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PR in Canada via (Relocation after PR thru SINP)

Mar 5, 2013
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Hello Everyone,
Just like every­body else does, I really want to thank all the experts on this site that helps and guides new comers to Canada.

My ques­tion is just a lit­tle con­fus­ing (it has been a lot con­fus­ing to me). I am a per­ma­nent res­i­dent liv­ing in Saskatchewan. Here is how I got my PR Status:

=> 2009 (I came to Ontario, Canada as an inter­na­tional student)

=> 2010 (Upon fin­ish­ing my edu­ca­tion and get­ting my work per­mit, I moved to Saskatchewan in order to look for new opportunities).

=> 2011 (I applied for Saskatchewan Immi­gra­tion Nom­i­nee Pro­gram and pre­pared to apply for my PR upon get­ting a suc­cess­ful nomination).

=> 2012 ( I got my med­icals, my pass­port was called for visa stamp­ing and I also crossed the bor­der and re entered in Canada as a landed immi­grant. I have also received my PR Card six months back).

So here is my ques­tion:
As we say that upon being a Per­ma­nent Res­i­dent of Canada, an indi­vid­ual can:
1)Live, work or study any­where in Canada
2)Receive most social ben­e­fits that Cana­dian cit­i­zens receive, such as health cov­er­age
3)Be pro­tected under Cana­dian law and the Cana­dian Char­ter of Rights and Freedoms.

then is it true that mov­ing to a dif­fer­ent province could affect my cit­i­zen­ship as I mis­rep­re­sent myself by not liv­ing in SK if at all I chose to relo­cate?? Roomers have it here that you have to live in SK till you become a cit­i­zen which I do not get. I have lived in SK for almost 3 yrs now and have been a healthy tax payer. And if I think I get a bet­ter oppor­tu­nity else­where I can­not move?? I have con­sulted lawyers but all they care about is their 200$ per hour for meet­ing with­out giv­ing me a cer­tain answer. I mean I think Canada is united and a free coun­try! Do we not have the Char­ter 6 Right? Not that I have a prob­lem liv­ing in Saskatchewan, but isn’t the act of not allow­ing PR hold­ers set­tle any­where else noth­ing but try­ing to cage indi­vid­u­als just because they worked there, payed taxes and obeyed the immi­gra­tion law? Where did the Char­ter 6 Right go then?? We talk about the SINP Contract that I was nominated as I had shown intentions of living in SK! I agree!! But just like the Government went by my true intentions, how can my intentions confirm and promise my healthy and progressive living in SK for years till I become a Citizen?? Will the govt pay me for it if I don not get a job or just another basic paying job?? NO!!!. As some of us might not want to, I do not wish to do basic jobs here if I see a better scope in any other province that gives me a field job and a better livelihood!I have so many oppor­tu­ni­ties from other provinces knock­ing at my door yet I am afraid to take them up as I do not wish to lose my PR Sta­tus here and ruin my hopes of becom­ing a cit­i­zen here. It's like I feel stuck here trying so hard but not finding a good job when I see other opportunities at other provinces!

Is it pos­si­ble for you experts out there to put some light on my sit­u­a­tion and be able to tell me if the above require­ments were true? I would cer­tainly feel blessed if you all can. I apol­o­gize for tak­ing up your time and do want to thank you for everything.
 

babakura

Hero Member
Jun 15, 2011
532
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Category........
Visa Office......
Accra
NOC Code......
2282
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-11-2011
Nomination.....
23-09-2012
AOR Received.
02-01-13
IELTS Request
Submitted
Med's Request
Jan 2013
Med's Done....
Jan 2013
Interview........
ecas Med received: 19th March 2013
Passport Req..
8th Nov 2013
VISA ISSUED...
12 th Nov 2013
LANDED..........
20 Nov 2013
Then you shouldnt have applied for the provincial nominee program ... So after u got ur PR thru the province you now want to move and I guess you read the fine print before you applied for the nomination ......

When you needed the PR you didnt think of cageing yourself in Sask

Go see a lawyer and hear what they have to say .. I guess if you dont wait in Sask then you might lose your status as you have rightly said ... I think you shld wait it out
 
Mar 5, 2013
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@babakura and my fellow readers

I do not believe being in the same province for seven months and in continuation after PR is wanting to " Leave the province after PR". This has to do with a situation in which the job that you do is no where close to what your line of career (field) is. Also the scale of pay is way low then what you are able to reap and contribute to yourself personally and to the country's economy as a whole. We are not talking emotions here but trying to find out the truth from a legal stand point. The contract says you intend to live and settle in SK. But it does not say intention irrespective of anything (Mandatory despite of any situation.)

