 manual will have more examples and I suggest you refer to it.

Onto your second question, CPC-Mississauga will assess your eligibility to sponsor while the visa office abroad will assess your relationship. So as far as "convincing" is concerned that would be the visa office.

You don't have to translate the emails and letters. Only official documents will have to be translated e.g. birth certificates, marriage contracts, etc. The letters of support from family and friends would have to be originals, signed and contact details specified.

Since you are both italians I would recommend sending your application in ROME... and yes, they would have Immigration Officers and staff who understands italian which would be beneficial because your letters/emails are written in italian.

I am not sure about Appendix C and what it is??

 

[mirkopal]

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ok....so concerning the appendix c...
it is the document that u have to bring at the medical visit.....
with pictures....
SO MISSISAUGA will accept me and after rome office is going to see our relationship...
which are the factors that can influence mississauga not to be a good sponsor? can u cite few of them? u know, i am a PR and not a citizen, and I am scared that i am part of a lower category in this case...even if I have did all my rights as a canadian citizens...payign taxes, went to school, paying my bills...

so we are going to deal with rome....we are still thinking if conjugal partner or common law...but we are doing the first one...also because it s been 11 months we live together (12th in 20 days) and they were not continuously...instead..we have other proofs...
what the OP2 manual is? can u tell me where I can find it?

other question: i am a phd student and my partner works in air france...i mean i receive scolarship (good amount from italian and canadian government) but we helped each other economically...
am i obliged to put him as a co signer for the economic assistance? or i can also sponsor him without a great revenu...(i remember when my former partner sponsored me well....we were both students...he was undergraduate (starting that) so revenu was really ZERO!)

 

[mirkopal]

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so
DIRESTRAIT OR ARIELL can u give me a final advice on my situation pleasre...it would be really helpful

i decided to live together with partner, quitting one semester at school and he did the same thing for his work...
i started working here in paris as a contract in an international organization.....and to do so i opened a bank account and phone...with bills (proofs) in the same address of my boyfriend...

for the reason that is easier for me to move in Europe, working and staying with him, thanm, for example, for him to stay in canada as a simple visitor.
so
at the same time, i still have an address in canada, my appartment that i share with my best friend, and i paid my taxes last year and this year and i still have a bank account in canada and phone

we lived together for more than one yeear, we got engaged 1 month ago and we are getting civil union next year, july, because we have friends everywhere in the world that will come in that day.
my questions are and noone gave me a clear answer

1. i think i have more requirements for common laaw than conjugal partner...ok but is there a problem if this 12 months living together are not in the canadian territory, meaning that i (the pr) left the country to see him



2. i m going back to canada end of november
is it better to send everything when I am in montreal or when i am still in france ( i receive the last document for our demand, medical visit, at the beginning of november)

3. we have the certificate released by french authorities that we have planned a civil union next year...it could be added as a proof as engagement?

4. we want to come in canada because we want to have a grreat opportunity, i share canada's values, personally i would like to have the opportunity to become citizen and i would like him to be with me. moreover, this will prevent me to loose time required for the residency.

considering what u told me direstrait, i think we have to apply as common law partner, but considering that everything could be good? (even with more proofs)

thanks a lot

 

[mirkopal]

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moreover,


does the sponsor has mandatory to prove that he could financiallyt substain the 'sponsored'?
of the sponsored (my partner) is the one that it s economically stronger and he provides most of the economic benefit?

 

[Direstrife]

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Mirkopal, my advice to you still stands. Apply as common-law partners. The fact that you can think of a way to live together means that an IO would most probably think of it too! Like what we have told you it doesn't matter where you live as long as you meet the 12 months of continuous cohabitation.

There is no income requirement for sponsoring a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner.

 

[ariell]

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I answered you in the other thread.

Yes, I definitely think you should apply as common-law!

 

[mirkopal]

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thanks a lot guys...really and sorry for the disturb
one last question...i have read that that only canadian citizens can apply to sponsor someone ABROAD....in fact as a permanent resident, i m going to come back in canada end of november and send the application from montreal (where i live)...i m gonna move back there also for an exam at the university that i have to take...and my partner is going to stay with me for 2 months...probably...so we are going to keep the living together alive!
so the question is: i have to send the application from canaa and staying in canada the moment I SEND the application right? showing that i lived abroad with my partner...but this means not going out of canada for all the entire process of teh application? i mean for work i have to go for a short trip in the states end of december...can i do it?
thanks

 

[Leon]

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Yes, you can go for short trips, no problem

 

[mirkopal]

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ok but in this case the application will still remain outland righjt?

 

[ariell]

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Right. You are applying outland.

Outland indicates that his PR application is processed at a visa office OUTSIDE of Canada, in this case Rome (I think).