I quoted the term caging because I have been given a green flag by the CIC call center on the Mobility Rights every time I call them which confuses me even more!..
 

prabz

Star Member
Feb 28, 2013
196
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
3-03-2012
Doc's Request.
5.4.2013
AOR Received.
15-03-2012
Med's Request
15-05-2012
Passport Req..
Waiting
Roarinscorpion said:
@ babakura and my fellow readers

I do not believe being in the same province for seven months and in continuation after PR is wanting to " Leave the province after PR". This has to do with a situation in which the job that you do is no where close to what your line of career (field) is. Also the scale of pay is way low then what you are able to reap and contribute to yourself personally and to the country's economy as a whole. We are not talking emotions here but trying to find out the truth from a legal stand point. The contract says you intend to live and settle in SK. But it does not say intention irrespective of anything (Mandatory despite of any situation.)

I quoted the term caging because I have been given a green flag by the CIC call center on the Mobility Rights every time I call them which confuses me even more!..
Hello, I have also heard that you cant leave province I am in SASK too, but when you got your paper work did CIC mentioned it anywhere in paper you cant leave? how do you know that you cant leave?
 
Mar 5, 2013
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prabz said:
Hello, I have also heard that you cant leave province I am in SASK too, but when you got your paper work did CIC mentioned it anywhere in paper you cant leave? how do you know that you cant leave?
@prabz

This is a reply given to me by one of this website's very well known VIP Member Leon I completely agree with his take on this situation. There is no document of CIC that says you have to live in SK till you get your Citizenship.


Leon said:
Do not get overexcited about rumours.

The truth is, there is no law or even immigration rule that says you must live in SK until you become a citizen or even for a certain amount of time after becoming a PR.

The PNP's would of course like it if you stayed because if everybody leaves after getting PR, it means they have wasted their time and money on processing your application.

However, I have not yet heard of a PNP going after a PR who left the province. If they ever start to, you can honestly say that all you signed was that you had intentions to live in SK after getting your PR and you did at the time you landed and therefore they can not say that you committed misrepresentation. After landing, intentions can change, a job may be lost and another opportunity comes up somewhere else.
 

prabz

Star Member
Feb 28, 2013
196
2
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
3-03-2012
Doc's Request.
5.4.2013
AOR Received.
15-03-2012
Med's Request
15-05-2012
Passport Req..
Waiting

lpit

Star Member
Oct 29, 2012
85
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Hi Friends:

I too have a similar situation.

I came to Canada as a PR under the AINP (Alberta immigrant nominee program) in May 2011.

Finished 2 years living in Alberta working on contracts in the Oil & Gas industry - was a struggle to break into this industry - since my work experience is heavily Retail - more than 6 years out of the 8 years total work experience

Now my contract has finished and I am really finding it tough to find another job in Oil & Gas.

However, I am getting great response from Toronto as GTA is the retail capital of Canada.

I did my research and found many articles written by lawyers saying that the PN program is heavily in favor of the provincial nominee as section 6 of Charter of Rights and Freedoms clearly grants mobility rights to Canadian citizens and persons with valid permanent resident status.

It also states that a PR can move also on the grounds of earning a livelihood.[/list]


unless there is any clause under IRPA - I think as PRs we can move to another province in search of livelihood rather than becoming a burden on the Canadian tax payers

I actually know a couple of friends who came under the Quebec Program and moved to Alberta in search of livelihood (within a year) and have filed for their citizenship applications in Alberta with no issues- so I don't see why they would treat Quebec nominated PRs any different from other provinces nominees?

Any more comments/observations?
 

verveiko

Hero Member
Aug 3, 2012
327
26
Vancouver, BC
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
6641
AOR Received.
24-09-2012
Med's Done....
15-10-2012
Passport Req..
08-03-2013
LANDED..........
29-03-2013
Guys, too many topics with same question. Section 6 of Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the answer.
 

lpit

Star Member
Oct 29, 2012
85
9
Guys,

before we make this sound like a forgone conclusion and slam dunk case I want to share a link that is very critical ....this forum does not allow me to paste links.

Can anyone show me a trick to paste this link?

I think we all should read this link carefully....and should discuss this...


Or else Google ...MOBILITY RIGHTS AND THE CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS Prepared by: Mollie Dunsmuir, Kristen Douglas Law and Government Division Reviewed 19 August 1998